Its the little things that count.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

The reason all the new content is taking so long is because POTCO was released before POTBS so that POTCO could make more money. Whether that's helped them or not is beyond me, but changing islands, caves, and the inventory system should have been done during beta.

Their only other excuse is that their developing staff is less than 20 people.

Not being contentious here or looking for an argument but just how has this little factoid become part of the POTCO lore?

Is it fact or conjecture? Truth is, for a while there I couldn't turn on my TV without seeing an ad for POTCO. I had never even heard of POTBS until I started posting here.

I would love to know the truth behind this and where it comes from.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by ex8404

Not being contentious here or looking for an argument but just how has this little factoid become part of the POTCO lore?

Is it fact or conjecture? Truth is, for a while there I couldn't turn on my TV without seeing an ad for POTCO. I had never even heard of POTBS until I started posting here.

I would love to know the truth behind this and where it comes from.

Sorry, I don't understand the first question.

I believe i'm one of the few people here... or maybe not, that was looking at POTBS and POTCO when they were both beginning. I wanted to see what game looked more fun. And then I started noticing a lot of talk on different forums, particulary POTBS forums, about which game would release first. Many people agreed POTCO would be released first, simply because Disney would think the game would make more money if they released before another pirates online game.

Whether the game was actually released just to be before POTBS or not remains to be seen. However, it would certainly make sense, considering the game has been redone in many areas(islands, inventory, caves) more than in any other game I've played.

Toontown hardly did any redoing once it was released. Changed fishing a bit, toontowncentral, and took out the merry-go-round in minnies melodyland.

Now, POTCO has redone 3 islands, ALL of the caves, and now redoing the inventory system. The new inventory system is certainly more user friendly, other than the fact that not all of our weapons will be at our disposal any time we want. What with the equpping you need to do.

Ok, I've been going on a bit too long. Anyways. if Disney actually cared about this game and its' content, these things would have been changed during beta. Simply put, it looks to me like they decided they need to release the game either in time to beat POTBS or in time with the second pirates movie.

EDIT: I agree with Swash's last post. I honestly wouldn't be posting this if the second story quest was out. I'd be in the game. But instead, I'm here hoping that the developers are reading our opinions. I'm bored of the game. Weapon griding is the majority of the game, and anytime I go on now it's for invasions and EITC fleets. Especially when I get to fight the "enemy" with the crew.

I just want to be playing a game where I feel like I'm accomplishing something. Without a story line I'm lost.

[Nate Swordwalker]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

Without a story line I'm lost.

I TOTALLY agree with you. The game has been starting to bore me, and it has taken control of me before. I stopped about a year after i had joined a week after the game came out. The game needs a new story line, because my two major pirates finished their BP Quest before they were lvl 28. The bbs are too easy and need some changing around. Most of the pirates these days are oldies and need some new stuff to mess around with.

[Johnny Storm]

Originally Posted by Captain Del

The Code - Lets think about this for a second; why do parents constantly put under fire games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty? Because you shoot people! You'd be surprised by the amount of parents that let kids as young as possible play games that are T, M rated, just because their kids want them! Its not so much a matter of a fail, as a matter of Disney not wanting to get sued.

Graphics - Have ya ever noticed that the better the graphics, the more adult-orientated the games get? Thats why games like Animal Crossing are rated E (hence their nice, fluffy graphics,) while games like Mass Effect are rated M. Better graphics tends to provoke realism, violence, adult themes, or all three. Besides, lets face it, its a DISNEY games. They are a "happy smile fun land!" type of company, and hardcore, complex graphics at any rate aren't up their alley.

Censors - Exactly what TheHawke said. Numbers can be used to give away anything from phone numbers, to addresses, to even an age. And we all know what that can lead to.

The scary thing is, people as old as 16, 17 are giving away their Personal Info. to people they don't know. Sure, you can trust the parents and uncensor numbers. But 99% of the time, the kids just ignore the advice their parents and teachers give them. And then what happens, when kids are getting their identities stolen (which IS a major problem with kids on the internet,) and sometimes things even worse? The company that acted as the predator's medium gets the blame. And once again, we find Disney not wanting to get sued.

Lockon - Thats understandable, and I am behind your point. But with the creation of jumping amongst pirates, I'm guessing its just to make sure that all pirates recieve the same amount of damage, so its somewhat fair.

