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Old 11-15-2008, 06:17 PM
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PVP guide

I may not be the best at PVP, but I do not quite alot about it, so heres some helpful tips about what you can do in PVP, thanks in advance for replies/comments!
STARTING A PVP

Go to a friend, anyone, and you can say something like "Hey wanna PVP?" You can then either gather a crew, or go 1 on 1, doesnt matter. If you wish to fight with a crew, then the crew leader must crew them. After all crews are assembled, then you can click on that person, and click Crew battle say yes when it says "Are you sure you want to invite so and so to a Crew battle, the rest of your crew will also be invites"

RULES OF PVP

Play fair in PVP. Unless agreed to not use rules, these are the basic rules of PVP
1.No tonics- If you use tonics, then its not a fair PVP. Suppose the one you are fighting doesnt have tonics, its not fair to them
2. No dolls- Using a doll just completely takes the fun out of PVP. Attuning someone, and running and attacking isnt fair, and is no fun at all, basically ruins PVP
3.No grenades Unless the 2 people both have grenades, I would strongly suggest not using grenades, it makes it unfair to the one who doesnt have grenades
4.(occasionaly) No pistol Some pistols are stronger than others, this is a rule that could be used.

USING A CUTLASS IN PVP

Most of the time in PVP, you wanna use a sword, ill start off with the cutlass
-Approach your enemy, cutlass out
-Jump past them so they cant attack you (if you have lots of lag, I wouldn't do this)
- do the Quick blade storm attack (blade storm attack, press esc immediately after)
- if you have taunt, use it now
- press your attack!!
- Finish them off!!
- *Remember to time your attacks to do combos*

USING A DAGGER IN PVP

-Approach your enemy, dagger out
-Throw a venom blade at them
-Throw dirt at them
-Press your attack while they cant see!
- Do some combos
-Finish them off!!

USING A PISTOL IN PVP (if allowed)

-Start off by using venom shot
-Do most damage by using take aim, with lead shot
-If they are using a sword, use bane shot to weaken their attacks
-Try to shoot them on the move, while moving, if they are using a cutlass (use W+E to run faster, character will look to their left while you do this)
-Finish them off!!

(rare) USING A STAFF IN PVP

-Of course, you have to approach your enemy if you are using a staff
-Start off by using pesticle to poison your rnemy
-Depending on what they are using, use fire. If they are using a sword, use wither as much as you can
-Keep on attacking, use express desolation if you get the chance (How to use express desolation can be found here )
-Finish them off by using wither!!

(if allowed) USING GRENADES IN PVP

-start off using siege charge, if you have it, if not, use stink pot, or your most powerful grenade
-As they approach you, depending on which weapon they are using, slowly back away
- Before you switch weapons, use smoke at least once ( I would suggest switching to dagger, use smoke, then throw dirt, they wont stand a chance!)
-Finish them off!

Opponent: Cutlass
To get off a good shot without running, you can hold a better cutlass: packing points in Brawl gives you a good shot, and, in general, so does doing more damage (quick Blade Storm trick and all, Curse, etc.); you can, somehow or another, freeze your opponent in place (Brawl or Shackles) and then attack with the dagger; you can, if you have distance, get a lead on them with the pistol or grenades in health; and, to minimize damage while taking out alot, you can use the staff, Wither being the weapon of choice.
If they have a tendancy to brawl you into submission, I'd suggest either a) running using the non-keypad controls to run and shoot with the pistol, b) running and tapping with the Doll (w/ or without Grave Shackles to help get a lead off), or c) making sure you get a good brawl off first.

Opponent: Pistol
If they run sidelong and take a multitude of non-Hex-eater potshots, I'd try the Staff and Flaming Skull. If you can get them attuned, it's easier to take them down with the doll; quick reloads with the dagger can be of use, so I guess multiple throws can do the trick; lastly, a large-radius grenade may be powerful enough to do it.
If they stay in place, and use Take Aim, there's a good chance you can outdistance them without them getting that shot off (as they walk slow while aiming). Grenades, I'd say, are the weapon for that.

Opponent: Doll
This really depends on the distance, and how good your opponent is at running. Unless your opponent isn't so good at doing that, the dagger with the doll-wrecking options I'd say is the way to go. Asp can do its job with one point, especially having the faster reload. Running the other way can sometimes do the trick, and should you have the aim, grenades and the pistol may work. As well, if you have the range, you can have the staff and the skull do it.

Opponent: Dagger
If they just use the dagger as a hand to hand weapon, use the staff or cutlass, whichever allows you to outdamage them. If they use it as a doll-counterer, STOP USING THE DOLL! If they use it in some weird combination of weapons that allows them to Backstrike you, run and use the pistol or dagger throws, anything allowing you to be mobile. If they run and use throws, try using the pistol (if it helps), dagger throws, grenades or staff (Flaming Skull).

