specialized pirates?

[Littlebell]

i was just wondering if anyone has tried to make a "specialized" pirate. i've seen others do similar things in other games; sometimes they call it being a "pure (name your skill)". i know from the Black Pearl quest that there are some things you have to do with a particular weapon, so you can't get around that and still complete the quest - and there's "the code" for guns. but what about these?

• blades
  specializing in swords and daggers
  easiest because you start with sword skill and can unlock dagger relatively early
• munitions
  specializing in guns and grenades
  not so easy because you have to "keep to the code" when it comes to EITC and Navy (and other pirates in PvP? haven't tried it)
• voodoo
  specializing in dolls and staffs
  hardest to get started since doll doesn't unlock until notoriety 10 (but see below)
• sailor
  specializing in sailing and cannon
  (obviously not "only" these, as you can't take out critters with cannon)

i was thinking it might be possible to do something weird like master fishing and potions to get started towards voodoo doll, and then try to master doll to reach level 30 and unlock staff. of course, once you'd master those, you'd probably want to (or need to) move on to something else to fully master the pirate.

has anyone though of, or tried (or accomplished?!) anything like that?

[Dark_Pixie]

I've seen lots of people try to specialise in one thing - I haven't done it myself, but I have seen many people who have, and succeeded.

# blades
specializing in swords and daggers
easiest because you start with sword skill and can unlock dagger relatively early

I often see PvP jumpers who are around level 30 and have already mastered those two skills - they're of the most use in PvP for jumpers than anything else.

munitions
specializing in guns and grenades
not so easy because you have to "keep to the code" when it comes to EITC and Navy (and other pirates in PvP? haven't tried it)

I haven't seen anyone do this before, and it does look quite difficult to achieve. I'm pretty sure someone's done it, but I haven't heard of it.

voodoo
specializing in dolls and staffs
hardest to get started since doll doesn't unlock until notoriety 10 (but see below)

A friend of mine tried this - it wasn't so hard, and she got her doll quickly, and simply used that the whole time she fought. Though she was deleted before she could get farther. I'm certain that many people have done this, and succeeded.

sailor
specializing in sailing and cannon
(obviously not "only" these, as you can't take out critters with cannon)

I've seen someone do this, and they were great. They got the skills mastered really quickly, while slowly leveling with the other things. It was amazing seeing a level 20 with such skill. :P I bet they do a lot of SvS now.

I haven't tried focusing on one or two skills for a pirate, mostly because I just can't be bothered. :P I've seen lots of people who focus on one or two skills at a time, and I find them utterly fascinating. The level 20 I was talking about was my favourite captain, and I tried to sail with them as often as I could.

If you want to see someone who focuses on dagger and sword, try Abassa Tortuga. The place is crawling with them.

[Ofury/ Tom]

Originally Posted by Littlebell

i was just wondering if anyone has tried to make a "specialized" pirate. i've seen others do similar things in other games; sometimes they call it being a "pure (name your skill)". i know from the Black Pearl quest that there are some things you have to do with a particular weapon, so you can't get around that and still complete the quest - and there's "the code" for guns. but what about these?

• blades
  specializing in swords and daggers
  easiest because you start with sword skill and can unlock dagger relatively early
• munitions
  specializing in guns and grenades
  not so easy because you have to "keep to the code" when it comes to EITC and Navy (and other pirates in PvP? haven't tried it)
• voodoo
  specializing in dolls and staffs
  hardest to get started since doll doesn't unlock until notoriety 10 (but see below)
• sailor
  specializing in sailing and cannon
  (obviously not "only" these, as you can't take out critters with cannon)

i was thinking it might be possible to do something weird like master fishing and potions to get started towards voodoo doll, and then try to master doll to reach level 30 and unlock staff. of course, once you'd master those, you'd probably want to (or need to) move on to something else to fully master the pirate.

has anyone though of, or tried (or accomplished?!) anything like that?

I've had actually made a pirate for the Blades pirate, and that was my plan. Although I am in the process of leaving pirates I don't see this in the future.

[Kat Five Knives]

Cougar is my SVS Specialist - with maxed cannons and points configured to favor svs.
Kat Five is my treasure hunter.. with the famed Golden Charm and maxed treasure sense - I use her when the guild want to go sailing for plunder and gold.

I have not decided Jag's fate or Fire Tigress.. But I do like the idea of specializing your pirates. I usually make that decision when they are close to mastering, and depending on the luck of their drops.

[WeirdBeard]

I think you left out something....


Grenades. My third pirate has, Cannon, Sailing, Sword, gun, Dagger, and getting grenades. I'm gonna master Grenades first. Favorite weapon.

[Rannulf]

Having eight master pirates, I have a few that fit ye Arch type mold. I have one that is the voodoo specialist. He has quite the collection of voodoo dolls. Other have blades, example two use primarily sabres. Two cutlasses. One is as ye described has a fine selection of blades.

