Suggestion for Adult Servers- LISTEN UP DISNEY GUYS!!! (lol)

[Jade Macmorrigan]

when they emailed me that survey about the game and i got to the part of "what can we do to make the game better"....gee what do you suppose i suggested? ..lol. i had to rewrite it 3 times because my little rant kept going over their 1000 word limit....hahahaha!

[Angel]

LOL I also added my 2 cents on that part

[DarkScarlett]

New terms and conditions release 5/6/2008

I read previous but to be honest speed read it cause its all usually the same stuff however since i did notice it coincided with update and was BOLD and in Red i read thru it it appears to me and only my opinion that they have loosened the leash a bit and if i amunderstanding correctly making statement that user account holder is fully liable for such & such about chat/conduct

this makes sense, so maybe they have decided to ease up because on the few occasions that i have been able to play in the past 2 days i have had an easier time chatting without the aarrrr and numbers and words that previously could not use , suddenly can

[Redfoote Vader]

First post as i just recently discovered this forum.

I agree, i'd like to see some 18 and above servers.

Can somebody answer a couple questions for me? A lot of my guild mates can type numbers and names that i can't. For example, a guild member named Blime comes online and other guild members can type "hello Blime" yet i'm not allowed to type Blime. A lot are allowed to say "i just got lvl 24" yet i'm not allowed to type any numbers or even type "thirty". I've also heard about how the + allows you to say more stuff, but i don't have the +, do i have a different interface or something? Is it because i created the account for my 9 year old son, then created my own pirate on his account so i could have unlimited access too? If so, can this be corrected so i'm not so censored?

Thanks everyone.

[Redfoote Vader]

I figured out how to get the plus sign for my chat, i can now type numbers and names i wasn't able to before, so everyone can go ahead and continue to disregard my first post.

[Angel]

As you said, you created the account with your 9 y/o in play. You have what we call "Child chat" turned on. It limits a lot of what can be said. You might want to check his pirate to make sure you didnt disable his "child chat". Most of us will look for that + sign in a whisper to see if they are a child or adult. No plus, also allows more things to come his way. He will be able to see all local chat!

[Redfoote Vader]

Thanks Angel.

That's what i figured out, since it is my childs account that has unlimited access, we both always signed in under his name, etc. Now when he plays he continues to sign in under his name (no plus sign for chat). When i play, i sign in under my adult account (basic), then access my pirate on his account (unlimited) and i have the plus sign in my chat. I didn't realize i could do that until yesterday. I now know it was an easy fix and probably a stupid question.

[Jade Macmorrigan]

*OK!* I copied this directly from their new terms of use they updated that Darkscarlet mentioned above...(that was updated in red). it's at the bottom of the main page at Pirates Online. Can't miss it. So what *I* wanna know is what do these two paragraphs mean?!?!?! Does this mean we can actually give out our email addresses now? "at our own risk"?? Or are we gonna get our butts sent to the penelty box like usual??? i wanna know but i don't want to get dropped for 3 days again and get strike #2...lol...i'm a trouble maker enough in reality! i suppose i could meaasage them and just ask them point blank.....hmmm.
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[Lucrecia Merlose]

The whole "wholesome nature" environment thing bugs me. The movie endorsed violence, raping (Swan and Sao Feng scene), alcohol, gambling, and so much adult material...and I'm sure I'm not the only one disturbed, confused, and perhaps a little amused by big D. I'm not saying kids should not be allowed to play this game since the game (and not the movie) is aimed at a preteen age group...but there should be some allowances given to their adult fans and an adult only server would be a breath of relief...because I don't want to get BANNED for saying "COD ****" even though in the movie Jack Sparrow said just that and a few more choice words.

[Lib Feathers]

Originally Posted by Lucrecia Merlose

The whole "wholesome nature" environment thing bugs me. The movie endorsed violence, raping (Swan and Sao Feng scene), alcohol, gambling, and so much adult material...and I'm sure I'm not the only one disturbed, confused, and perhaps a little amused by big D. I'm not saying kids should not be allowed to play this game since the game (and not the movie) is aimed at a preteen age group...but there should be some allowances given to their adult fans and an adult only server would be a breath of relief...because I don't want to get BANNED for saying "COD ****" even though in the movie Jack Sparrow said just that and a few more choice words.

My sentiments EXACTLY! It's CONFUSING!!! Wholesome? Disney? Drinking, murder, bad language? And yet we get our hands slapped for talking about the same things in the game - ! How are we supposed to follow the rules when it's impossible to understand what the rules are?

IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!

[strathound]

Originally Posted by DarkScarlett

I had an idea the other night they signify basic from unlimited by name plate colors i think they should devise a way to signify 18+ and if the ones lie about age or someone illegally verifies that for them they should have the liabilty

for the last week i have had all sorts of friend request and turned them down imediatly because i had found that a few of the friends i have were children - talking about adult themes to me but because of my suspicion and thier actions i just boldly came out and asked - if they were adult..... i got a few um ok bye whispers and then some were actually honest.

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point. Disney created this game to appeal to children that wouldn't find ToonTown very interesting. But they have to make these teens safe from online predators. Giving away the identity of the children in the game should be absolutely forbidden. The reason should be obvious. Everyone is so concerned about their own gameplay and their own wants that they are forgetting that there could be people within earshot that might not actually be there to play the game. They might be interested in something else.