Opponent: Grenades
At distance, the long way the travel should allow you to dogde. Do something, isn't so hard. If they use something like one-hit kill grenades (if still possible), use the Dagger and the interrupt skills. If possible, try to lock them in place, Brawl or Grave Shackles or whatever, and attack their back. The Doll can get them provided their aim is anything below extraordinary, and running with the Pistol can get them too.

Opponent: Staff
Hex-eater can do it, grenades can do it (the time charging allows you for some good distance), the dagger can do it in a specialized way, etc. Using the moves that stop them in their tracks, Brawl, Shackles, whatever, can do their job as well.


Hope this was helpful to people who struggle in PVP, good luck mates!

Last edited by Andrew; 11-22-2008 at 03:18 PM.. Reason: Added leagues "opponent" hints
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:54 PM
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Nice guide Andrew.

Just to help out those who have problems with people using dolls.....there are a few ways to deal with this. The two methods I use are.....

1.running after them and attacking. This is difficult for some and I wouldn't suggest using this if you can't keep up with the other person. Simply just keep as close to the other person as you can and use combos with your sword or dagger.

2.breaking out the chains. This is very good against someone who won't quit using their doll. When given the chance attune the other person and chain them. After you do this run away so both attunements are broken. Then you can reattune them or fight however you like.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:15 PM
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When they run I use dagger.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:20 PM
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use stategy combine weapons
1. get a crew and use crew chat then organize a flaming skull barrage
2. max out grave shackles and siege charge then blast em to oblivion
3. if they use doll run in the opposite direction to try forcing them to un-attune if they notice and follow you use vipers nest on them
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:17 AM
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Team is slightly (and that's a slight-dilipidated slightly) different, and that might require a guide of it's own. Anywhoo, I have a counter-use guide:

Opponent: Cutlass
To get off a good shot without running, you can hold a better cutlass: packing points in Brawl gives you a good shot, and, in general, so does doing more damage (quick Blade Storm trick and all, Curse, etc.); you can, somehow or another, freeze your opponent in place (Brawl or Shackles) and then attack with the dagger; you can, if you have distance, get a lead on them with the pistol or grenades in health; and, to minimize damage while taking out alot, you can use the staff, Wither being the weapon of choice.
If they have a tendancy to brawl you into submission, I'd suggest either a) running using the non-keypad controls to run and shoot with the pistol, b) running and tapping with the Doll (w/ or without Grave Shackles to help get a lead off), or c) making sure you get a good brawl off first.

Opponent: Pistol
If they run sidelong and take a multitude of non-Hex-eater potshots, I'd try the Staff and Flaming Skull. If you can get them attuned, it's easier to take them down with the doll; quick reloads with the dagger can be of use, so I guess multiple throws can do the trick; lastly, a large-radius grenade may be powerful enough to do it.
If they stay in place, and use Take Aim, there's a good chance you can outdistance them without them getting that shot off (as they walk slow while aiming). Grenades, I'd say, are the weapon for that.

Opponent: Doll
This really depends on the distance, and how good your opponent is at running. Unless your opponent isn't so good at doing that, the dagger with the doll-wrecking options I'd say is the way to go. Asp can do its job with one point, especially having the faster reload. Running the other way can sometimes do the trick, and should you have the aim, grenades and the pistol may work. As well, if you have the range, you can have the staff and the skull do it.

Opponent: Dagger
If they just use the dagger as a hand to hand weapon, use the staff or cutlass, whichever allows you to outdamage them. If they use it as a doll-counterer, STOP USING THE DOLL! If they use it in some weird combination of weapons that allows them to Backstrike you, run and use the pistol or dagger throws, anything allowing you to be mobile. If they run and use throws, try using the pistol (if it helps), dagger throws, grenades or staff (Flaming Skull).

Opponent: Grenades
At distance, the long way the travel should allow you to dogde. Do something, isn't so hard. If they use something like one-hit kill grenades (if still possible), use the Dagger and the interrupt skills. If possible, try to lock them in place, Brawl or Grave Shackles or whatever, and attack their back. The Doll can get them provided their aim is anything below extraordinary, and running with the Pistol can get them too.

Opponent: Staff
Hex-eater can do it, grenades can do it (the time charging allows you for some good distance), the dagger can do it in a specialized way, etc. Using the moves that stop them in their tracks, Brawl, Shackles, whatever, can do their job as well.
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Thx for adding this league I should've added that in the guide
 


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