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08-07-2009, 11:34 PM
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Hello Bart, no it wasnt direct to you, I dont believe we have met, hope to meet you soon at a TBC meeting/event. Have a great day
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08-07-2009, 11:34 PM
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Team Speak is accessible for anyone to use. If they aren't using it already, they use Xfire. I am aware of about 10 pirates who are on Brothren Court that use Xfire. Which Xfire also falls under Destroyer's quoted rules. Further more I would like to add that we have never hidden the fact we use Team Speak (no dishonesty/deception) I think we can safely say it has not escaped anyones observation. I say we are organized. We use this program to be a team and to work as one, to be united. Isn't that what we all aim for as a goal in our guilds. Rather than putting guilds down for doing so, how about applauding them for putting forth an effort to be a team. When Black Shark Inc launches their ship... we may be 9 pirates on a ship, but we sail as one. Last edited by Sarah; 08-07-2009 at 11:47 PM.. Reason: flaming/naming names |
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08-07-2009, 11:52 PM
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I just spoke with Disney myself so I could pass their info on to my mates, the disney rep said no one has ever been banned for using voice programs, it is not allowed to be talked about in chat and that you can get banned for. I also asked him to be sure and ask his supervisor for me, and again told me his supervisor said the same. Good to know for those who use it. See ya on the sea arrrr.
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08-08-2009, 06:18 AM
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TY Dhestroyer, for this post, a lot do take risks with rules and lead others to do so unaware of the possible consequences, it is not for us to 'presume' the specifics on the disney rules.
What we do know from sorry experience is that some have lost their accounts for use of other programmes uttering reference to places where to access them in the game. It is my understanding that leading anyone from pirates to a site where outside contact can be made has been for more than one person who has played pirates a reason for reprimand, both in warning and in termination. It makes sense therefore that we should adhere to the rules Disney set out, we know why they are in place, most would agree that in a game where a lot of younger players interact with adults that these measures are there for good reason. If you do not agree with the disney rules or the straightforward interpretation of them, then take it up with disney instead of arguing that your view must be correct. Maya |
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08-08-2009, 06:27 AM
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but your "rep" asked his supervisor? is this supervisor in charge of Disney policy? Not sure ... I wouldn't bet my membership on it ... as for sailing as a team my guild uses the chat supplied by Disney and my guild sails as a team. Of course as mentioned above how would Disney know .... can it be stopped... no idea but this game is Disney's and we should be playing by their rules as we agreed to in the terms of use not how we intrepid said rules. The rules are there to protect not just children but your privacy. And unlike what is stated in the POTC movie ... these rules are not just guidelines. |
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08-08-2009, 06:44 AM
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08-08-2009, 07:53 AM
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Here's a thought... Why not make crews with different members of different guilds? That way we all have to type to communicate with your crew members and teams. It could also help as a way to learn how to trust those sailing with you.
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08-08-2009, 09:56 AM
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But to be fair we all excel with our own crews, each one gelling and sailing with its own techniques and skill set. Events are not about splitting crew unity, nor about creating elite pirates via the use of streamline communications over people who effectively have non, its a fun event that shouldn't cause this much grief. I guess this is giving those who dont svs as regular as the svs guilds a sense of the divide we have here and if we cannot agree on a common mode of communication - and I strongly suggest that it IS the method as provided to us IN GAME by Disney then the events put on WILL NOT be fair and WILL NOT be supported by all, causing fractions in the BRETHREN. When Davy Burnrat put his question to the court on wednesday night it was a valid question and remains unresolved. In this case I too, coming from the perspective of the 'under dog' sought the reassurance from the court with regard to an issue which is right there in the protocol and rules of Disney as a big 'no no' so why this is even considered ok in ANY event is beyond me. BUT As a court we have to decide on whether its fair for those of us who are not prepared to break with Disney rules and protocol (whether that be for security reasons or for moral reasons) to be OBLIGED to, in order to keep up in these events add a talk programme, which as Roxanna has pointed out is entered into at our own risks. Quote:
Even in Eva jewel's post she points out that you CAN BE BANNED but has chosen to disregard the information as she is reassured by operator and superviser that no one has been banned for doing it, this is flouting the good nature of Disney with regard to a rule which was confirmed. I am not going to flout any such rule. The SVS Team event in NO WAY reflected how we sail normally in svs. In real pirate times a captain was NOT isolated from communicating with his crew: nor in the DISNEY game Pirates Of The Caribbean are we expected to not have crew talk. But the very fact that we were on tuesday night throws light on an issue that DOES need to be addressed. Or it will jeopardise the integrity of the unity in the Brethren Court. That is not to say that this issue cannot be overcome, I know it can but I can assure you there will be others, question is will the non svs guilds be as dedicated to talking through these issues before they get bored and stop attending the court sessions, I for one would hate to see that happen but with constant unrest like this - and I really do feel we walked STRAIGHT into this one I wouldnt blame anyone for saying this is getting to be too regular a theme in the court and bowing out. All bickering aside, I think we can be sure to look upon one thing as a positive from this, this fact is out in the open now and we can as a the Brethren Court and as SVSers see what we are facing day to day and address common concerns. I hope for swift resolve. Maya Mara |
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HERE is a mighty good question, IF we as a court are prepared to ensure that all participating member guilds of the court UNGUILD members who do not respect the two members per guild per meet rule, AND are prepared to impose bans on GUILDS who do not actively enforce this expectation, WHAT are we as the Brethren Court going to do with guilds found to be in VIOLATION of Disney TOS? Whilst having more than two members per guild is indeed a violation of Brethren Court rules violations of DISNEY rules far exceed our self imposed etiquette based rules. Just a concern that concerns all, Maya |
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08-08-2009, 03:01 PM
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VoIP Clarification
Pardon me for interrupting but I don't think everyone understands what Eva and JDAnne have stated from their calls to Disney Support.
Disney does not have a policy against USING VoIP programs such as TeamSpeak, XFire, or Ventrillo. Disney does, however, have a policy against TALKING about above programs (with the POTCO chat medium) in regards to sharing usernames, server info, etc. Again, Disney does not have a problem with players using it. They cannot control your use of it nor can they track it. They do have a problem with players chatting in their game about it when the discussion could lead to exposing another player's personal information and possibly creating a liability for Disney themselves. Thank you, and the thread is all yours again. * Not a Representative of Disney; Your Mileage May Vary
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08-08-2009, 03:58 PM
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Thank you Mr. Niscadae. That is exactly what I wanted to hear. Many guilds have this sort of communication. Some require it to join. I have never used them, mainly because the few members that pop in once in a while play in different time zones. So I see no point to it. I trust my skills enough to be able to handle both typing and sailing. I think as the saying says "Smoke'em if you have'em." If there is nothing Disney can do about the issue. What can any of us do really? How can we track this? I sense that this issue comes back to guilds not liking/trusting each other. Because honestly if I could have more members at the same time I would definitely get a program as those mentioned. I personally don't care about who uses them or who doesn't. I see both the good points and the bad points. If Disney is OK with it then I'm OK with it. Thus The Court should be OK with it.
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I know one person who got 3 day suspension for just saying Ventrilo, and I personally got a 3 day once for trying to help someone get Vent working, by telling them to go to YIM to talk to me. I didn't give out personal info, I just told them to go to Yahoo Instant Messenger. The nice little message I got from Disney when they told me I was suspended included a single line of chat, the one telling someone to go to YIM so I could talk to them.
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