Pathfinding - It wouldn't be that fair if pirates could just stand behind a fence, or on a ledge, and fire away grenades without getting hurt. It takes away the challenge in the game.

I do think that they could do more with the graphics, games such as super mario galaxy or sonic unleased are made for everyone to play and they have great graphics that do not promote violence or realism. Higher quality graphics would be great also along with bug fixes that seem to cause the game lag to many many players. I do agree that Disney is a company that does not want to get sued, which is why they do not let us shoot other human enemies. On the note of their censorship they do this to make the game safe for younger players, although the number blocks tend to get bothersome due to the fact that it makes it hard to tell other players how many more enemies you have to kill. I mostly agree with you Del but I defidently think this game needs higher quality graphics along with bug fixes for the lag. Disney is a huge company and if they invest more into this game it can mean a major rise in memberships which will mean more money for them.

[Nate Swordwalker]

Originally Posted by Johnny Storm

I do think that they could do more with the graphics, games such as super mario galaxy or sonic unleased are made for everyone to play and they have great graphics that do not promote violence or realism. Higher quality graphics would be great also along with bug fixes that seem to cause the game lag to many many players. I do agree that Disney is a company that does not want to get sued, which is why they do not let us shoot other human enemies. On the note of their censorship they do this to make the game safe for younger players, although the number blocks tend to get bothersome due to the fact that it makes it hard to tell other players how many more enemies you have to kill. I mostly agree with you Del but I defidently think this game needs higher quality graphics along with bug fixes for the lag. Disney is a huge company and if they invest more into this game it can mean a major rise in memberships which will mean more money for them.

Good points Johnny.

[Freedomna]

At Jonny Storm:

So Disney thinks its bad to shoot people in a video game that allows you to cut,blow up,burn,poision,drown,ect,ect,ect people???

I will never understands Disney's logic what so ever...

Anyways I am glad on how active this thread is. My first thread and its already populer

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Freedomna

So Disney thinks its bad to shoot people in a video game that allows you to cut,blow up,burn,poision,drown,ect,ect,ect people???

If I didn't watch the pirate movies I would probably think it was a message the developers were trying to send; at least it would make sense, don't shoot other people.

But since I've seen the movies, I'm actually going to say, I think the pirate code is just something the developers want, to challenge us. We're limited to the weapons we can use on the Navy and EITC, so we get a challenge... sort of.

Maybe the whole pirate code will come into play in the future? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure we can't shoot the navy for some reason other than them being people.

[Johnny Storm]

Originally Posted by Freedomna

At Jonny Storm:

So Disney thinks its bad to shoot people in a video game that allows you to cut,blow up,burn,poision,drown,ect,ect,ect people???

I will never understands Disney's logic what so ever...

Anyways I am glad on how active this thread is. My first thread and its already populer

Disney simpily wants to protect their image with the public, true we use swords and grenades and daggers on enemies but pistols or guns are more realistic and they do not want to encourage them in real life. All it takes is one accident and Disney will get sued and lose alot of money.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Johnny Storm

Disney simpily wants to protect their image with the public, true we use swords and grenades and daggers on enemies but pistols or guns are more realistic and they do not want to encourage them in real life. All it takes is one accident and Disney will get sued and lose alot of money.

I hope you realize Disney can't be sued for allowing us to shoot Navy. After all, if the rating was changed to T for Teen then no one could do anything about it.

You can't sue call of duty for being shocked about what you may see. It's your choice to play the game, and isn't required, so if you get hurt playing the game(other than players bullying you) you only have yourself to blame.

Anyways, if Parlay(sp?) was in the movies, I'm pretty sure being in the game only gives us a better feel for the game.

Besides, we don't know if we won't be seeing any undead Navy in the future.

[Johnny Storm]

To elaborate more on the subject, I mean that Disney does not want to get accused of encouraging shooting other people in real life. In example if some child tries to do so then says he/she got the idea from playing this game the parent might try to sue Disney accusing them of encouraging the behaivor. Thats why when you watch shows on TV like say WWE sometimes youll see messeges before the program like: Dont try this at home the people on this show are trained professionals. This is done so they can disscredit any law suites that should arise in a similar incident. Fact is that Disney just doesnt want to risk getting sued over something like this.

