Guilds Under Attack?

[matthew]

this has just happened to me peeps 77 members were deleted and i was down to 41 im at nearly 60 this was a horrible thing to happen cause i was establishing order and the next day i figured out my system i was attack and there was no longer order

[Angel Seafish]

It would also help if it said this person removed this person. Then it is very obvious. I know in my guild Spartans Savvy, everyone is an officer so no one gets removed.

[James Bladefury]

I remembered a day on test server when Caribbean Warrior got destroyed, seems even trusted officers turn their backs on guildmasters.

[Matthew Sternrage]

Recently, Blue's Brigade had some members booted, and Guildmaster David Bluebellows thought of promoting every Member to Officer to protect everyone from being booted. I think we may have spies among us from other guilds trying to rule everyone. Be cautious mateys, they could be from the guilds were rivals to.

[Captain Del]

If I may make a suggestion to any and all guilds:

The a part of the spectrum of why guilds are put under attack, is due to conflicts with other guilds. Naturally, enemies want to take down their enemies, in false hope of "winning" the conflict.

Theres never a winner in a conflict, point and simple.

Guildmasters are betraying their own guilds if they drag them in to wars. They are creating a threat for their guild to be sought after to be destroyed. Inevitably, guilds that add wood to the fire of their conflicts, are only breeding their downfall.

Instead of forging guilds that are meant to fight other guilds, why can't we all just sit down and settle it peacefully? Theres never a need for fueds. Whenever I get angry at somebody for doing something/acting stupid, I take 5 seconds out of my life to take a deep breath and relax, which, in the end, saves countless hours of my life that would have revolved around arguments.

I'm certainly not saying that every crashing was the guild's fault, oh no no no. But what I am saying, is that no matter the cause, you should always stay at peace with yourself, and the rest of the world.

"Never has there been a good war or a bad peace."
—Benjamin Franklin

[Dog Firestack]

Wise words Del, wise words.

If I may make a suggestion to LOWER the possbility of this happening:

It's usually inevitiable you'll have guilds hate your guild if you've been around long enough. Why? Sometimes they think they deserve special treatment in their guild. Others are jealous of many hearing your guild so they just want to destroy it. No matter what you'll find a person who hates your guild for a silly reason.

Now to avoid the guild being destroyed set up organization. You do not just officer everybody you get. That builds no trust within your guild. You need to setup trust with your guild and make sure your officers can be trusted, make sure they watch the guild and look for anything suspicious rude behavior and etc.

When and why and how you officer your people is up to you. But remember to build trust up with your officers and guildmates. You can save alot of guild destructions this way.

Another way I believe is helpful is always is to establish all officers to look and watch guildmates. And see if they are possible officer choices. They can be very helpful later.

All in all, it's important to build trust, have organization and have a relationship with guild members and officers. The same should go with all members and officers as well.

The reason why some are destroyed is because of guild conflicts. Like Del said you're pretty much breeding your own destruction. Conflicts are not needed.

Create peace with and within your guild and happiness shall come. Wars cause anger and destruction. Nothing is gained but lost souls in there.

Create happiness within, wars not needed and a good relationship and these things can be avoided.

Remember bad seeds get in all the time, just throw 'em out as fast as you can!

[Bartholomew Foulsteel]

Originally Posted by Captain Del

I'm certainly not saying that every crashing was the guild's fault, oh no no no. But what I am saying, is that no matter the cause, you should always stay at peace with yourself, and the rest of the world.

This is called victim-focus. This is a method of telling the person who got mugged it was his fault for being in a bad neighborhood.

The real issue is this: regardless of how you try to stay nice, or deal diplomatically with other people and guilds, you never know when a single person or an entire guild is going to go nutso and take things waaaaaay out of the realm of playing a game and turn on other people. It's happened to BBK before, and it happened/is happening again. I'm sure it will happen again in the future. Not because of anything BBK does or stands for, but simply because others enjoy causing grief.

Sometimes, players and guilds who grief other players and guilds grow out of it. Sometimes not. But the fact that it happens merely means each guildmember and guildmaster had better be watching out--there are a LOT of very troubled people out there who truly enjoy drama and causing others distress.

