Its the little things that count.

[Freedomna]

Pirates is a great game, What really makes me love the game is the Ship Combat since its real time. Sadly the game does not get a perfect score for a few things, I will list the few things and post ideas on how to improve it.

The Code:
This annoys me to death, How come we can; hack,stab,poison,incinerate, blow up, drown, and curse the navy but we can not shoot them??? I think its because Disney dosn't want the little kids to think its okay to shoot people... if this is true Disney gets a facepalm . Seriously, if we can kill the navy in all those diffrent ways and not shoot them because of that the world has gone dumb.

Suggestion: Let us shoot the navy.
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Graphics:
The graphics of this game remind me of what we thought were good graphics in 2006. I am not asking for Modern Warfare2 meets Halo Reach graphics, just an improvement thats all

Suggestion: Better Graphics

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Censor:
Last time I checked numbers were not swear words however if I want to say I sunk three ships I get the message saying the words in itallic have been censored, and to my supprise the only word in itallic is three.

I can type the number or type out the full word, its all censored. Does Disney hate math or something?

Suggestion: Uncensor the numbers and rethink your censor.

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Lockon:
Sometimes its useful, sometimes its annoying. I find it annoying that no matter how well I try to dodge something, it hits me. What is up with the throwing knives following the person? Allow us to be able to dodge.EDIT: By dodge I mean step out of the way

Suggestion: Allow us to be able to dodge attacks.

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Pathfinding:
Disney's POTC Online has a great NPC Path finding system since the NPCs never get stuck, which sometimes is a bad thing.

It makes it dumb to try to attack someone at a range since they catch up with you in less then two seconds.

Suggestion: Fix the NPC path finding system.
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Pirateness:

I feel like when I play this game I am the good guy, Kind of odd since I am playing a pirate game.

Suggestion: Add some quests that make you feel like a pirate. Maybe some morality choices like they did in Army of Two 40th day.
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Mood Swings:

I was doing the quest where you need to give a dozen eggs to this Navy officer. I give him the eggs and he said now leave since I had enough of you. I walk away and I see him saying "Fairwell" with a smile and a wave...

Suggestion: Let the navy be mean to us after all we sink their ships...
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Ranks:
I am an ex player of Puzzle Pirates and the thing I loved about it was there were tons of ranks. Cabin Boy/Girl, Pirate, Officer, Fleet Officer, Senior Officer, Captian (no I did not look those up, I have good memory)
It is annoying that all we have is, member, officer, guildmaster. Talk about a good chain of command there...

Suggestion: Add more Guild Ranks and allow us to make our own custom ranks.
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Trading:
This game would be better if you could trade in my opinion. Get better deals off ships, help a friend, sell a rare sword.

Suggestion: Add Trading
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Capture Ships:
Suppose your a pirate in real life in the 18th century. You are on your sloop and see a war galleon that just came out of a firefight clinging to life almost to port. You give the order to attack, after some cannon fire your board it and kill the enemy crew, So what do you do? The logical thing is to capture the ship, no? In this game we are forced to sink the ship though.

Suggestion: Give us the option to board all ships and capture them.

[JM Ohara]

Uh, numbers will never be allowed. No, they aren't swear words, but they can be used to give out personal info. Hence, numbers will always be only in open chat. (And even then they are often filtered.)

[Dan_OB]

Originally Posted by TheHawke

Uh, numbers will never be allowed. No, they aren't swear words, but they can be used to give out personal info. Hence, numbers will always be only in open chat. (And even then they are often filtered.)

While it is a great goal, censoring numbers does nothing to achieve it because it is as easy as won , to, tree to work around it. Better to allow numbers, I think, and watch for number strings that might be phone numbers. Ages would be harder but then giving out your age is so easy now that not having numbers censored would make no difference. Just seems an unnecessary annoyance to me. But you are probably right, they will never change it.

[Swash]

1. I agree fully with your idea of shooting Navy. First off Disney has no right of saying this game is oriented towards kids because the rating is 10+ and 10 year olds are smart enough to know that shooting people is bad. And also the movies are PG-13 so why in the world would parents let their 7, 8, and 9 year olds play a game based off a movie for teenagers.

