Kingshead Etiquette

[Bartholomew Foulsteel]

I agree Max, but the reason that the OP posted about Kingshead Etiquette is because (at least as I read it) of the ideas that have been additionally covered, to include ownership, rep-stealing, and polite behavior.

I do know people can use the search function, and that the subordinate topic gets discussed semi-regularly, but if the sub-issues of etiquette on KH are important topics to be discussed in regards to the OP, should they not be discussed?

[Maximvs]

Well Bart - at one time I would of looked at it as Rep "Stealing" - but after many discussions we've had here on the subject I looked into some of the math behind it and it matters a lot on a) number of players in the area b) number of targets in the area c) number of Crew % Bonus and d) number of kills / respawns. This is why I went to using Rep Distribution, because it really depends on those factors and you can actually get more Rep in different combinations / enemies / locations than just looking at one location / enemy group.

I've even been able to perform tests on some of this recently using Tormenta vs. Outcast (Tormenta being another "hot spot" for those levelling for large Rep). Other locations as well are just as good or better than KH for Nades or Staffs, which is why the focus of Rep Distribution vs. Kingshead Behavoir I see as two different discussions (and we really do have several threads already on Rep - do we need to go off-topic on this one to add another? )

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As for my viewpoint on KH, I believe general overall politeness usually wins, and when it doesn't I wouldn't want to be there with someone who's rude anyway - and make my exit. I also recommend those trying to level to experiment with other locations besides the obvious - because there are several other locations which return better results for the time spent (and never used).

[Benjamin Dreadgull]

The OP is making a suggestion, I never read this as was making an official anything, just a suggestion for people to use common courtesy.

The problem of people thinking they attack a mob and it is their mob has been a problem in many many online games.

Complain about that and you will be told that nobody owns any enemies PERIOD.

Now if they start mouthing off, you have something to report, if they are harassing you, say following you everywhere you go, you might have a report but just them hitting the same mob, no report.

How to handle this? Leave go to another server or stand your ground and deal with it.

[Crazypirate]

Wow! Let me repeat myself as the OPer it was not intended to set forth all binding guidelines for all pirates to obey or risk the PERMABAN! I have played with alot of new to pirates pirates recently and was just sharing a few pointers that make lvling staff and nades more enjoyable to me. It doesnt mention rep stealing it even mentions sharing and crewing up, no attacking an enemy someone else is fighting wont get u banned but niether will alot of things in the game that are rude like taking the captains wheel while sailing on someone elses ship or randomly asking every pirate you see to be you boyfriend or girlfriend. At the end of the day it is just a game and I was just suggesting ways to play nice with other players and have fun. TY

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by Maximvs

The thread was made as a suggestion on how to act around KH in paticular - and not supposed to be focused on Rep Distribution.

I never at point meant to detract from the OP. If you have read what I posted, I am in complete agreement with the OP.

But read all the posts. If REP stealing, distributing, sharing or whatever is not an issue here then what possible reason would any pirate have to be upset when a stray player comes in and staffs up "your, my, our, his" KH veterans? I am just reading between the lines.

Here is how I play the game. I tend to go solo because my guild has withered and died and I just don't want to start over again with new personalities and new people. I have my choice friends and we help each other whenever we need to.

If I want to level 'nades, I look for a quiet server and just do it. If someone wants to crew and share? Awesome. If someone is already there, then I move on.

If you ask me for help, I'll help. Don't even have to friend me. Have weapons, will travel.

If I see you (yes you) fighting a single enemy, I will NEVER join in. Ever. But I will attune you and make sure you stay healthy whether you ask me or not. You just might need the points more than me. If you are fighting multiple enemies and your health is going down I will heal and maybe take one of your bad guys. Hope that's OK.

When I am sailing, that ship you're attacking is yours. If you are running for port, about to sink, I might just try and get your enemy to focus on me so you can get to port safely though... That one is a little harder to gauge. Judgment call...

If you are nearby and need a revive, my tonics are your tonics. Even if it is my last one. I know where to get more and I have more gold than I need.

My style may be a little odd to some but it works for me. If you insist on joining in on all of my kills instead of getting your own, then I will leave. But one time, just once, I waited until the Seabeard focused on the Level 14 who was bugging me and stood back and watched... I felt bad about it later but at that moment it was oddly satisfying.

Anyway, I quit smoking and need something to do. So I post. Shall I go on about the pros and cons of message forums?

[Eliza Creststeel]

Curious debate... but there are several resolutions -

1) Move to another, more quiet server for the same location.

2) Crew up and work as a unit. Everyone gets more rep and you can pull in the other nearby sergeants and veterans.

3) Go to another spot. Sorry, I know that having a cluster of medium enemies like that is some kind of Holy Grail - but the fence doesn't stop them anymore and there are tons of places, even within KH that you can level.

