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11-10-2010, 01:05 AM
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Greenhorn looking for pointers!
Hi Everyone,
I am looking for some advice, if you could help, it will be much appreciated. First of all...we are 4 months old and are a very active Guild. We grew fast in that short of time as we are maxed at 500 members. We had 501 believe it or not! (That was Weird) lol One thing I do know is that I made a big mistake by promoting way too many Officers and Veterans. An Officer got hot headed and deleted a few members just because they said something he didn't like. I recently reduced the numbers of Officers and Veterans, with the assistance of my top Officers. I explained to the Guild what I was doing, and why, with the restructuring. Surprisingly, only 2 members were not happy, and left the Guild. Now for my questions: 1.) What is the best amount of Officers and Veterans in a Guild this size? 2.) Is it wrong for me to remove members that have not been online for a long while...to make room for others? 3.) Can someone tell me where and how to subscribe to a forum such as this? Thank you in advance! Raven Trueheart, GM Wrath of Ravens Guild |
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#2
11-10-2010, 01:10 AM
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It's okay to remove some if they haven't been online in a really long time, to make ways for active members.
"Quality over Quantity", as Del often says.
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#3
11-10-2010, 01:10 AM
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Alright, lets start at 1 aye?
For officers and veterans. Probably having more vets than officers would make sense. It all depends on how you run things. For my guild, you are made veteran after you have been in the guild a certain amount of time. You could also make it so they have to prove themselves. Or you can make it so you will have 1 veteran for every X amount of members. It honestly depends on how you run things. For officers, it should be less. Idk, for your guild, I would say maybe around 40-50.. but thats a rough guess. I honestly don't know. The officers should be very trustworthy members that have earned it. It really is your choice completely. For number 2: Yes, you should. Perhaps for your guild, I would go through cleanups every so often to get rid of inactive members to make room for new ones. How many you get rid of is up to you. Number three. I don't exactly understand what you are asking. If it is how to get a subforum, I believe Batleth posted something in the Guilds and Clans section about that. Good luck with your guild! |
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#4
11-10-2010, 01:19 AM
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Aye, I partly agree with the Skull of Fire.
 In all seriousness, you should only promote people you trust to officer. It's destroyed many a guild by having an untrustworthy member as officer. Veterans, that's different. Do what ya want with them. For number 2, it is not wrong to delete members for not coming on. After a few months, that's too much. Delete 'em. And as Davy said, could you reword number three a little better? The subforum policy as at the top, stickied. |
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11-10-2010, 05:41 AM
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Thank you for your advice everyone....
I know now about trustworthy officers, thats for sure! I have around 35 now and I know they are the best. So, 50 maybe a good number for my guild, we'll see. Veterans, it sounds like are no worry as to how many we there are. I found that having happy Vets make a happy guild! I guess my feelings for cleaning up is mixed because I have a big heart that can get in the way..... my Officers know more as to who comes on more during the day as I am come on after work and know who comes on then. My question on the forums is that I am new to all this and would love to be a regular part of a forum/forums...I guess I am not sure what is actually involves or what is out there. I will check it out... Thanks I Appreciate it! Any more suggestions? 
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#6
11-10-2010, 05:49 AM
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Another suggestion, is in regards to seeing bad members. I have had to deal with them before, and most of the time, once you confront them, they leave the guild anyway. However, if you have a misbehaving member, or have another guildmate complain to you about a misbehaving member, don't just let it slide. Always make sure that you have a talk with the person. Don't eject them automatically. It is always best to see if you can work things out with them.
If they listen to you, great! If they continue with bad behavior, you should just eject them. You want to be fair, and give people chances, but don't take risks and let them cause harm to guildmembers. |
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#7
11-10-2010, 08:27 AM
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You already have a great start Much like being in a guild, being a regular part of a Forum(s) is being involved If you have knowledge or insight on a thread, then post it If you feel a little bit restless & fiesty, then check out the activities area One of the best things you can do for you & your guild is to start a thread for them Get your guildies to come & participate Talk about guild things on it, like events & accomplishments Post game screenies, everyone loves to see a guild in action We are very supportive here & happy to help If you need anything just send me a PM, I am pretty much 'Winging' it too |
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#8
11-10-2010, 01:28 PM
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1. Try to think what would be the best way for you to handle it. Do you like having only a few officers to ensure their status and to make it easier. Or would you like many to help ensure the guild's behaviors.
2. Yes you should, unless they're on a hiatus from vacation. 3. Click here for the link for a subforum guildlines. |
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#9
11-10-2010, 02:23 PM
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1 officers are what represent your guild same with veterans but it is really up to you
2 yes remove inactive people 3 and i don't think they understand what you said all u have to do is to start a thread here if we didn't answer your question pm a mod |
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#10
11-10-2010, 03:10 PM
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1.) What is the best amount of Officers and Veterans in a Guild this size?
