Post Meeting Discussions - Page 5 - Pirates of the Caribbean Online Fansite & Forums

Tobias_Walker · #61 08-09-2009, 08:51 AM

This is not about fair I know Roxanna is fair...

Please...point me in the direction of the post prior to the meeting that it was established that Davy was going to have the floor...

All i see is a post by you...note i said YOU bringing up the topic of third party chat programs...

Pirate Bood · #62 08-09-2009, 08:58 AM

Tobias this is the motions before the court page.
http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12556

It may be useful for you to familiarise yourself with The Brethren Court forum.

The Pirata Codex of The Brethren Court.

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12547

Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

Tobias_Walker · #63 08-09-2009, 09:00 AM

Nice links...but none of them point to anything saying DAVY a non brethren court guild would have the floor...

Thanks for proving my point

Quote:

Tobias I am reminding you to keep this from being personal.
The Brethren Court Chair and Founder Roxanna who is leads the court by example granted permission for Davey to speak and it was appropriately motioned PRIOR to the meeting on the TBC forum here on POF.

In case your really missing the point...you said it was established prior to the meeting that DAVY was to be having the floor at TBC meeting

Dhestroyer · #64 08-09-2009, 09:06 AM

Wow
People don't you think this is getting way out of hand and way too serious? This is just a game we are talking about here. Not life and death. Look as I stated before ... the guilds that use team speak will continue to do so.

Period.

There is no way you or Disney can stop them. Yes it would be nice if everyone was on the same playing field, but lets face it ... that is a dream and not reality. Not in games nor in real life. There are always the haves and have nots. Me personally I do not care whether they use it or not. I can sink them just as easily as non voice chatters. I only care about the game TOS rules and that all pirates play fair. Yes you cannot mention team speak, xfire or what ever Voice chat you are using in the game. The reason is to protect the kids on the game and your privacy. If you mention it or try to give that information to another player while in game you run the risk of being banned. So be forewarned on that.

If you choose to use it that is your personal choice. I will not ever use it. I think personally that it is an advantage over others. And this isn't just because I don't use it. I am thinking of those who can't use the program for issues of a personal nature like the financial cost, computer connections, hearing impaired or even people with speech handicaps. So since we all agree that people will use it can we just move on... the original issue was I believe the crewing problem in a svs contest.

Now I have a Solution ---

to the debate of the Tuesday crewing problem ....

1. Let the captains crew their crew...
2. Have the captains FRIEND the observers/judges so they can tp to the ships
3. Give the instructions to EVERYONE present..
4. Have an observer/judge for each side
5. Crew the Observers/judge together and they can relay info to EVERYONE via privateer chat

on point 3 I think it would be better to tell everyone the rules... I had 4 peeps whispering me wanting to know what was going on while the rules were given and ships assigned -- that made it extremely difficult for me to follow what was being said in crew, between the whispers and beach chatter the chat scrolled too fast. Now you will have people spamming the beach rule chat -- Solution -- if they speak before the rules are completely given out --- disqualify them from the competition. Also after the rules are delivered allow a question and answer period for clarification purposes.

simple eh?

Pirate Bood · #65 08-09-2009, 09:17 AM

AT last some one not caught up in the fear of the violation trap to offer a real solution to the event issue.
TY Dhestroyer and thankyou for keeping with the thread throughout.

Maya

Tobias_Walker · #66 08-09-2009, 09:32 AM

hmmm so no comment on my pointing out what you said...aruguing against me...and the references you so readily supplied..

Also nothing against D but tuesdays svs event is not a Bretheren Courth Event...at least not yet...

Dhestroyer · #67 08-09-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias_Walker

hmmm so no comment on my pointing out what you said...aruguing against me...and the references you so readily supplied..

Also nothing against D but tuesdays svs event is not a Bretheren Courth Event...at least not yet...

Thank you for pointing that out Tobias, I did know that, but I also know that the crewing situation is what started this whole topic on use of voice chats vs those that didn't have it and The Bretheren Courts' stance on the issue for its events. ... I am just offering a level headed solution to an escalating issue. I not a member of the BC... at least not yet ... I am really put off by all the drama and bickering going on within the BC when its purpose is suppose to be bringing people together. Perhaps if everyone would take a breath, step back and learn to bend a bit the BC may have a chance to make it.

