Card Courtesy

[DKpirate]

I'm going to have a hard time explaining what my complaint is, but bare with me...

Two mornings ago, I had been playing poker in Tortuga for a quite a while. I was doing okay, and was winning more often than losing.

Another player sits down at the table. No big deal. I get dealt decent cards, and on the flop, I have a pretty decent hand of two pairs. So, I do a raise. The two computer players match, and so does the other player. The other player would do a series of raises.

Once all the cards are laid out, I do a small raise, which the first computer player matches, the other player matches and raises, and then the other computer player matches. I call, so does the other computer player and then the other player raises again. This started a cycle where it became obvious the player had nothing but junk but was attempting to bluff us all out of the game by raising to ridiculous extremes. Nobody fell for it.

Thing is, I had a decent hand. So, I stuck with it. Once the player apparently ran out of money, everyone showed their cards. As suspected, the other player had zilch. Not even a pair of twos. I had two pairs (Jacks and tens), but I lost to a computer player that had two pairs (Queens high). I lost more than I would have had the other player not been in the game running up the pot with her ridiculous bets. Granted, I could have folded at any time, but I had what was a pretty good hand.

My point is...if you sit down at a table with other players, it'll quicly be apparent if you have nothing and are simply trying to bluff your way to the pot. It won't work. Have some courtesy for the other players that have legitimate hands that they are playing against the computer.

[Kidd]

Rofl, real people try to do this all the time, they think they are apart of the world championship poker tournament doing cool bluffs. Pay no attention to these clowns, I understand your frustration but simply fold and let him lose his gold. Personally with 2 pairs, and that many cpus still calling, I wouldn't have risked it at all. Pairs mean merely nothing in poker, as rare as it seems you get them, even 3 of a kind is utterly worthless sometimes. Examine the cards on the table and guestimate what the cpus could have, are there the right amount of cards there to be a flush for someone? =)


I would love to add you guys who play poker and just play some good friendly poker games each night at one of the pubs. It seems no one plays poker hardly at all, thats why I would like to start a poker group of sorts, after all my guild name is "Deadly Flush" for a reason. =) Give me a shout if you see me, my names are the following:
Kuro Kasumi (currently inactive)
Kidd McFury (Active)

Happy Poker playing my friends!

[Silly Princess]

HA that reminds me of the time I was playing along with the NPC's and this girl sits down, starts bidding and saying "I need you to fold" over and over...then her friend comes over and they're both saying it, and bidding and bidding.

Well, personally I'd rather lose some cash than buy into that baloney. I just kept bidding along also, since I had good cards and after a few rounds of this, without them winning, they finally left. They probably had a quest to win at poker and wanted the quick way out. Sorry but I don't play that way so you won't get a free ride from me!

The *cough*intelligence*cough* of some internet users is just amazing.

[Silver Beard]

Originally Posted by Silly Princess

HA that reminds me of the time I was playing along with the NPC's and this girl sits down, starts bidding and saying "I need you to fold" over and over...then her friend comes over and they're both saying it, and bidding and bidding.

Well, personally I'd rather lose some cash than buy into that baloney. I just kept bidding along also, since I had good cards and after a few rounds of this, without them winning, they finally left. They probably had a quest to win at poker and wanted the quick way out. Sorry but I don't play that way so you won't get a free ride from me!

The *cough*intelligence*cough* of some internet users is just amazing.

LOL yea...didn't you say in your blog someone did that and told yu that they where whatsis name? pro poker player. right? I would be *cough*more*cough* impressed if he said he was jesus(pro texas hold'em player) lol

[Silly Princess]

Originally Posted by Silver Beard

LOL yea...didn't you say in your blog someone did that and told yu that they where whatsis name? pro poker player. right? I would be *cough*more*cough* impressed if he said he was jesus(pro texas hold'em player) lol

Nope, lol....that was another time and the guy said he was an 80's rock star. I get all the nuts, trust me! rofl

[DrStinglock]

I havent seen much of this, but if its really a problem, jump to another ocean, ods of them finding you throughout all the oceans is pretty slim...

Still, if they try and bluff their way, all you need is a card up your sleeve or a decent hand and you will just take all their money..

I use that tactic against players and NPC's alike, nothing better than having half of your cash riding on how the hand plays out..

That kind of play style will end up in the player being very broke soon, or very rich soon.

Seriously, if eveyone else else matched the guy, its round over, he cant raise it anymore, clearly the NPC though they had a good hand and kept raising it, and you kept calling.