I am a parent of two girls, both nine. We logon together and sail as a crew. They are sitting right next to me when the spamming of friend requests begins. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm half tempted to make them create male characters.

There are lots of other online options out there if you like MMOs. But I would support having adult servers. Absolutely. So long as I know what they are, we can avoid those easily.

The challenge, of course, is identifying the adults. You may think this may be easy (someone suggested that Disney, lol, PHONE CALL every person and verify over the phone that they are an adult). But that's absolutely ridiculous and naive. If you think a teenager can't spoof that, you'll believe anything.

Unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the only way this will happen is if Disney agrees to spend lots of money on a special program to certify the age of specific players. And, they need to make sure that an adult account can't simply be logged into by a minor. That part may indeed be impossible. The good news is that the technology and know-how to do this is out there, just in a place you might not think of ... the online porn industry. They are required by law to verify the age of people entering their sites (don't ask me how I know this). I believe they do it by sending a $1.00 charge to a credit card in the registered member's name. Something like that.

Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

Thanks,

Michael

[strathound]

Originally Posted by Angel

No plus, also allows more things to come his way. He will be able to see all local chat!

Can you explain this a bit more. I was going to start another thread asking about the Parental Controls. But you allude to something I was going to ask about. So I might as well ask here.

My daughter's account is linked to mine and I've turned on the parental controls. This means that she can only say things that are in the list of child approved words (forget what this is called). But my concern was that she would still be able to read what an unrestricted character is saying. Is that true? Or does it filter that for her as well (that'd be great).

Also, does anyone know if you can disable friend requests in the parental controls? I'd like to have manual control of that so I can turn it off completely 90% of the time and then only turn it back on when she tells me she has a friend from school or something that she wants to add. That would be great as well.

Michael

[Bella]

I can see both sides of the fence. I myself would like to play on an adult server.

However, creating an adult server is the easy part. The sickos would simply pretend to be a child and log onto their servers. So, the problem of the wierdos is NOT solved by adult servers.

Besides there are plenty of ways to circumvent the restrictions if a guild needs to. Believe me the Wenches have. It is called set up a vent server. Since figuring this out I see no reason why the restrictions should be changed or loosened. After all it is for the protection of OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSET OUR CHILDREN!!!!

Yes I am a parent. Sometimes I am glad my daughter cant read yet......

[Angel]

Originally Posted by strathound

Can you explain this a bit more. I was going to start another thread asking about the Parental Controls. But you allude to something I was going to ask about. So I might as well ask here.

My daughter's account is linked to mine and I've turned on the parental controls. This means that she can only say things that are in the list of child approved words (forget what this is called). But my concern was that she would still be able to read what an unrestricted character is saying. Is that true? Or does it filter that for her as well (that'd be great).

Also, does anyone know if you can disable friend requests in the parental controls? I'd like to have manual control of that so I can turn it off completely 90% of the time and then only turn it back on when she tells me she has a friend from school or something that she wants to add. That would be great as well.

Michael

If you have parental controls on the account, they are highly restricted to words in the dictionary. I strongly recommend this for youths due to the restrictions on their chat and if they use a word out of the dictionary, we get an Arrr. Unfortunately at this time I dont think theres a way to turn off Friends requests.

To answer your other question. If I say something in local and I dont have the + sign when I type it, she cant hear/see it. If we say it in local and have the plus sign, the chat is restricted to words in the dictionary and she will be able to see/read it. Crew chat and guild chat is different. They can see/read anything even with the + sign gone. (I need to double check on that but I think thats how it is).

[Lucrecia Merlose]

Originally Posted by strathound

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point....

I think most of us understand this is a game aimed for the youth. Personally that is not what I am focusing in on. Keeping in mind children may access the adult server for whatever reason, the parents should be made aware of this. How?

1. Have child/parent accounts joined.
2. Lock the parent toons so kids cannot gain access.
3. Do not share YOUR account login information with your children
4. Disney makes an option for parent accounts to lock children from adult servers and/or gives an alert to parent account when child account accesses adult server.

If a child makes a seperate account solely for the purpose of getting into adult servers then the parent is not supervising the childerens computer time efficiently.

I'm a parent too but my child is 4 years old and his only interest on the computer is on my lap at the Noggin website. I do sympathize with your concerns but there are easy methods to use in order to satisfy both sides of this issue.

As for online predators...we deal with them now...we will deal with them on adult servers. The answer is proper supervision and computer gameplay in moderation.

Originally Posted by strathound

....Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

I played WoW...I found it quite the task to find any adults...and if they all were adults they sure acted like loud mouthed teenagers. I never heard so much foul language, sexism, racism, and bigotry in an online game until I played WoW.

I for one am not wanting an adult server to condone such "WoW-esque" behavior but instead to offer an environment that feels very restricting to adults....giving out IM names, emails, or any identifying information. Not that I would do this with just anyone online...but perhaps if I persuade one of my longstanding MMO friends I do not wish to feel I must tiptoe around everything which I do not have to do in other MMOs.

That being said, the lack of an adult server would not make me leave POTCO...but it sure would be nice!