2. Graphics should be easy as Disney is a Multi-Billion dollar company and they say it takes them years to make something that could be done in a matter of months. Bungie the company that makes Halo is releasing a game soon that will equal Disneys audience in POTCO and Bungie makes probably 30 times less and has a smaller team than Disneys, but they can release a Graphics engine that makes 2009 engines look like 1999? Disney should not have any problem releasing new content and better graphics.

3. Again this game is for 10+ and I bet you that 90% of the 10 year olds have gotten the lesson from their moms to not talk to strangers, reveal Personal Info, etc.

4. I think I saw a dodge coming in with the next update if I'm not mistaken.

[Captain Del]

The Code - Lets think about this for a second; why do parents constantly put under fire games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty? Because you shoot people! You'd be surprised by the amount of parents that let kids as young as possible play games that are T, M rated, just because their kids want them! Its not so much a matter of a fail, as a matter of Disney not wanting to get sued.

Graphics - Have ya ever noticed that the better the graphics, the more adult-orientated the games get? Thats why games like Animal Crossing are rated E (hence their nice, fluffy graphics,) while games like Mass Effect are rated M. Better graphics tends to provoke realism, violence, adult themes, or all three. Besides, lets face it, its a DISNEY games. They are a "happy smile fun land!" type of company, and hardcore, complex graphics at any rate aren't up their alley.

Censors - Exactly what TheHawke said. Numbers can be used to give away anything from phone numbers, to addresses, to even an age. And we all know what that can lead to.

The scary thing is, people as old as 16, 17 are giving away their Personal Info. to people they don't know. Sure, you can trust the parents and uncensor numbers. But 99% of the time, the kids just ignore the advice their parents and teachers give them. And then what happens, when kids are getting their identities stolen (which IS a major problem with kids on the internet,) and sometimes things even worse? The company that acted as the predator's medium gets the blame. And once again, we find Disney not wanting to get sued.

Lockon - Thats understandable, and I am behind your point. But with the creation of jumping amongst pirates, I'm guessing its just to make sure that all pirates recieve the same amount of damage, so its somewhat fair.

Pathfinding - It wouldn't be that fair if pirates could just stand behind a fence, or on a ledge, and fire away grenades without getting hurt. It takes away the challenge in the game.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by Swash

1. I agree fully with your idea of shooting Navy. First off Disney has no right of saying this game is oriented towards kids because the rating is 10+ and 10 year olds are smart enough to know that shooting people is bad. And also the movies are PG-13 so why in the world would parents let their 7, 8, and 9 year olds play a game based off a movie for teenagers.

Disney has all the "right of saying this game is oriented towards kids" because it is rated 10+. That is because 10 year olds are kids. And if a person at the ripe old age of 10 knows that "shooting people is bad", why are people still shot every day? IS that something we forget as we get older?

Disney made the game for 10 year-olds because 13 + year-olds are playing X-Box.

Originally Posted by Swash

. Graphics should be easy as Disney is a Multi-Billion dollar company and they say it takes them years to make something that could be done in a matter of months. Bungie the company that makes Halo is releasing a game soon that will equal Disneys audience in POTCO and Bungie makes probably 30 times less and has a smaller team than Disneys, but they can release a Graphics engine that makes 2009 engines look like 1999? Disney should not have any problem releasing new content and better graphics.

Disney is a multi-billion dollar company. But that does not mean that it is all pointed towards POTCO. Bungie has one purpose in life and business. Make video games. And it takes up to three years to make a game like Halo Reach. Disney has to spend their money on Theme parks, ABC, ESPN, Toon Disney, a handful of movie studios, music licensing and a zillion other things.

Bungie's total employee count doesn't equal the night shift at Disney World. And those employees of Disney Worldwide need uniforms, workman's comp, insurance, training etc. POTCO is so far down the line of priorities we are lucky it still exists considering that the movies have been all but forgotten by the general public.

Originally Posted by Swash

. Again this game is for 10+ and I bet you that 90% of the 10 year olds have gotten the lesson from their moms to not talk to strangers, reveal Personal Info, etc.

You don't know that. And the Disney name is worth far to much to be protected by guesses. One kid gets hurt or lost due to this game and Disney loses more than money. They act like mother hens because their brand name is precious and must be protected.

