If you could have any new set of ships in POTCO what would they

[toanuju22]

Originally Posted by wmah

I want a black pearl look alike ship. It doesn't have to be the same color, it only needs to be the same size and look. After all those BB we should at least be able to use the pearl but we can't have a hundred thousands black pearls sailing around so when we do finish the pearl quest why not give us a ship that is the same size and look.

i mentioned a east indiaman, they are the type of ship the black pearl is

Originally Posted by Dan_OB

Something I've always wanted is instead of having lite, reg and war classes of the 3 ship types like they have now have 3 ship types: 1. Fast ships (sloop), 2. Cargo ships (Gallon) and Fighter ships (Frigate). The way it would work is 3 Historical ships in each of these classes.

For example in the Cargo class you might have:
1. Fleut (replacing lite gallon)
2. Gallon (replacing reg Gallon)
3. Indiaman (Replacing War Gallon)

Fighter Class:
!. Brigantine
2. Frigate
3. Man o War or Ship of the line

Fast Ships
1. Sloop
2. Brig Sloop
3 Schooner.

I'm guessing a lot here and probably don't have many of the types right (or the periods), but you get the idea.

I agree with Zep we don't need stronger ships. But having more types of ships with some historical accuracy would be nice.

here is how the order could go

war ships:

East Indiaman
Ship Of The Line
Vasa
Frigate

Cargo Ships :
Fulte
Galleon
East Indiaman
Galley
Schooner

high speed sailing ships

East Indiaman ( Black pearl is the fastest ship in the Caribbean and East Indiamans were as fast as frigates so they go in here as well)
Xebec
Brigantine
Brig
Cutter
Frigate ( these ships were very fast)
Sloop
Schooner

Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could in scene war ships were actually slow except for the Frigate and East indiaman

[Dr. Zeppers]

Personally, 'historically' accurate is not a concern of mine.
Nor do I see it as a factor for developers.

It is a fantasy/movie world after all, full of voodoo magic, etc.

This is one of the reasons I find requests for realism, or historical accuracy humorous, its not a realistic world.

Would be nice to have 9 different ship types to choose from though instead of light, regular, and war classes of the same 3.

[Stephen O'Malley]

I put down other because I would like to see an Asian Sloop, much like we see Jack's crew sail in the last movie. It would have 10 broadsides, 8 cannons, 12 cargo room, and it would be the fastest of all the ships.

[toanuju22]

Originally Posted by truffleboy2894

I put down other because I would like to see an Asian Sloop, much like we see Jack's crew sail in the last movie. It would have 10 broadsides, 8 cannons, 12 cargo room, and it would be the fastest of all the ships.

well asian junk sloop really

and nice choice

[Dan_OB]

Originally Posted by toanuju22

i mentioned a east indiaman, they are the type of ship the black pearl is

here is how the order could go

....

Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could in scene war ships were actually slow except for the Frigate and East indiaman

In ship design there are trade offs. If you want a ship that hauls a lot of cargo you are going to sacrifice speed, like the gallon. If you want speed you are going to sacrifice cargo capacity like the sloops. If you want a fighting ship you are going to want armor and cannons, which will slow the ship down and limit cargo space. So while a frigate maybe fast for a war ship and faster then most cargo ships it is not going to be as fast as a sloop or schooner.

Yes, many ship types served multi-purposes but what I was going for was to have 3 different ship designs in each class that best fit into these catagories:

Fast ships: Ships designed for speed and manuverability. less armor and cargo space like the sloops in the game. Frigates maybe fast for warships but not in the same league as sloops, schooners and such

War ships: Ships designed to fight. lots of armor, lots of guns, like the frigate in the game. Some clarification here; A ship of the line is not a ship design but rather describes the biggest most powerful ships available. The real life man o' war was a ship of the line. Frigates where smaller. Vasa is the name of a particular ship, not a class of ships.

Cargo ships: Like the galleon in the game able to carry large amounts of cargo but slow, less maneuverable and limited in fire power. The East Indiaman was primarily used by The East India Trading company to haul cargo. It's use as a warship was limited and there is no way it would be ranked above a MOW as a warship, so it fits here. And it maybe fast compared to other cargo ships and many war ships but not compared to sloops, schooners, cutters and the like. The Flute or Fluyt, on average was smaller then the galleon. The Indiaman was larger then both.

Smooth Sailing!

