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Old 09-24-2010, 05:47 AM
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Aye, Jack and Barbossa are my favorites. Love their personalities.
Davy is my favorite villain as of now for I like his story. But I think Blackbeard might be a new favorite, especially if he is as cruel as he sounds. I love the baddies!

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Old 09-24-2010, 06:28 AM
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Jack is a funny character with a nice personality. Hector is one you'd like in At World's End... He also played a nice villain in the first one.

Lord Beckett is my favourite villain of the series. This is because he overpowered even Davy Jones, by his various manipulating tactics. There are other villains in the prequels that are also good: the Shadow Lord, Hernando Cortes, Captain Torrents, Villuenelva (he's a villain for one book), King Samuel of Libertalia, Madame Minuit, etc. I hope they all come to PotCo soon! XD
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:39 AM
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I myself will do the wait and see. It is kind of bad that a few of the main characters have been removed from the new movie and new ones added. My only possible issue is using a character from history because well... the truth is about black beard is pretty intense without fictionalizing it... As for all the movies as a whole I love the way Jack is reinvented in all the movies... He is slightly different in every movie and it really shows the quality and versatility of Depps work. I have read a lot of pirate history as I am sure many of you have and it amazes me how many little bits and pieces are added to his character making for great story telling.

I really can not imagine missing any POTC movie that comes out because I feel that in a time when most movies that are made seem to be remakes of previous works or very poor reproductions of video games, POTC represents a true original in story telling done with a fantastic elaborate set and attention to detail. I have seen a lot of pirate movies and none can measure to it in my opinion. They kind of did a good job I think in closing things out with the last movie and there are rumors that some really bad stuff had gone on to **** of actors and crew which probably is why they dropped a few characters. All-in-all I really cant wait to see where they take it good or bad. After all, where else will see and here the roar of cannons and the large billowing sail? Its the only game in town for us fans.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:10 AM
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Um... read the the Pirates of the Caribbean Encyclopedia (*****)... It clearly states that Queen Anne's Revenge's flag that you saw, was actually Eduardo Villuenelva's flag. Go to Edward Teach's page on that ***** and see for yourself. They are reliable sources and their source is from "The Secret Files of the East India Trading Company". See it and then come 'n tell me savvy?
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Both flags are in. Not just Villanueva. And keep in mind that all sorts of wikis are editable and have no facts or citations to support their info... And I read that page. And it has so many fake info in it. Like Teach's daughter and him rescuing his ship.
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What do you mean Teach's daughter is fake? She's one of the leading characters for the 4th film, check on ANY site. The part in his background where it talks about him escaping with his daughter Angelica is not intended as a historical fact. I just went to one of the talk pages on that wiki (Edward Teach, PotC4 or something else).. where my fellow users there (yes I'm one of the users) were discussing about the same thing. They gave these two comparisons:
*In real life, Edward Teach had 14 wives
*In the Pirates series Edward Teach has 14 wives and one daughter.
I don't get what "rescuing his ship" you're talking about, so please tell me (sorry)
Anyway, I'll just consult a few people on it, but I'm pretty sure that the reference would be to either "The Secret Files of the East India Trading Company" OR "Pirates of the Caribbean:The Complete Visual Guide". But what makes YOU so certain that Blackbeard came in the third film? The story about OST is that Ed and his daughter has been hiding in the Inlet for many years (or a few) and now want to come out to find the Fountain of Youth, as I have read in some sites.
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What do you mean Teach's daughter is fake? She's one of the leading characters for the 4th film, check on ANY site. The part in his background where it talks about him escaping with his daughter Angelica is not intended as a historical fact. I just went to one of the talk pages on that wiki (Edward Teach, PotC4 or something else).. where my fellow users there (yes I'm one of the users) were discussing about the same thing. They gave these two comparisons:
*In real life, Edward Teach had 14 wives
*In the Pirates series Edward Teach has 14 wives and one daughter.
Precisely my point. They are taking a Real Pirate and just nonchalantly changing his history. They are just rewriting someone history. That is what I meant about fictitious characters and how great job POTC did by not including any real pirates. He was married once. Before going back to piracy. I have done research about the life of Blackbeard. Imagine if they included George Washington's Evil Twin Emil Washington.

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I don't get what "rescuing his ship" you're talking about, so please tell me (sorry)
Anyway, I'll just consult a few people on it, but I'm pretty sure that the reference would be to either "The Secret Files of the East India Trading Company" OR "Pirates of the Caribbean:The Complete Visual Guide". But what makes YOU so certain that Blackbeard came in the third film? The story about OST is that Ed and his daughter has been hiding in the Inlet for many years (or a few) and now want to come out to find the Fountain of Youth, as I have read in some sites.
You are obviously talking about fiction I am definitely not. I am talking about facts.

And his flag is in the 3rd film. Don't believe me? Then just go watch it. They used real pirate flags.
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:06 AM
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Precisely my point. They are taking a Real Pirate and just nonchalantly changing his history. They are just rewriting someone history. That is what I meant about fictitious characters and how great job POTC did by not including any real pirates. He was married once. Before going back to piracy. I have done research about the life of Blackbeard. Imagine if they included George Washington's Evil Twin Emil Washington.
So with me being an editor there, I thought I;ll ask you because of your statement. Should the mentioned story about his daughter Angelica come under a title Fictional History?

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You are obviously talking about fiction I am definitely not. I am talking about facts.

And his flag is in the 3rd film. Don't believe me? Then just go watch it. They used real pirate flags.
Yes. What I meant was that in the 3rd movie, the flag which we saw of Blackbeard's was actually that of Eduardo Villuenelva. I remember seeing a section that when this flags' scene appeared in the trailer, many users claimed that Blackbeard was coming to the movie, and the section said, "However this was revealed to be Villuenelva's flag". Okay now I did not tell you this: A user on that same site gave me the ORIGINAL script for PotC3 by uploading it for a day. In that very script, Blackbeard and Anne Bonny DO appear as Pirate Lords. But this idea was scrapped as they probably wanted to do something with them in Future. Blackbeard in this script starts a fight with Capitaine Chevalle because the latter had given Lord Beckett his piece of eight years ago in a game of... well some Chinese game. And Teach was removed from the script. Again as I said, Teach's fictional background story was that he was in hiding during Lord Beckett's
War Against Piracy. Then how could he come during AWE? He was in hiding because he was old. And again as I said, the fact that Teach's flag that we saw was actually Villuenelva's flag, is taken from one of the two books I mentioned. BUT I will have confirm about this with a user, and I will get back to you on that okay? BUT again, both of us will have to wait for the 4th movie for an official confirmation on his background (i.e, if he mentions anything about hiding or his involvement in the War)

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I just hought of this for no real reason, but isn't Barboss technically in all of them?
 

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