[Freedomna]

Originally Posted by Johnny Storm

To elaborate more on the subject, I mean that Disney does not want to get accused of encouraging shooting other people in real life. In example if some child tries to do so then says he/she got the idea from playing this game the parent might try to sue Disney accusing them of encouraging the behaivor. Thats why when you watch shows on TV like say WWE sometimes youll see messeges before the program like: Dont try this at home the people on this show are trained professionals. This is done so they can disscredit any law suites that should arise in a similar incident. Fact is that Disney just doesnt want to risk getting sued over something like this.

Then add a disclamer saying "Do not shoot people at home kids"

[seafox]

I know that I pay for the game, because I like that it is DIFFERENT from my other faves...visually it is a vacation from the ordinary(you need a better graphics card mate, cause on high graphics the detail is very good for what we pay)....the historical element appeals...and nothing is so complex that you can't leave the game for a bit....some of your points are valid...but Dis makes billions....they know the shortcomings of their game...it is what it is...lets keep giving them ideas for story-lines, and development ....and a little statistic for you,,,a child is abducted in this country every 40 seconds,,,almost 5000 a year are taken by outsiders(not family)...and of those the average age is 12...with 2/3 being female...whether a parent "talks" to their kids about stranger safety...really doesn't stop the bad guys...protective censorship might just slow em down...

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Freedomna

Lockon:
Sometimes its useful, sometimes its annoying. I find it annoying that no matter how well I try to dodge something, it hits me. What is up with the throwing knives following the person? Allow us to be able to dodge.

Suggestion: Allow us to be able to dodge attacks.

You mean that in all of your time while playing pirates online you've never once seen the little "Dodge" word pop up by you, because you dodged an enemy attack? It doesn't show you dodge an attack, it just says it did, and depending on what skill types you use, you can either dodge attacks much easier, or the same as when you started the game.

I think the graphics are fine, although developer videos show that pirates were much more detail when they were working on them than they are now. Before, we were shaped almost like really people. Now we're boxy. During developing stages, you could have freckles, and face details were right up, I would even say better, than WoWs graphics.

Computer games aren't designed to be the same as console games. They're massive multiplayer, and console games usually only have you going up against 8 to 20 people.

[Sven Osymthe]

(took out part of the quote)

The better the graphics the better the game. A lesson for you is that games are never rated by their graphics.

Graphics don't make a game better. It all comes down to what the player believes makes the game better. Take for example this, someone buys a Xbox 360 or PS3 game. The graphics look great, and they enjoy the story. A few weeks later they buy the PC version of the game. Graphics are worse, but the concept of the game is the exact same thing. If they like the game because of the concept, are they gonna trash it because the graphics are bad?

As for games not being rated by their graphics, that is 100% correct. Games aren't judged by their graphics when they get rated by the ESRB, they are judged by the concept of the game. If games were given E ratings because the games graphics sucked, wouldn't every game from the PS1 generation of consoles have an E rating?

Secondly the Wii outsold the Xbox and PS3 because it was a family oriented system. Unlike the PS3 and the Xbox it is far from being a console for real gamers, Call of Duty is like the only game for real gamers on there. And also I think the WII has great graphics, but un-realistic. And also notice how the Game of the Year last year was a PS3 game and critics are saying that the Game of 2010 is an Xbox game.

The Wii outsold the Xbox and PS3 because it was family oriented, but also because it was something different. The Wii actually made gamers get more involved with what is going on, rather than using a controller to allow a character to complete a story. (Yes, the Wii used a controller, but it involved moving around, not sitting down mashing buttons.) Just to provide some proof, look in a gaming magazine such as Game Informer, they show the top selling games for consoles, Wii Fit has been in the top 5 for more than a year.. that there should say something, especially since Wii Fit can be played individually.

As for the PS3 and Xbox being for "real gamers".. that is completely false. There isn't such a thing as a "real gamer", you either play games, or you don't. Just because your favorite type of game is much different than another persons favorite game, that doesn't make one better than the other.

[Swash]

Truly we are all here posting on this thread and all threads like this because Disney is too slow. If they had taken another 6 months or a year to increase the quality then we would be arguing less. But truly no game will ever feel complete to a player. There's always more to add and players get mad because of a game not having their ideal weapon or good graphics.