Tobias_Walker · #68 08-09-2009, 10:37 AM

Hey D...like i said..nothing against your post...it was well thought out...and well prepared...

I do appreciate that...

Pirate Bood · #69 08-09-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias_Walker

Nice links...but none of them point to anything saying DAVY a non brethren court guild would have the floor...

Thanks for proving my point

In case your really missing the point...you said it was established prior to the meeting that DAVY was to be having the floor at TBC meeting

I did already answer this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate Bood

The Brethren Court Chair and Founder Roxanna who is leads the court by example granted permission for Davey to speak and it was appropriately motioned PRIOR to the meeting on the TBC forum here on POF.
Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

The Motions page: http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12556

Might I also remind you that Roxanna, Commodore Zeke - Speaker of the Court, Ordo Skirata - Keeper of the Court and myself as a Keeper of the Court were all in attendance administrating proceedings along with a number of court referees, all those that took the floor were permitted to do so by the Chairmen Roxanna. And as mentioned previously the correct proceedure was followed. And the floor opened for discussion on the point.

This repeated asking me to clarify how Davey Burnrat was permitted to bring his point to TBC meeting is unecessary as I did answer you initially on the subject.
Should you have any further concerns I suggest you motion them on here or approach the subject with the other administrators in attendance and Roxanna herself.

Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

Tobias_Walker · #70 08-10-2009, 07:08 AM

Thanks maya a link that dont work...Error 404 and if youll check the records Davy applied to be a member of the court with his new guild sunday at 440 something on Sunday August 9th

Not prior to the meeting in which he was allowed to speak...

So keep quoting...facts that dont exist....

***The Skirata Clan*** · #71 08-10-2009, 07:46 AM

All guilds members or not are allowed to participate in the events and meetings. If they asked for the floor and if this is granted then they can bring their concerns/issues to the meetings. However their vote on things is not taken into consideration. Just like this sub-forum and its threads everyone is welcomed to participate. In fact, I want to think that it is encouraged. At least I do. I am happy to see all of the points and views in this particular topic. Thanks to this I have a more informed view on this issue. With that said, I still believe that it is the choice of each and everyone here to use or not use such programs at whatever risk that might exist. Just like its a choice to participate or not in events that might involve their use. That is my particular view.

The Courts views on this topic can be viewed in other threads of this sub-forum. Even though Maya's link doesn't work, the thread is there for everyone to see. Thanks for all the views on this matter.

Kate Keelmorgan · #72 08-10-2009, 10:12 AM

I would like to invite anyone who thinks that using a voice chat gives an unfair advantage to board a ship with a crew using it and see how much of an advantage it truely gives. I know from experience that the boats that I'm on with all of us using it get sunk all the time and very frequently.

**Bartholomew Foulsteel** · #73 08-11-2009, 12:02 AM

Okay mates, I just got off the phone with a Disney rep. Guess what.

Yep. HE stated that use of ANY third party program--to include VOIP programs like X-Fire, Teamspeak, or Ventrilo--was a violation of the TOS and would result in a ban if discovered. He stated that they "discover" the use of VOIP in-game when people pass VOIP info to each other in-game.

He also stated the reason VOIP isn't permitted is because it allows users to bypass the disney chat filters they have put in place AND upgraded recently.

Now, as I stated before, there is a reason behind the rule. It doesn't matter how long VOIP has been around. It doesn't matter how long others have used it or in what other games. The rep I talked to very specifically said that in Disney's POTCO there is NO allowed 3rd party programs used in game that allow people to bypass the chat filters.

So, perhaps I was correct when I wrote earlier that it depends on who is being asked on any particular day? I would caution SAFETY over CONVENIENCE.

***The Skirata Clan*** · #74 08-17-2009, 08:38 PM

Can someone please post what happened last meeting please I was out of town and I want to know what happened, including why was Maya removed from her position and why I wasn't asked my input in that matter.

Roxy Redcrow · #75 08-17-2009, 08:58 PM

My apologies for not replying earlier me buckos.

I have been super busy these passed few days but realize several folks were missing from last weeks meeting.

I will be posting a post meeting summary shortly as well as to the reasons why Maya was removed from Steering Committee. It was a decision that was made after careful consideration, and will be addressed in my summary.

Thanks mateys!
Roxy