[DKpirate]

Originally Posted by Kidd

Personally with 2 pairs, and that many cpus still calling, I wouldn't have risked it at all. Pairs mean merely nothing in poker, as rare as it seems you get them, even 3 of a kind is utterly worthless sometimes. Examine the cards on the table and guestimate what the cpus could have, are there the right amount of cards there to be a flush for someone? =)

I hear you. However, I should have folded earlier and just let the other player get there hat handed to them by the computer. However, the computer players had a trend where they were betting high on any combination of two pairs, and I thought mine was good.

I had a good match going with a few other players the other night. Everyone won about the same. The computer rarely ever took the pot.

[DKpirate]

Originally Posted by DrStinglock

I havent seen much of this, but if its really a problem, jump to another ocean, ods of them finding you throughout all the oceans is pretty slim...

Still, if they try and bluff their way, all you need is a card up your sleeve or a decent hand and you will just take all their money..

I use that tactic against players and NPC's alike, nothing better than having half of your cash riding on how the hand plays out..

That kind of play style will end up in the player being very broke soon, or very rich soon.

Seriously, if eveyone else else matched the guy, its round over, he cant raise it anymore, clearly the NPC though they had a good hand and kept raising it, and you kept calling.

I haven't found the tactic to be effective unless you actually have some sort of hand. However, if you have nothing, the chances of it working are very, very slim.

I have no problem with people raising the pot, or even bluffing for that matter. However, in this situation, it was obvious what was going on. The player was simply trying to bluff the computer into submission. I may be too harsh, and it is possible she didn't notice I was there. She sure did get up and run awfully fast after the game was over though.

I also realize that I can find another game. However, I just find it rude when a player sits down at a table and completely disrupts a game like that. If the plan is to try and exploit the Computer's AI by bluffing it into submission, then the player should find a game that doesn't have any other players currently in it.

[Kidd]

Is it even possible to bluff the cpus into submission? All the times I have tried, they continue betting.

[Scarlet Hunter]

There is just one flaw in your logic. You would have lost the hand no matter what the bet was. Even if everybody had simply 'checked' throughout the entire game, you would have lost.

Personally, when I see 2 or more CPU players start matching each other with triple-digit raises, odds are they aren't bluffing.

[Kidd]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Hunter

There is just one flaw in your logic. You would have lost the hand no matter what the bet was. Even if everybody had simply 'checked' throughout the entire game, you would have lost.

Personally, when I see 2 or more CPU players start matching each other with triple-digit raises, odds are they aren't bluffing.

Wow I tend to fold when I see an NPC bet twice in a row after I called unless I have a good flush/four of a kind/royal flush. If I merely have a pair and he is double betting in a row, he isn't bluffing, trust me.

[DrStinglock]

Originally Posted by DKpirate

I also realize that I can find another game. However, I just find it rude when a player sits down at a table and completely disrupts a game like that. If the plan is to try and exploit the Computer's AI by bluffing it into submission, then the player should find a game that doesn't have any other players currently in it.

Ahh, now I see your point, yes, that behavior isn't appropriate with other players at the board.

On the same token, last night at Padres I managed to transfer over 2500g to a guild mate by just raising until they went all in, the AI folded, Then I folded.

Using this tactic is pretty lame, and id say the player had no idea what was going on. I'm still pretty disappointed at the amount of people I see on tables, I guess its the time-zone thing

[DKpirate]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Hunter

There is just one flaw in your logic. You would have lost the hand no matter what the bet was. Even if everybody had simply 'checked' throughout the entire game, you would have lost.

Personally, when I see 2 or more CPU players start matching each other with triple-digit raises, odds are they aren't bluffing.

You've completely missed the point. NOWHERE did I say I would have won the hand. I only said that I had a decent hand, and I stuck it out because I thought I had a good shot at winning.

The complaint is that another player with absolutely nothing attempted to bluff the computer into submission, which otherwise interfered with the game I was playing, and needlessly drove up the pot.

[DKpirate]

Originally Posted by DrStinglock

Ahh, now I see your point, yes, that behavior isn't appropriate with other players at the board.

On the same token, last night at Padres I managed to transfer over 2500g to a guild mate by just raising until they went all in, the AI folded, Then I folded.

Using this tactic is pretty lame, and id say the player had no idea what was going on. I'm still pretty disappointed at the amount of people I see on tables, I guess its the time-zone thing

Funny you should mention that. I was trying to figure out how to transfer some money to a guildmate so he could buy a better ship. Since you can't just give money to another player, I thought about trying to do it through the tables. I'm glad to hear it worked for you. I realize you have to be careful and not invest a ton of money in a game where the computer has a good chance to win.

[Captain Squid]

I have so much money, I dont know what else to do with it than waste it raising the pot making other pirate players suckered in to loose their loot! Just being a PIRATE!!! LOL