All my pirates are sailors. Because this is my favorite game activity. It would be nice to have new skills thrown into the mix so ye could be more specialized. Ye can specialize as a master pirate, but at lower levels it would be very difficult for the reason ye stated.

Who knows what the future holds for our game? This may come to be next year.

[Davy_Mcwrecker]

Originally Posted by Dark_Pixie

PvP jumpers who are around level 30 and have already mastered those two skills - they're of the most use in PvP for jumpers than anything else.

I don't see the point of using throwing knives. A full combo of knives = one shot my dread repeater with rank 5 shooting, rank 5 take aim, and rank 5 steel/silver*.

Therefore, the so-called experts** of pvp aren't even sure of the full potential/use of PvP.

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* Been Awhile, I forgot which one causes the major damage.

** Also known as "Jumpers."

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I really hope no "pro" jumpers read that....

[lerzba]

Svsers = Master sailing/cannon or just sailing/cannon depends on what they do
Pvpers = Master sword/dagger or just sword


For mains, they should level equally until they get 20, then master grenades and even everything else out. I'm a main so, and my other pirate is a pvper.

[Dark_Pixie]

Originally Posted by Davy_Mcwrecker

I don't see the point of using throwing knives. A full combo of knives = one shot my dread repeater with rank 5 shooting, rank 5 take aim, and rank 5 steel/silver*.

Therefore, the so-called experts** of pvp aren't even sure of the full potential/use of PvP.

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* Been Awhile, I forgot which one causes the major damage.

** Also known as "Jumpers."

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I really hope no "pro" jumpers read that....

LOL, this is true. But knives are more 'graceful' for jumpers, and you can jump around while using them, while gun is a little more clunky and frowned upon in the world of jumping. Perhaps the jumpers only dislike weapons that could easily defeat them?

[lerzba]

I'm a very good jumper.

We want to make the pvp matches seem harder, rather based on aim and skill more (we only use cutlass with dagger) No broadswords/or any special weapon abilities such as Ice Freeze on Silver Freeze in example.

Using a gun hitting 1000s just seems cheating in our view and no skill in our view, we aren't the type of people that would attune someone with a doll and run around in circles, or keep spamming a normal pistol.

Simply, thats just our PvP rules. Jumpers rule at pvp, no doubt about it.
Our Rules would be this:
- Only cutlass and dagger (Why no broadsword you may ask?, because you don't need to know how to aim to use it, you can just swing randomly 10 feet away with it and it would hit, cutlass is based on aim)
- No Asp on dagger, or throw dirt
- No Brawl on weapon
- No special attacks (or any cutlasses that have pain immunity so you can't get stunned)

Yesterday, I fought a 2vs1, they were both NON-jumpers (A level 50 and 37 vs me) I'm level 45. Our rule was only cutlass and dagger. Starting score became 5-0-0 for me, then I got up to 6 kills and died. The level 37 started attuning me and using grave shackles because he was mad, and he healed the level 50. I used Vipers nest to get rid of his attunements and interrupt his gun he was using as well (so I followed my own rules but I still won, but now a Jumper vs a Jumper using other weapons is just cheating, and ungraceful). Ending Score was 11-2-1. I will show a picture of the match (I can take pics, do fast switching and concentrate all at once, just because I PvP a lot. Don't pay attention to my duelists rank, because I just started PvPing after a 2 year quit and I made a new account and still haven't lost my pvp/jumping touch.




When I said "woiw" I mis-typed wow, because I was jumping at the time, they started cheating using guns and dolls.

Even if I used my best gun, or a doll or something, I would still do better with swords and daggers because thats what I'm best at.

What's Fast Switch? When you bladestorm and switch weapons quickly without waiting the time for bladestorm to do. Every second counts in a PvP match. What you do is just copy /afk and paste it ingame using the shortcut keys CTRL+V for paste soon as you bladestorm, and you'll have to do it fast or it won't work. My aim with bladestorm is very good, and I'd almost never miss a fast-switch unless I mis-clicked a button or something.

Whenever I loot at Dark Hart, I'd only be using swords and daggers jumping around him with the fast-switch, not because of pvp rules, just because I love it and I'm a jumper. It feels nice, spamming blunder is boring and lame.

My post wasn't just a explanation, but also a small guide. There will always be jumpers around, if you like it or not. Just don't make fun of us or insult us, only a jumper would understand what I'm trying to say.

[Captain Hector]

I know one person, my GM Blade who is doing that with a pirate right now.
On my secondary pirate (Capin Otter, PnC), i had a leftover Jack's Brew. I used it and got from lv 17- almost 21 notoriety and lv 20- almost 27 sword. So, I guess I'll master sword first, considering all my other weapons are below lv 10 :P .