Test Release Notes - April 7, 2010 - Discussion

[Jamesvsthekraken]

I heard it from Disney gosh Mr. Negative <.>

[Sven Osymthe]

Not being negative, just stating facts. We all know that it is coming eventually, you don't have to include in every single post that, it needs to come on such and such day, or that you heard from so and so that it's coming out very soon.

And I repeat, "Be patient and please realize that there is a Test server for a reason..."

[Crestshot]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

I heard it from Disney gosh Mr. Negative <.>

You heard it from Disney that the update was coming this weekend? I don't recall reading that anywhere in the posts James.

Look, there's a reason people are able to get on test. It's because they have proven themselves to be good players, and not in the sense of getting to level 50 notoriety. These are the people who are able to get on test because Disney thinks that they can count on them to tell them what's wrong with the game.

If this did get to live server, you have to imagine the money Disney would lose James. That's what this really boils down to: the money. If this gets released to live the way it is right now there would be so many people dropping their subscription because they think POTCO is not up to par anymore.

Not everyone reports the bugs James. They pass it off as something Disney will fix eventually, or something that's wrong with their computers. Because of this, the stuff likely wouldn't get fixed faster. With an entire team of people on Test working essentially to report the bugs, it does in fact go quicker.

Also, if there were more people experiencing these problems, who knows what it would do to the POTCO servers as a whole? There are only 2 servers on Test. If it went to the many, many more that are on live, what would happen if everyone from every server crashed at the same time during an invasion? It may bring the whole interface down, causing even more issues.

You have to be patient mate. Please. I've had to create a new pirate 3 times because of all the resets they've done, so I'm not the happiest person right now, but I am getting through it, dealing with it, sending in my many bug reports, along with everyone else, so the rest of the POTCO players can experience as much of a bug free game as possible. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate crashing the moment you landed in Cuba mate. Be patient. This doesn't happen overnight. Thanks.

[gingeeann]

"Be patient" is easy to say when you have test. If someone does not, it is not easy to hear. Especially when that person is on live playing a pirate that is in a guild of 400+ with a maxed friends list and no one they know is there and when people do come online they say "no updates yet" and log off quickly. I have friends will not put in their new game cards until the game is updated... why waste money?

[Jamesvsthekraken]

I was told on Live Chat geez.. why are you guys so mean? This update still has some fixes it needs yes but if it goes to Live this weekend then it will get fixed faster geez. Live Chat even told me they cannot fix everything in the game, they try really hard to yes, but everything cannot be fixed. This cant be ooh lala when it comes to Live like you all want ok? Geez no need to be so mean about it. Disney will not lose money, people will be getting game cards etc, and this update will probably both bring back old members and bring in new members. They will fix it asap on The Live Game instead of a few days on Test. In case you guys had not noticed They had to reset the levels etc in order to fix things. This is Test remember?

[Captain Sureshot]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

I was told on Live Chat geez.. why are you guys so mean? This update still has some fixes it needs yes but if it goes to Live this weekend then it will get fixed faster geez. Live Chat even told me they cannot fix everything in the game, they try really hard to yes, but everything cannot be fixed. This cant be ooh lala when it comes to Live like you all want ok? Geez no need to be so mean about it. Disney will not lose money, people will be getting game cards etc, and this update will probably both bring back old members and bring in new members. They will fix it asap on The Live Game instead of a few days on Test. In case you guys had not noticed They had to reset the levels etc in order to fix things. This is Test remember?

Disney told you about the release date of new content on Live Chat?!? Well then, that guarantees it! /sarcasm

I wouldn't get all riled up over what someone told you. They've told people a lot of things that didn't turn out as indicated. POTCO has over promised and under delivered way too much since the game went live.

Remember this is Test? Of course! Which is why I completely (and reasonably I will add) expect the game build to be pretty darn tight before it's released to Live, especially when the developers have ample opportunity to utilize the Test server to work out bugs and glitches.

James, how many members do you think would leave POTCO if the developers have to reset pirates on the Live server? I remember it's Test. Hopefully the developers will, too.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by gingeeann

"Be patient" is easy to say when you have test. If someone does not, it is not easy to hear. Especially when that person is on live playing a pirate that is in a guild of 400+ with a maxed friends list and no one they know is there and when people do come online they say "no updates yet" and log off quickly. I have friends will not put in their new game cards until the game is updated... why waste money?