Originally Posted by Swash

. I think I saw a dodge coming in with the next update if I'm not mistaken.

That would be cool. But it is not on the current update.

[Freedomna]

Originally Posted by Captain Del

The Code - Lets think about this for a second; why do parents constantly put under fire games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty? Because you shoot people! You'd be surprised by the amount of parents that let kids as young as possible play games that are T, M rated, just because their kids want them! Its not so much a matter of a fail, as a matter of Disney not wanting to get sued.

My respons: So you are saying its okay for a kids game to allow cutting people up, blowing them up with cannons and grenades, putting hexes on them, ect, ect, ect but its not good if they shoot people.

Graphics - Have ya ever noticed that the better the graphics, the more adult-orientated the games get? Thats why games like Animal Crossing are rated E (hence their nice, fluffy graphics,) while games like Mass Effect are rated M. Better graphics tends to provoke realism, violence, adult themes, or all three. Besides, lets face it, its a DISNEY games. They are a "happy smile fun land!" type of company, and hardcore, complex graphics at any rate aren't up their alley.

My response: So just because a game has graphics better then doom means its for adults???

Censors - Exactly what TheHawke said. Numbers can be used to give away anything from phone numbers, to addresses, to even an age. And we all know what that can lead to.

The scary thing is, people as old as 16, 17 are giving away their Personal Info. to people they don't know. Sure, you can trust the parents and uncensor numbers. But 99% of the time, the kids just ignore the advice their parents and teachers give them. And then what happens, when kids are getting their identities stolen (which IS a major problem with kids on the internet,) and sometimes things even worse? The company that acted as the predator's medium gets the blame. And once again, we find Disney not wanting to get sued.

My response: If the parents are afraid of the kids giving out the numbers, take them off open chat.

Lockon - Thats understandable, and I am behind your point. But with the creation of jumping amongst pirates, I'm guessing its just to make sure that all pirates recieve the same amount of damage, so its somewhat fair.

Pathfinding - It wouldn't be that fair if pirates could just stand behind a fence, or on a ledge, and fire away grenades without getting hurt. It takes away the challenge in the game.

My response: I am not asking the enemies to be stupid, just not be able to dodge every thing item that gets in their way.

[seafox]

I know that I pay for the game, because I like that it is DIFFERENT from my other faves...visually it is a vacation from the ordinary(you need a better graphics card mate, cause on high graphics the detail is very good for what we pay)....the historical element appeals...and nothing is so complex that you can't leave the game for a bit....some of your points are valid...but Dis makes billions....they know the shortcomings of their game...it is what it is...lets keep giving them ideas for story-lines, and development ....and a little statistic for you,,,a child is abducted in this country every 40 seconds,,,almost 5000 a year are taken by outsiders(not family)...and of those the average age is 12...with 2/3 being female...whether a parent "talks" to their kids about stranger safety...really doesn't stop the bad guys...protective censorship might just slow em down...

[Swash]

Originally Posted by Captain Del

The Code - Lets think about this for a second; why do parents constantly put under fire games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty? Because you shoot people! You'd be surprised by the amount of parents that let kids as young as possible play games that are T, M rated, just because their kids want them! Its not so much a matter of a fail, as a matter of Disney not wanting to get sued.

Why can we shoot Skeletons and Animals in game and it be ok, but when we shoot a human enemy then the game is bad? It's the same exact concept, but different targets.

Graphics - Have ya ever noticed that the better the graphics, the more adult-orientated the games get? Thats why games like Animal Crossing are rated E (hence their nice, fluffy graphics,) while games like Mass Effect are rated M. Better graphics tends to provoke realism, violence, adult themes, or all three. Besides, lets face it, its a DISNEY games. They are a "happy smile fun land!" type of company, and hardcore, complex graphics at any rate aren't up their alley.

The better the graphics the better the game. Notice how every game you have mentioned except for Animal Crossing have a great review scores, have great replay value, and sell millions of copies. So your saying I could make a game with amazing graphics and all you do is pet kitties and it's going to be rated M, but if I make a game with horrible graphics with the same elements as GTA IV and it's going to be rated E? A lesson for you is that games are never rated by their graphics.

Censors - Exactly what TheHawke said. Numbers can be used to give away anything from phone numbers, to addresses, to even an age. And we all know what that can lead to.