[CaptainGreenGene]

Originally Posted by Eliza Creststeel

I know that having a cluster of medium enemies like that is some kind of Holy Grail - but the fence doesn't stop them anymore

The fence stops them still, it never didn't. You just have to stand in the right spot.
When more then one person is throwing they get distracted and then they can breach the fence easily.
Stand 5 steps back from the 7th post, that seems to work most of the time.

And as to the OP, If you don't like whats going on then just MOVE.. If you don't like how others play then go where they are not. If you prefer crew then crew up, if you prefer solo then avoid them all and MOVE..

[Crazypirate]

Cool, So you agree with me then?

[ukebec]

Well, I am in accord with Aliese, Max, Ben and so many others.

This is only my perspective as a primarily a solo player.

If I want to lvl up against the parade ground Navy on KH (regardless of weapons) I will sail, and sail, and sail until I find an empty KH. If I get tired of ocean jumping I might just drop the idea entirely for that game session.

I do not jump the parade grounds if someone else is already leveling.

If I'm already there at an unoccupied KH and someone else begins targeting the parade grounds I ask them politely to stop. If I get "they're not yours", etc. I go play ocean pogo until I find another unoccupied KH.

Simple as that. As stated, there are plenty of other places to level. I like KH because there's still a fence glitch that can be used (with spotty success). Yes, I've repeatedly reported the fence glitch on test because that's my job there. But I'll use it 'till it's fixed as long as it doesn't result in confrontation with another player.

Life is too short, and this game is goodish-sized.

The OP's post regarded etiquette and is very worthy in that regard.

[Commodore Larence]

When leveling at Kingshead I usually try to find an empty server first... Then sail from Padres to Kingshead.... If it is empty I level, if not I try another server. If a person pops up and tries to piggy back on my rep, I usually wait a minute or two. Generally most of the lower leveled pirates will end up getting killed, if not I just change servers. I don't mind arguing a bit though lol... but only when instigated lol.

When I level, I try to do it as fast as possible and cut out any time wasting. I can usually get the most rep when I am alone, because most people I run into level by throwing out their strongest attacks and killing enemies quickly... I can get more rep per minute via multiple hits per enemy using weak attacks... By the time I have to deal with a random person quickly killing the enemies, I can be on my boat half way back to Kingshead on another server.



Larence Tuppington

[BigJohn]

I agree with everyone! So now going with past comments ^^^ When I go into Kingshead, I will now make sure no one else is there, but also ask to be crewed, make sure I don't rep steal and that no one else is either. Don't get followed by Pirates but heal pirates as well.
Sod it, Im going to Tormenta instead.....

[Juliana Maria]

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Foulsteel

Try to be helpful to others. You don't know what the situation is behind the toon. And by the way--you might make some friends that way too. And those friends may be inclined to play more nicely.

If they are rude or violate Disney's rules, use the report function.

I've always found this to work for me. If I see someone leveling in a spot already, I move to a different server. If someone comes over to where I'm leveling and starts attacking the enemies, I propose we take turns and share. More often than not people prefer sharing. When they don't, I don't push the matter.. simply find a different server. I've actually met a few good pirates by suggesting we work together to lvl.

Most pirates don't know what 'rep stealing' is. They just come and fight to fight. The only reason we can argue over the matter is because we know how the rep system works. For those who don't know, they see it as just playing the game. In the end though yes, I do agree with what has been said. Politely ask if they wouldn't mind alternating or coming up with some routine that would benefit both, crew up, and maybe make a new friend. If that doesn't work.. just move on. There are plenty of servers out there.

[Kid Heartbreaker]

Most of us will share or move on; and then there are people who are just mean or rude. The following is a true story - I was on my 2nd pirate (Noto 20 and just starting to level grenades at Kingshead). Two people showed up, a Noto 34 (bad pirate) and his friend a Noto 30:

Bad Pirate: Get Lost NOOB

I just kept tossing nades.

Bad Pirate: I said GET LOST NOOB

I just kept tossing nades.

Bad Pirate pulled out his pistol and started shooting me - I just tossed nades. Bad Pirate then took out his staff and tried to Flame Skull me.

Me: You missed me

Bad Pirate: let's PvP and see if I miss you then.

Me: I need ammo (asked bad pirate to be player friends but he said NO. Asked bad pirate's friend to be player friends and he said YES)

I logged off and came back on my Pirate Master who TP'd to bad pirates friend.

I asked bad pirate if he was still interested in PvP but he said "I don't have time - g2g"; and then he went Poof.

Bad Pirates Friend: LOL that was funny

I still have bad pirate's friend on my list and he is always asking me "where can I work blah blah blah"

[lostmymarbles]

Nice way to handle it Kid!

[Shnoodell]

haha kid that was great, needed a few laughs to wake me up