ETC hit the 500 wall with about 24-25 officers and about 12 Veterans at that time. And, often there has been a debate that maybe we have too many. Originally, my goal was around 10% of our members would be promoted. My main concern was are the officers we ELECTED doing their job eagerly and respectfully. While that number may sound low - compare the number of officers to the number of REGULAR players on during the day - NOT the total of pirates in the guild. Be willing to DEMOTE inactive full officers down to veteran status and work to promote active veterans to full officer. It is a good motivation for them to be rewarded for their efforts. We don't have a recruiting quota in our guild, but if an officer is long absent or suddenly unable to be on for a while - the officers will vote to demote them for the time being. They understand that full promotion can always be reinstated. Officers perform several duties: Maintain Order, Assist and Support Members, Improve Morale, Help Organize Events, Recruit New Members, Keep the GM Updated. As far as I'm concerned, Veterans have the same duties - just to a lesser degree. 2.) Is it wrong for me to remove members that have not been online for a long while...to make room for others? Purging is a very sensible solution. We recently did a major housecleaning from 500 down to 408 last week. I asked each officer to go through the roster and give me 5-10 names of pirates they believed were not playing. As I compared their choices, I also looked for obvious signs of inactivity (very low Notoriety or skill levels, 0 Potion or 0 Fishing skill, basic clothes since the big update, etc.) and in some cases put up a list of names to be sure we just had not missed them. 3.) Can someone tell me where and how to subscribe to a forum such as this? An established guild can ask to add a sub-forum here |
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#11
11-10-2010, 06:29 PM
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Thanks Davy for your suggestions....I do have a three strikes you're out rule:
One-Talk to them about behavior or what ever it may be. Two-Warning, last chance to prove their self. Three-They are out. I repeat to my guild often about guild rules...I just wish I could have more guild meetings. I am going to try and work harder on that. It can only happen on weekends. Luckie, thank you very much for your warm welcome. It's great to have your support. You all are very knowledgeable on guild issues, looks like I'll be learning fron the best! And I am glad I took a chance and posted on this forum! : ) Dog, thanks for the link to the sub-forum. Oh Man, it can be a little intimidating looking at Batleths posting of guidelines. Don't know if I am quite ready for that yet. I think I will take it slow....lol Eliza...your suggestions are great. 10% officers per amount of members would be around 50 as Davy mentioned. Sounds good to me! I am online 4-5 hours every evening and my officers inform me of problems or suggest promoting. And we all (officers & vets) decide that together. I like your aspect on the purging...never thought about checking potions, fishing and clothing....Very good idea! Thanks All! Later! Raven |
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#12
11-13-2010, 02:49 AM
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No one is Perfect
Bill The Butcher - The Butcher Loker Guild GM Well, Raven, i say no one is perfect or born knowing all in the life, well everyone get experience some how, and the bad experiencies make us mature and also prepare us to lead better, so my advice about officer is this: I say u define a good training for officer, and the candidates must be supervisioned by top officers and put on fire, on test to prove themselves, and after a good time of recruit they will be aproved if they pass, the time will help us know them better how reliable they r and how ready they realy are. About ppl not coming on or inactive on guild i say u should replace unless is a special situation like a mate that is on school, or work sometimes theres exceptions, others that dont log for long is fair enough u delet or will have a inactive guild beter replace for active ppl, and have like 100 on every day. My note for u in schedule 1 - 20 is 20 u are a amazing GM, Nice, great heart 9 sometimes too much ) u done a great job and for real im considering join my guild with urs. What u r doing is a superguild in caribbean. |
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#13
11-13-2010, 03:18 AM
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Hmpf, surprised I never saw this thread before. But, here's my input:
I would never let size determine how many Officers and Veterans you have in your guild. You just need to make sure that every single Officer and Veteran you promote, you would be willing to hand down the entire guild to their responsibility, without hesitation. The hierarchy and members of my guild know all too well - the road to Officership in our guild takes at least around a year. I take as much time as possible to look over every single aspect of that member - what they like, what they don't like, how they act, how responsible they are - and with that kind of care, I will guarentee you that you will, in no time, have one of the best circles around you in the entire Caribbean  I realize, of course, this would be difficult for such a large guild as yours, while PNC only has 123 at the moment. But I would at least try to have your Officers attempt to keep track of the members in your abscence. After all, your Officers/Veterans should be the kind of people you'd trust your life with. I really try to never boot inactive members, but in your case, with your guild peaking at the limit, what has to be done may have to be done. Just try to make sure the other person understands your reasoning. Same for demotion. Whenever we are forced to demote somebody due to inactivity, I'll always send them a PM explaining why, nothing personal, etc. etc., and suggest to them to head back in game to reprove themselves. Just remember, don't demote somebody if they take a reasonable, announced leave - that's just not right, savvy?  Lastly, I'll address two things: 1. If you mean subscribing as in getting an official, neato signature spot or something else, just follow the link on the home page that deals with Donations. 2. If your trying to get a sub forum for your guild... may the force be with you. Getting a subforum is a long, long, LONG process, requiring lots of preparation. It takes a lot of cooperation and time on your guild's part. However, I have no doubt you can accomplish it - just ask ole Del if you need any pointers on it?  If ya need anything else, please ask Happy pirating! 
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11-13-2010, 07:11 AM
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