Worst weapon?

[the khan]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

When you get to level 12 that stops happening.
Sorry I can't believe that either from going to 1-11 in 2 days.
Yes if your on 24/7 but sorry that seems unlikely.
I think nades are horrible.
They take too long to level up.
One of my friends was very lucky when nade rep was good. He mastered it fast.

Kingshead is worthless for me now. If I use the nades on the navy(group of) then i get about 19 rep.
I can get 20 rep from other enemies one at a time which goes by faster. Now if there was a bigger group of nav, say high levels, then I would do that.

It pretty easy to get to level 11 in 2 days without intensive work. I would guess it took me about 4 hours to get there, and since I hadn't worked my pearl quest I didn't have rep problems until lvl 14 or 15.

[Scottish]

Grenades are the worst weapon by far. It would be better if you could just brawl with the enemy. Then you could have like "fist of fury" or "lightning punch" or "combo punch" as different things you could use.

Grenades are useless. Wouldn't bother me at all if they done away with them.

Just my opinion, you can take it for what it's worth!

[John Witherspoon]

Grenades are horrible mine are level nine... LOL nobody voted the staff

[greatertater]

I dont care for either but at least with the grenades you arent so dependent on others to level. To level the cannon you either have to glitch and park and shoot - park and shoot etc. or spend a LOT of time on somebody elses boat who is more interested in getting the perfect shot from broadsides than you taking out the enemy with fury because your there on board actually stealing their rep.

[Captain NightWolf]

Like everyone else seems to agree on, grenades are probably the worst of the lot in regards to weapons...once you pass a certain point on KH everyone for the most part becomes grey and rep points are abyssmal...

But if you look at the bigger picture grenades can still be somewhat useful...the stinkpot by far is the best IMO simply because you can attract quite the many enemies as we've all seen on KH...

Also once you hit that grey rep plateau get a bunch of friends together one two ships and have one board the Colossus Flagship while the other ship is on the opposite side of the Colossus with the crew happily grenading the Navy Officers...

I would still try to keep leveling the grenade simply because the skill points earned can be used in the passive skills to a much greater advantage...so if you see any enemies hit 'em with a grenade, then switch weapons if you'd like...sure you'll level up a bit more slowly but every rep point adds up in the end...

NW

[wronkowski]

yea kingshead is only good with some other people using any weapon or 1 or 2 other grenaders

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by greatertater

I dont care for either but at least with the grenades you arent so dependent on others to level. To level the cannon you either have to glitch and park and shoot - park and shoot etc. or spend a LOT of time on somebody elses boat who is more interested in getting the perfect shot from broadsides than you taking out the enemy with fury because your there on board actually stealing their rep.

When YOU incessantly rely on glitches, you affect the game for other people. Very detrimentally.

ROTFL. You glitch when trying to level up cannons? You silly pirate! You've no right to complain that you have to chase them! You break the game, then complain that it is broken? Why would you even think of that glitch as being helpful? Your glitch makes sailing be both time-consuming and unpleasant, but it makes cannons intolerable.

Are you one of those twits that can't aim at all, yet says that light sloops are hard to hit (they weren't before - and are very hard to miss now!)

You should be made to walk the plank!

[Hypothetacles]

It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.


Good luck and happy "nading."

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by Hypothetacles

It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.


Good luck and happy "nading."

Sorry, but I must disagree. When I fully mastered my pirate, I had to master 'nades - yes I maxed out most of the 'nade passives. The passives are a good thing about grenades, but that does not offset their numerous unpleasant qualities.

[Dr. Zeppers]

Originally Posted by Hypothetacles

It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

Sorry, but I must disagree. When I fully mastered my pirate, I had to master 'nades - yes I maxed out most of the 'nade passives. The passives are a good thing about grenades, but that does not offset their numerous unpleasant qualities.

The passive skills that come with nades are helpful. However if we are to take passive skills of each weapon into account as well in determining the "worst weapon", passives being the grenades only saving grace, would still not be enough.

So with that being said, I must agree with Edward.

As a weapon, taking passives into consideration, grenades are still the most useless (ie worst).
They 'could' be much more useful if scenarios where they were required were written into the game, but they are not.

[JadeMcHawk]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

Cannons are one of my favorite weapons as far as I can say.
But I can never level them up because i can't find a captain who wont sink my ship or a captain. It takes a while for me to level my cannon up.
I still don't have fury and i'm almost level 37.

Please don't feel you are alone. With an awesome guild member that handles a ship like a pro, I was lvl 38 before I got fury.

[Poison elf]

Who says grenades has no use, ha. They have one of my most favorite uses of all weapons.

Scenario: Kings with your 20 level character using grenades on the soldiers, a level 30 comes in with staff, and thinks he owns the place. Level 40 comes in and kills everything with one hit siege bomb. level 30 gets mad and leaves. Now I feel good I didn't chicken out and run from a rude player in the game to another server, drive a boat across the sea, and find someone already there on this server. I love watching everything on the screen drop dead from one siege bomb.

As for cannon, almost all the characters I had it max first. Glitching works against you with cannon. Soon as you can get it to level 12, put immediately 5 points in lightning, that point on there is no ship on the sea safe from loosing its sails and easy prey.

[akamystic]

I'd have to say grenades. I just can't find much to use them for.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

[Dr. Zeppers]

Originally Posted by Poison elf

Who says grenades has no use, ha. They have one of my most favorite uses of all weapons.

Scenario: Kings with your 20 level character using grenades on the soldiers, a level 30 comes in with staff, and thinks he owns the place. Level 40 comes in and kills everything with one hit siege bomb. level 30 gets mad and leaves. Now I feel good I didn't chicken out and run from a rude player in the game to another server, drive a boat across the sea, and find someone already there on this server. I love watching everything on the screen drop dead from one siege bomb.

Ok, perhaps, but no valid use in the game as its designed. Its still pretty useless.

Originally Posted by Poison elf

As for cannon, almost all the characters I had it max first. Glitching works against you with cannon. Soon as you can get it to level 12, put immediately 5 points in lightning, that point on there is no ship on the sea safe from loosing its sails and easy prey.

I would never put 5 points in lightning, seems like a waste. I have 3 now, and sink ships with a couple shots. I am a notorious cannoneer in BB's often being the sole super power on cannons.. hehe. Too each his own.

Putting the extra points in passives where they help lightning, and other skills instead of focusing on one I dont need any stronger.

Cannons is usually the LAST thing I master, because all my friends want me sailing most of the time.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers

Cannons is usually the LAST thing I master, because all my friends want me sailing most of the time.

I hear you there.
Although because my grenades are so low level I think I have no choice but to have them be my very last weapon I master.

As for grenades being useless.
The only way I think they can't be useless is when your almsot dead and you need something to kill an enemy fast.

Although life drain really helps too.