[Jack Sunskull]

It would be nice to see a new ship or two, customization would great as well. There is no point right now to add more cargo space if most people are maxed on gold, unless we see a nice increase in gold soon.

[Davy Keelhawk]

i would like a barque, it was able to outmaneuver a schooner and was used as a cargo ship.
other than that, ship of the line

[toanuju22]

Originally Posted by Dan_OB

In ship design there are trade offs. If you want a ship that hauls a lot of cargo you are going to sacrifice speed, like the gallon. If you want speed you are going to sacrifice cargo capacity like the sloops. If you want a fighting ship you are going to want armor and cannons, which will slow the ship down and limit cargo space. So while a frigate maybe fast for a war ship and faster then most cargo ships it is not going to be as fast as a sloop or schooner.

Yes, many ship types served multi-purposes but what I was going for was to have 3 different ship designs in each class that best fit into these catagories:

Fast ships: Ships designed for speed and manuverability. less armor and cargo space like the sloops in the game. Frigates maybe fast for warships but not in the same league as sloops, schooners and such

War ships: Ships designed to fight. lots of armor, lots of guns, like the frigate in the game. Some clarification here; A ship of the line is not a ship design but rather describes the biggest most powerful ships available. The real life man o' war was a ship of the line. Frigates where smaller. Vasa is the name of a particular ship, not a class of ships.

Cargo ships: Like the galleon in the game able to carry large amounts of cargo but slow, less maneuverable and limited in fire power. The East Indiaman was primarily used by The East India Trading company to haul cargo. It's use as a warship was limited and there is no way it would be ranked above a MOW as a warship, so it fits here. And it maybe fast compared to other cargo ships and many war ships but not compared to sloops, schooners, cutters and the like. The Flute or Fluyt, on average was smaller then the galleon. The Indiaman was larger then both.

Smooth Sailing!

ok i read up and mostly i was right however in my last post
i thought by fast ships you meant ships the were considered fast for their size

so in a re order of my last post


War Ships;
Ship Of The Line/Man-o-War
Vasa ( i check online and found it was a galleon of the line )
Frigate

Cargo Ships;
Galleon
Flute ( i also checked on this ship , even though it is smaller than a galleon ,
it could hold more cargo and sail quicker than a galleon
East Indiaman ( checking online as well for this and found that
yes East Indiamen did hold very much cargo they were not at all slow when considering cargo ships and had a speed that of only a few knots slower than a Frigate while some East Indiamen actuall held more cannons than Friagtes

Fast Ships
Sloop
Brig
Xebec ( the common Barbary Korsair ship these were incredibly fast ,maneuverable and held a good amount of cargo, however when the British navy tried a experiment with a Xebec in the Atlantic the results were very surprising,
so the British navy built about 16 Xebecs and put them into service )


and in my last post i, i revised the ending of it



Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could and as inexpensively as possible , in scene war ships ( Such as a Man-o-War ) were much slower than a East Indiaman or flute, though there were some war ships like the Frigate that were faster but only by a few knots when compared with a East Indiaman.

[toanuju22]

Originally Posted by Davy Keelhawk

i would like a barque, it was able to outmaneuver a schooner and was used as a cargo ship.
other than that, ship of the line

Well i didn't put a Braque in the list, cause when i checked it on wiki i couldn't find out how many cannons it had so if you know a page where it says " a certain number of cannons on a barque" ill put the ship on the list.

[prince5654]

Hey speaking of ships, I thought Galleons were supposed to look like this: http://www.oceantreasures.org/docs/galleon2.jpg not this: http://images2.*****.nocookie.net/pi...ar_Galleon.jpg

[toanuju22]

Originally Posted by prince5654

Hey speaking of ships, I thought Galleons were supposed to look like this: http://www.oceantreasures.org/docs/galleon2.jpg not this: http://images2.*****.nocookie.net/pi...ar_Galleon.jpg

Isn't that the awful truth of POTCO , really the Galleons in the game look like
Man-o-Wars , and their just as slow as them too.
As well as Frigates look like Galleons , and real frigates have a hull similar to that of a sloops.

[Captain Whale]

I would like to see some new ship designs as well as have basic customization. Hull and sail colorization would go a long way to help differentiate our ships.
What I would really like to have is a flag! A customizable pirate flag either off the rear of the ship or at the top mast. The cutter and Schooner designs would be welcome and they differ greatly from what we have. It would also be nice to have a guild tag of some sort on the ships as well.

Captain Whale