Is this guild dead?

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Hey POF guys, its me again.
I have a question that maybe some of you older players can answer.

I have been playing this game for a long time and I always remember the largest, most powerful guild being a guild called The Savvy. As many of you players that have been playing for a while may remember, this was probably the most active guild for a long while. Anybody know what happened to that guild? The GM didnt leave, I checked in the pirate directory. Did he just become inactive?

Just curious because I havent seen people from that guild for well over 6 months.

[Captain Del]

I see The Savvy frequently on the leaderboards, however, seeing as they aren't updated much, it doesn't approve nor deny your question.

I haven't seen many of their members around either (perhaps 1 or 2 here and there,) which seems as a shock, seeing as how I always used to see them around. However, just because you don't see them around much, don't automatically assume they're with the dead and the gone. It's a possibility their members hang out on Quiet Servers nowadays, and aren't as common as seeing around.

[Sven Osymthe]

I have quite a few friends who were in the Savvy, and they have since moved on to a new guild. I don't know the details, but I don't think The Savvy is as active anymore.

I see The Savvy frequently on the leaderboards, however, seeing as they aren't updated much, it doesn't approve nor deny your question.

They haven't updated in months, so it wouldn't make a difference.

[Cannonfury]

yes they are mostly gone, most of the savvy have left because the gm and co-gm quit and most went to the guild...the w a n t e d

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Ah I see. Thanks guys. I do agree with you guys how it is a shock not to see them around much. They used to be around all the time

[Ofury/ Tom]

The Guildmaster no longer plays and neither does co gm therefore those you see are people attempting to keep a guild without a guildmaster which is hard to do. The guildmaster left due to rl issues and didn't plan to come back.

[gingeeann]

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

The Guildmaster no longer plays and neither does co gm therefore those you see are people attempting to keep a guild without a guildmaster which is hard to do. The guildmaster left due to rl issues and didn't plan to come back.

Very sad when that has to happen, I know disney has added vetern rank but I do wish that they could accomodate a transfer of guildmaster or add co-gm rank. An in game guild message board or mail box would be helpful as well.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Originally Posted by gingeeann

Very sad when that has to happen, I know disney has added vetern rank but I do wish that they could accomodate a transfer of guildmaster or add co-gm rank. An in game guild message board or mail box would be helpful as well.

Agreed. Especially a guild as big and well known as The Savvy.

[MacIronhawk]

I'm not going to lie, I've never heard of them. The most active guild I remember during the start of POTCO was the Emerald Sea Gang(ESG) and they've seemed to be less active lately, also.

I wouldn't know, really. I stick more to BBK, and haven't really noticed the activity of other guilds, although I'm sure that unless they were brought down by some disdainful person, they're probably still very active.

Big guilds usually don't die that often, or die at all. Look at McRaging. They're on the leaderboards all the time, and because the name is heard so often, they'll probably never "die".

If the Savvy is a big guild, it's unlikely they'll ever go away. It's near impossible to start a guild up now, since the majority of people in the game are either already in a guild, or looking for a big guild. The only guilds that actually have to worry are guilds with 50 members or less.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Aye, Emerald Sea Gang was around for a long time... but even the biggest guilds dont last forever. Just one little thing happening can totally destroy a guild. I know of a guild, where a big argument happened, and members started leaving, and the guildmaster eventually left. And once the guildmaster leaves, the guild crumbles. I knew another one that was quite successful, and I personally knew the guildmaster. His gf was in the guild, and when they broke up, she left... and about 200 members followed her. The gm stopped playing, and I have only seen one member of the guild since.

My point is, that no matter how successful a guild has been, I have never seen one that I saw when I started playing the game, in 2008, still be very active right now. First, most people were seeing Emerald Sea Gang around, then (at least for me) it was The Savvy. Now, I see McRaging around a lot.

[Sven Osymthe]

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull

Aye, Emerald Sea Gang was around for a long time... but even the biggest guilds dont last forever.

They're still very active, although the GM doesn't log in as much. They still have a way to contact him though, if anything happens.

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

It's near impossible to start a guild up now, since the majority of people in the game are either already in a guild, or looking for a big guild. The only guilds that actually have to worry are guilds with 50 members or less.

Having less than 50 members doesn't necessarily mean the guild will die. Quality is better than quantity, and if members still log in, the guild isn't dead. All it means is that it will be more difficult to find members. It's still possible though, look at PNC, they went from being created to having 100+ members.

[Captain Del]

Originally Posted by Sven

It's still possible though, look at PNC, they went from being created to having 100+ members.

I have to agree though, a lot of the guilds that my pirate grew up around are either dead or dying. Of course, I'm not saying all of them are, which is a good thing.

And I partially have to agree with Mac as well. It tooks us over a year to hit 100 mark (though I have to admit, we aren't the kind of ones to spend our time out and recruiting... LOL ) mainly because of the wide variety of guilds running around. According to the Pirate Guild numbers, theres, what, over 700,000 guilds? Thats 699,999 competitors (unless you want to subtract all the guilds that are dead, but I don't have a calculator that big) you have to beat out in order to find those little gems we call "good seeds." Creating a guild is significantly tougher these days than back in 2008.

Of course, that doesn't mean guilds can't have growth spurts over night. There are guilds here on POF that have passed 100, 200, even 300 members in their first few weeks. Not exactly am I saying that they guilded the most active, nicest players, and nor is this directed at anybody, but still.

What's today's Lessons of the Day? Quality Over Quanity, Your Pirate's Childhood is Slowy Dying, and stuff like that.

[Dog Firestack]

Quality Over Quanity

I believe I get credit for that,

[combatlizzy]

Don't forget test! A few of the guilds named spend alot of time on test with the new updates attempting to report bugs, etc to ready the updates for live. The more well-known guilds spend a great deal of time doing just this-not to slight other guilds which also go on test. Just wanted to add that since I didn't see the fact posted. <<Back to lurking & rl>>

[WilliamHelmmonk]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

It's near impossible to start a guild up now

I know what you mean, but it's not impossible. You need to devote yourself to your guild. I did it a couple of months ago, so there's proof... just don't give up