The scary thing is, people as old as 16, 17 are giving away their Personal Info. to people they don't know. Sure, you can trust the parents and uncensor numbers. But 99% of the time, the kids just ignore the advice their parents and teachers give them. And then what happens, when kids are getting their identities stolen (which IS a major problem with kids on the internet,) and sometimes things even worse? The company that acted as the predator's medium gets the blame. And once again, we find Disney not wanting to get sued.

No matter what Disney does they will never get rid of people giving out Personal Info with Numbers. They would have to ban every word and phrase to get rid of numbers and we all know Disney won't do that.

Pathfinding - It wouldn't be that fair if pirates could just stand behind a fence, or on a ledge, and fire away grenades without getting hurt. It takes away the challenge in the game.

You could ask everyone on POF and ask them if they did an Invincibility glitch somewhere in the game or have used the Grenade leveling up technique in Kingshead and 90% of the time you would get the answer yes.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Freedomna

Lockon:
Sometimes its useful, sometimes its annoying. I find it annoying that no matter how well I try to dodge something, it hits me. What is up with the throwing knives following the person? Allow us to be able to dodge.

Suggestion: Allow us to be able to dodge attacks.

You mean that in all of your time while playing pirates online you've never once seen the little "Dodge" word pop up by you, because you dodged an enemy attack? It doesn't show you dodge an attack, it just says it did, and depending on what skill types you use, you can either dodge attacks much easier, or the same as when you started the game.

I think the graphics are fine, although developer videos show that pirates were much more detail when they were working on them than they are now. Before, we were shaped almost like really people. Now we're boxy. During developing stages, you could have freckles, and face details were right up, I would even say better, than WoWs graphics.

Computer games aren't designed to be the same as console games. They're massive multiplayer, and console games usually only have you going up against 8 to 20 people.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by Swash

The better the graphics the better the game. Notice how every game you have mentioned except for Animal Crossing have a great review scores, have great replay value, and sell millions of copies. So your saying I could make a game with amazing graphics and all you do is pet kitties and it's going to be rated M, but if I make a game with horrible graphics with the same elements as GTA IV and it's going to be rated E? A lesson for you is that games are never rated by their graphics.

The better the graphic the better the game? Nonsense. For a while there, PS3 games were terrible. Looked great but had terrible game play.

Along comes a silly little thing like the Wii and Sony is back pedaling like crazy. To the point of copying the Wii-Mote. Wii outsold X-Box and PS3 combined. Didn't last but it forced Sony to look at game play first and graphics later.

And Animal Crossing has been getting great reviews since it was first released. IGN gave it an Outstanding. Your friends sitting around and saying "Dude, this game sux" is NOT a review.

A lesson for you is that games are never rated by their graphics

A lesson for you. Add great graphics, swords and grenades and cannons and guns and you will get an M rating. Period. There is no blood on POTCO for a reason. No one really dies for a reason. Everyone gets knocked out and everyone goes to jail and POTCO gets a 10+ even though playing poker should get it a T for teen.

If the problem with POTCO is graphics then play Modern Warfare. But if the real problem is that you don't realize that this is a kid's game then I am not sure what to say.

The truth is that POTCO is a neat idea that will NEVER be fully realized. It is a movie tie-in to a series of movies that the average movie goer has already forgotten about. Disney is a huge company and this little corner of the big picture is meaningless to Disney Executives.

I, for one, am happy to have anything at all...

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by ex8404

The truth is that POTCO is a neat idea that will NEVER be fully realized. It is a movie tie-in to a series of movies that the average movie goer has already forgotten about. Disney is a huge company and this little corner of the big picture is meaningless to Disney Executives.

I, for one, am happy to have anything at all...

Eh... I give it ten to fifteen years and the game will be bringing in big bucks for Disney, and it will be a prized game for them to have.(and toontown, too.)

[Freedomna]

@EX808: As I said I am not asking for MW2 graphics but a small update is needed. I do realize this game is marketed to preteens hence why I am not asking for blood and gore.

[Swash]

Originally Posted by ex8404

The better the graphic the better the game? Nonsense. For a while there, PS3 games were terrible. Looked great but had terrible game play.