I know what you mean Gingeeann. I really do. And I want to offer a very simple solution. Clean out your Friends List and start looking for a some friends and a Guild who's main focus is fun and teamwork.

It is my opinion that really large guilds tend to focus on a core group anyway. Sometimes it is hard to break into that core group...

If that is TOO simple (and I tend to think it is), then patience is all we have left. Believe me. If you think NOT having this update is trying your patience...try having it. For example, I have completed the same leftover weapons quest FOUR times. Three full resets have set me back in time to completely do it over again.

That and repair my ships, sort my weapons and clothes, sell all the stuff I no longer use, restart the weapons quest, level up weapons and then do it all over again.

I hope you get what you are looking for. When the updates DO hit, they will be far more stable and will add much more to your playing experience. But ONLY if they are stable.

Fair Seas.

[Juliana Maria]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

This update still has some fixes it needs yes but if it goes to Live this weekend then it will get fixed faster geez. Live Chat even told me they cannot fix everything in the game, they try really hard to yes, but everything cannot be fixed. This cant be ooh lala when it comes to Live like you all want ok?

James, I understand what you are trying to say, but you have to look at the bugs that have already occurred since the update was released on test. Pirates have been deleted,
reset, weapons and clothing drops lost. If that was on live, it would be a disaster! At least on Test, people expect these sorts of things due to the plain fact that it is the test server.
Its understandable that not every bug or glitch will be fixed by their release, but its important that the major ones are. Is it frustrating? Of course! But it is worth the wait to know
that when the update is finally released to live, there should minimum to no problems.

And as for releasing it this weekend so the issues are fixed more quickly, it may certainly bring bug fixes about more quickly, but it also very well may not. What if they release
the update and they find out they have to shut down live for a few days? Or what if peoples main pirates are lost and reset? How about if you found a ton of cool weapons only to lose
them all because the servers had to reset? Would that be worth having the update released before it was ready? I personally do not think so.

I can't imagine how upset I'd be if these issues occurred to my live pirates. I know its difficult to wait, but the way I look at it, we've been waiting this long... what is a little longer
to ensure a bug-free release? I'm sure that people aren't trying to be mean here, they are just trying to explain to you why it is important that Disney does not rush this.

[Luvbug]

Disney will undoubtedly release it before we think it is ready, but in my opinion this is SO far from ready, that even Disney will realize it. I have a level 41 (been a 42/43 a couple of times in the last couple weeks) that has TP quests to all the islands, and NO weapon quests. I have "plundered" uncountable cool new weapons, only to log on the next day and have them all gone (again). None of my "big" pirates (Level 30+) currently have the new weapon quests, and they all should. It isn't ready.

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[Sven Osymthe]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

I was told on Live Chat geez.. why are you guys so mean? This update still has some fixes it needs yes but if it goes to Live this weekend then it will get fixed faster geez. Live Chat even told me they cannot fix everything in the game, they try really hard to yes, but everything cannot be fixed. This cant be ooh lala when it comes to Live like you all want ok? Geez no need to be so mean about it. Disney will not lose money, people will be getting game cards etc, and this update will probably both bring back old members and bring in new members. They will fix it asap on The Live Game instead of a few days on Test. In case you guys had not noticed They had to reset the levels etc in order to fix things. This is Test remember?

James, Live Chat is just gonna tell you what you want to hear, and for the who knows what number time... unless posted on the site, don't believe what you hear. If everyone on this forum said that the update is coming this weekend, does that make it true? Short answer, NO.

If Live Chat told you that everything can't be fixed, WHY are they telling people in emails they are working on patches? Even more proof, don't believe what you hear from someone.

Disney won't lose money? You said so yourself, they have had to reset the levels in order to fix everything. What makes you think that will be accepted by everyone on the Live server, the server of which the purpose is to PLAY not TEST.

