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08-09-2009, 04:18 AM
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NOW what it boils down to IS when reading a thread such as this we need to take in all angles of the advantage/disadvantage, violation, moral and tactical issues regarding this subject AND stop bickering the 'presumed' meaning of the TOS. When dealing with a section of the game as volatile as SVS can be, where pirates are overly keen to yell 'CHEAT' any time they are experiencing latency problems or any other benign oddity of which there are many in the game, we need to be clear on the every day common place opinions and componants of that game. BEING clear means we are being proactive in our gameplay so that we no longer need to feel we are 'fumbling around in the dark' harbouring resentful feelings or harassing/being harassed by others over A GAME. Please visit the motions thread for further reading regarding this subject and the move to resolve last weeks UNRESOLVED question, so that I can, along with others concerned about these prgs, decide whether or not to participate in TBC events. Maya Last edited by Dr. Zeppers; 08-09-2009 at 06:47 AM.. Reason: Removed trollish part of comment |
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08-09-2009, 04:31 AM
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Maya please stop, aparently you have moved this argument to a point where it doesn't even concern the initial issue at hand. Where you are at now with your discussion has nothing to do with this competition or TBC
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08-09-2009, 04:53 AM
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The out come of last weeks event was not part of the issue either, it was simply:
Reassure us that the events held under TBC will be fair FOR ALL. The tangents that this, as any thread, has taken are actually very valid too and obviously people DO have comments to add here on the subject. Clarification. Maya |
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08-09-2009, 05:20 AM
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Yes the lag would have been much better if I had Team Speak and crew had team speak. My point is I am at a disadvantage for removing from controls of the ship to whisper. I could be wrong ....dont feel like checking .....but from what I recall the use of any software to gain an advantage over an opponant in POTCO is a violation of the rules. I personally dont care if TS is being used, I just ask that it not be used in the contest so everyone else that uses it will be on a level playing field. If the decision is to keep it then I need another means of communicating with my crew because what happend last week was a disaster. I also was unaware of a screen shot to be taken place to see who was in what place. All I no is they said in privateer chat the contest was over so I ported. Now I have no points for week 2. So, lets just start over hehe. Davy ************************************************** ******** Quote:
JDanne, thats not a very constructable response to whats going on. Weather or not it is a violation I dont care, point is it is an advantage, this is a game, lets play with what disney gave us just one time....please, it is very difficult out there when you try to communicate with your team. I no I can go download this thing but I dont want to chance it. And again, it will likely do no good I no but if it is allowed we need to find another way for monitors to board the ship so we can crew our own crews and therefore communicate. I say lay these rules down and allow everyone a fair shot and start over. I have zero points because of the lack of communication on rules of the contest. I still had a blast and TY Phil for doing this. Lets just finalize the rules and start over and call that a trial run therefore I can have a chanceto get back in this thing. Davy Last edited by Sarah; 08-09-2009 at 05:29 AM.. Reason: Double Post |
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08-09-2009, 05:29 AM
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May I please remind all to abide by POF rules while posting. If you are not sure on those please read them there is a link to them in the main POF page.
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08-09-2009, 06:40 AM
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Make your groups decisions regarding passing of information in the game if you wish by all means, but Disney has this covered for you, why hassle it? If you are debating over whether or not to allow VOIP use in TBC events, then I recommend everyone consider some facts (further contemplation on how to apply the 3rd party application is not facts, only opinions, mine included). VOIP in itself does not warrant banning (per the games staff, since they are the governing body, going above them is unwarranted) (A member called and verified this). VOIP can give an advantage over teams/players not using it. (However, if all are free to use it, its a choice. Should some peoples choices dictate others choices?) VOIP has been used fairly in gaming for years and works well, it is not new technology, ive had it run behind my games with dialup! Those that do not want to use it, will often try to keep everyone from using it. (This is a fact drawn not from here, but from 10 years of experience in online game competing, they dont want to use it, and since others using it is an advantage, they want it taken away) Those that do use it, do not care if others choose to use it or not. (live and let live.. wonderful approach) How will you police it? How will you detect its use? How can you fairly apply any rule prohibiting it if you have no control, or power to make a valid conclusion? It just festers dissent in your court. I recommend it be a use if you want approach. If you feel you are at a disadvantage, then make use of it. Most teams using it would probably be happy to make you a channel and share if they could. It is not my intention to anger anyone, if I did so, my apologies. I have been around the block on this issue before however. To me, its water under the bridge. Seeing others struggle through it, I thought I would try to help. May TBC prosper...
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08-09-2009, 07:04 AM
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Ok I would first like to appoligize for not being at last weeks meeting as I am the rep of the Black Shark Inc. However I did participate in the SVS event.