Along comes a silly little thing like the Wii and Sony is back pedaling like crazy. To the point of copying the Wii-Mote. Wii outsold X-Box and PS3 combined. Didn't last but it forced Sony to look at game play first and graphics later.

And Animal Crossing has been getting great reviews since it was first released. IGN gave it an Outstanding. Your friends sitting around and saying "Dude, this game sux" is NOT a review.



A lesson for you. Add great graphics, swords and grenades and cannons and guns and you will get an M rating. Period. There is no blood on POTCO for a reason. No one really dies for a reason. Everyone gets knocked out and everyone goes to jail and POTCO gets a 10+ even though playing poker should get it a T for teen.

If the problem with POTCO is graphics then play Modern Warfare. But if the real problem is that you don't realize that this is a kid's game then I am not sure what to say.

The truth is that POTCO is a neat idea that will NEVER be fully realized. It is a movie tie-in to a series of movies that the average movie goer has already forgotten about. Disney is a huge company and this little corner of the big picture is meaningless to Disney Executives.

I, for one, am happy to have anything at all...

You fail to realize that I said nothing about adding in swords in guns. You quoted me on games not being rated on graphics and took it upon yourself to add something in so you could be right. Games are not rated on JUST their graphics.

Secondly the Wii outsold the Xbox and PS3 because it was a family oriented system. Unlike the PS3 and the Xbox it is far from being a console for real gamers, Call of Duty is like the only game for real gamers on there. And also I think the WII has great graphics, but un-realistic. And also notice how the Game of the Year last year was a PS3 game and critics are saying that the Game of 2010 is an Xbox game.

Lastly, I back up my argument of Disney having no excuse for taking so long on content with another example. Fallout 3 on PC was a great game and the Developers released an editing pack for it. Turns out the average person took maybe 5 hours from their day and made content better than the people who were PAYED to MAKE the game.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by Swash

You fail to realize that I said nothing about adding in swords in guns. You quoted me on games not being rated on graphics and took it upon yourself to add something in so you could be right. Games are not rated on JUST their graphics.

Never said they were. I merely added to the conversation by pointing out that better graphics means more realistic depictions of violence. And you cannot deny the existence of "swords in (and?) guns" in this game. Therefore, to say that better graphics won't lead to better looking weapons and, as a result, better kill shots is just wrong. Because if you give a mouse better graphics, he's going to want blood.

Originally Posted by Swash

the Wii outsold the Xbox and PS3 because it was a family oriented system. Unlike the PS3 and the Xbox it is far from being a console for real gamers, Call of Duty is like the only game for real gamers on there. And also I think the WII has great graphics, but un-realistic. And also notice how the Game of the Year last year was a PS3 game and critics are saying that the Game of 2010 is an Xbox game.

Thank you for making my point although I would argue that the Wii was just more fun in terms of gameplay. However, like the Wii, POTCO is family oriented. And it is the ONLY reason POTCO works. Period. Since you are in charge of deciding what constitutes games and consoles for real gamers, please tell me where POTCO fits in. In my opinion, POTCO is for casual gamers and to try and hang "real gamer" attributes to it is just plain silly.

You are comparing Disney with companies whose only purpose is to make video games. For machines that exist only to play those video games. They all have the same abilities. Your X-Box is just like my X-Box and My PS3 is just like your PS3. It is easier to hit a target that isn't moving. My PC is NOTHING like your PC. How do the developers deal with this? By marketing something for the lowest common denominator.

POTCO is, first and foremost, an advertising gimmick. And Disney is WAY too big to care about it much. I guarantee, the day POTCO loses a single dime, it gets shut down forever.

This is about as "real gamer" (what does that even mean?) of a game as Farmville is. It just happens to appeal to a lot of people. Leave it alone. It works as it is.

Originally Posted by Swash

, I back up my argument of Disney having no excuse for taking so long on content with another example. Fallout 3 on PC was a great game and the Developers released an editing pack for it. Turns out the average person took maybe 5 hours from their day and made content better than the people who were PAYED to MAKE the game.

We agree on the intent if not the tone here. Disney has been WAY too slow in turning out content. But if Fallout 3 can be improved in 5 hours by some random Joe (who I can only assume was a "real gamer") who wasn't even PAID to do the job, then Fallout 3 must have been really, really bad.