And not to be "mean", but you sorta contradicted yourself. Saying that Live Chat told you bugs can't be fixed, then saying that if the update is released to Live, the bugs will be fixed faster.. don't see how that's possible if they "can't" be fixed And while on this.. the TEST server is where the game is to be TESTED, not on the LIVE server where people are there PAYING to PLAY.

I don't remember, I KNOW what Test is about, you should try to remember that too.

Originally Posted by gingeeann

"Be patient" is easy to say when you have test. If someone does not, it is not easy to hear. Especially when that person is on live playing a pirate that is in a guild of 400+ with a maxed friends list and no one they know is there and when people do come online they say "no updates yet" and log off quickly. I have friends will not put in their new game cards until the game is updated... why waste money?

I understand that it could be bad for those not on test, but everyone still has to be patient. I would be saying the same thing with or without test access. I wouldn't mind waiting for the updates, and I would actually prefer to be able to enjoy them without bugs. Being patient for the bugs to be fixed would be more rewarding to the players in the end.

[Jamesvsthekraken]

I already talked to them about that and they said they will not and i repeat "NOT" reset anyone on the live game. No Sven they did not give me what i wanted to hear they cant tell me when its going to be released only that they said soon or very soon. Gosh im really getting sick of all you guys saying there's a bug here or a glitch there, again nothing is perfect its a common fact! If they update test again with another update you guys will still say "Well this doesnt work its not ready this week well maybe another week or two". etc... Sorry, But i would suggest stop being rude and mean and just play test. Honestly. and yes that was mean what you said and its true things will get fixed faster on more players = more people sending in feedback and yes i know its the not test. geez. Can't you guys just be nice for once?

[Sven Osymthe]

James, the truth isn't being mean, rude, or anything else. There are plenty of problems with this update that still exist. Game crashes and loss of inventory, as well as levels? Yeah..those are really acceptable on Live.

I'm getting tired of saying this.. bu here goes yet again. Things may get fixed faster with more players, but the point of live, yet again, is to PLAY. The reason they even have a test server is so that those chosen to TEST will do just that, TEST the updates. Smaller updates such as Fleets took a month to be released, and a huge game changer should only take two weeks?

I have a suggestion as well. If you have a problem with people "complaining" about the updates, please quit complaining yourself that the updates need to come soon. The update will be here when it gets here, until then, be patient.

[ex8404]

I played a lot today. Didn't have to work so...what the heck. The more I played, the more I realized just how not-ready-for-primetime this update truly is.

Today was laggy, buggy and glitchy. Animations were off and weapons performed oddly. Drops were found, collected and then just evaporated, never making it into the inventory.

Big glitches are so obvious that I am not sure if I even want to bother with some smaller ones. For example: I got a really AWESOME Pirate Blunderbuss. Attack score of something like 68. It has a breaker bonus called Stun Shot and it gives a +2 bonus on Take Aim and a +1 bonus on something else.

I loaded this monster with Silver Shot, Pointed it at General Sandspine in the Rats Nest, took aim and BOOM! It did 5900 points of damage. That is not a typo. Five Thousand nine hundred points of damage. But it has a bug. That Take Aim bonus? It is actually applied to Venom Shot. Is this a big deal? Does anyone need to know? But it IS why we test...isn't it?

I have gained back just about all the progress I lost in the last reset. I know we are testers and that it is important but the Resets are a morale killer. I don't want to lose my new BFG. I like it. But I will probably report the bug anyway. And the one with Fire Skull and the one where the stumps don't move, and the lag and the messed up animations and the freezing and the random boots...

I am not doing it because I am mean. But to not do it? Now THAT would be mean.

Semper Fidelis Mates

[Dr. Zeppers]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

I already talked to them about that and they said they will not and i repeat "NOT" reset anyone on the live game.

Keep in mind they keep reseting characters to fix the bugs on test, if such bugs migrated to live, they would need to be reseting accounts on live as to fix them as well. The reprecussions of reseting characters on live would be immense, which they know and is why they said they would "NOT" reset anyone on live.

Any bugs that require character resets to resolve must be fixed before going live.

Keep up the good work testers.

[Jamesvsthekraken]

If they "reset" your characters on Live which they said may not happen as they didnt expect it to. It would be reset you back to level 1 just back to the way you were before the update.