"Any program that is used in pirates to gain an advantage of your opponant in any way is a violation of the rules." - I'd like for you folks who think its an advantage to please not how many times you sink us lol. Cause its a lot. A whole lot. "I WILL not be made to feel obliged to break DISNEY rules in order to keep up with the events on TBC" - I'm pretty sure that pirates can't make pirates do anything. "The motion put forward by TBC member Davy Burnrat seeking reassurance over the use of other prgs for voice and chat was prior to the event, at the time he like many thought it WAS a TBC event." - this issue was brought to the court by someone who isn't even a member>? "-Crews were talking in local which again a major cause of lag. " - seriously chat causes lag? I can't seem to understand why this is an issue. I don't have an issue with folks using. Cause from my position on the boat it isn't much of an advantage by far. If Roxy says its np then there is no use in kicking a dead horse. This can be debated for ever and never solved. This court is about having fun. Getting along. Setting a good example. Or at least that is how I understand it. I think what Phil did was great and again would like to invite those of you who think its an advantage to please take note on how much those that use it sink. Or come on board a ship. I'm sure you would be welcomed. Looking forward to seeing you all wednesday. WOOT WOOT Kate Keelmorgan Last edited by Sarah; 08-09-2009 at 11:41 AM.. Reason: Removed flaming sentence |
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08-09-2009, 07:11 AM
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Well maybe its time to speak up here...number one...i realize this is an open forum...and anyone can speak. Davy has brought this up, and he is not a member of the bretheren court...since his guild pretty much disolved he created his own....
Which he showed up at the court meeting as a member of his new guild which was not an approved guild. He then proceded to take the floor and and put this to the court?? How So?? Also if you check and watch us...(the Sharks) youll see that the vista clock glitch has been sinking us time after time.... P.S. So show me where having a voip helps you when the ships your shooting at isnt even where the computer says they are when they are clocked way ahead... Last edited by Dr. Zeppers; 08-10-2009 at 06:43 PM.. Reason: Flaming |
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08-09-2009, 07:42 AM
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BUT to stress: NO ONE IS TRYING TO GET ANYONE BANNED, that isnt about pirating either and all Im interested in is PIRATING. A REMINDER: Quote:
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The answer came back from TBC that whilst TBC would not condone the use of any method of violation of the DISNEY rules players are to use their own discretion as to whether they do use the prg which is the SUBJECT of he original question. This offered no reasurance to those concerned, so the onus was put upon those who were in need of reassurance in the first place. Inform us if the prgs will be used and let all decide whether or not to participate in TBC events so that we do not have to feel obliged to make any kind of violation or compromise our own security to compete in them. Maya Quote:
Since Davey motioned this point when he was still in a member guild and hopes that his own guild will be members also then your point is unfair and ungrounded. TBC does not support the accusations from one guild to another of any form of cheating please be reminded of The Brethren Court Codex : Article I, Section I, Paragraph I All guilds participating in the Brethren Court agree to be respectful to ALL guilds and guild mates represented by the alliance. Harassment and accusations against other guilds will not be tolerated. We are all here to work together for the benefit of all pirates looking to make a difference. AND ALSO Article I, Section II, Paragraph I Mates not respecting the Code will be subject to reprimand by their Guild Master, including Demotion, Suspension from the Guild or a BAN from the Guild depending on the severity of Disruption(s). TBC Maya Mara Keeper of the Court Last edited by Dr. Zeppers; 08-10-2009 at 11:15 PM.. Reason: Removed reference to edited post |
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08-09-2009, 07:52 AM
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maya
i think its time you drop this asd you have been going at it with me over a year now. now i have not nor has any member of my guild ever gave any info in game if we did we would not be in potco plane and simple. my members hgave been gameing for years and have been using voip for over 4 years. so its time you got over it and move on thank you |
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08-09-2009, 07:59 AM
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umm sorry but the day the meeting was held Davy was no longer a member of the heros...and had created the one he was on when speaking...
also was asked by someone...will have to look who... said that new guilds should be established before approved...think you said that the person quoting me... So that mean...that if i just show up and ask for the floor and roxanna says ok...that i can bring motions...even though im not in a member of the courts guild? |
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08-09-2009, 08:11 AM
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08-09-2009, 08:13 AM
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Ok then lets bring it to TBC events...as it has been brought into the court...by non court member guild about a private event held on tuesdays by another guild
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08-09-2009, 08:29 AM
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The Brethren Court Chair and Founder Roxanna who is leads the court by example granted permission for Davey to speak and it was appropriately motioned PRIOR to the meeting on the TBC forum here on POF. Roxanna has shown great temperance with TBC, I agree frustrations regarding this issue have gone way beyond my expectation, but please take confidence in that TBC is lead by some one who is fair to all equally. Maya Mara Keeper of the Court |
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