[Ofury/ Tom]

Well i've never had any problems with other guilds i don't partake in these guild wars... But i have lost me some members a long time ago my head officer decided she wanted a guild of her own and left with about 100 members from my guild this could be a reason i only found this out from ppl that left and came back... This was way back long ago my new head officer wouldn't do such a thing.


I haven't been apart of these guild wars but i was attacked by a guild. I did not provoke them and neither did anyone from my guild. The reason for the attack was due that my members were seen hanging out with another guild i do some what think these "guild deleters" are after the bigger guilds on the game in order for personal gain.


You see with an idea to approve or deny would only cause a GM's work to double on top of settling member to member confrontations you have to find the stories behind the reason to delete someone i have agreed with all of my officers to never demote or delete anyone with a proper thought through it all i make sure it is fine with my top officers before a deletion or Demoting occurs unless Co Gm or Head officer have need to delete a disrespecting member. I would not like to have to approve or Deny i'd like to play pirates too not just deal with guilds all the time. don't take me wrong i enjoy working on my guild but that i think is way to much.



( you don't have to worry too much the guy i caught trying to delete my guild now works for me helping me check my officers before they become officers like their guild pasts -its his way of working off his debt to make it to member status he gave up after i caught him- hehe )

[Dog Firestack]

I must agree with Bartholomew here. No matter what you say, or what you do it is going to happen.

That one person is going to go crazy and start a whole scene which shouldn't be happening. It's a game for them so they sometimes don't take it seriously. Just learn to adapt to the situation and handle it.

[thedixielilly]

Yes, my friends, my guild was destroyed yesterday by a trusted officer. He deleted every member that was not an officer.

The bad thing about it is that we are in no guild wars. We help everyone and we have an officer selection process in place. The existing officers nominate candidates for officers from members that have proven themselves helpful and responsible to the guild and all other pirates. The the nomiatee is voted on by the officers. We only elect new officers for every 10 new members.

It is hearbreaking to think of all the work everyone did to build this guild to almost 200 strong.

The light at the end of the tunnel is that all my officers are now working their behinds off to find our lost family.

I wish there was some way this person could be punished for this. I have along with some of my officers submitted a complaint to Disney member services. But I don't think anything will really be done.


Tis a Sad Day

Skully
GM of Skully's Xbones

[titanic95594]

We been attacked for the past week in a guild I was in. We were noticing a big drop on members so us and the GM had to think quick so we made everyone officers so they all have equal power what seemed to work but he was still striking the new ones that havent been seen to be promoted to officer. Its a good thing disney is putting a member leaving alert. We did find the saboutuer thankfully. But theres always werid things going on all over the game.

[Bartholomew Foulsteel]

One of my suggestions to be able to rcover after a rogue officer deleting your members is to ensure that every new member is friended by an officer. That way, if deleting occurs, each officer can then contact the members they are responsible for and bring them right back in.

[Eliza Creststeel]

The new notice in test of who is removing whom mixed with the 5 removal a day limit will help.

I suggested once and will say again. Get a guild web site set up.

You can post news and warnings AND you can help regroup by having a non-Disney way to reach each other.

[Captain Del]

I agree with Eliza. Guild Sites are EXTREMELY helpful when it comes to getting stuff out to fellow members. I also suggest maybe specifying a certain server/place that all the members can meet up, in the possibility of a crashing.

And just a build on of what I said last time. Nowhere did I say all crashings deal with conflicts, nor did I say that it was ever the victim's fault. I simply said that it isn't smart to start problems with other guilds. As I stated in my own words, its "a part of the spectrum."

Case and point, crashings happen for many reasons. Sometimes, two guilds are fighting with each other send out sleep cells of sorts. Other times, troublesome pirates pick a random guild, and crash it for fun. That's why a strong, stable system in your guild is so important to ensure survival.

[Jibby]

This sounds terrible, although it's never happened to the guild I'm in, it makes me sad to think people go out of their way to bully others.