Retraining Guide

[Sven Osymthe]

Nice tips everyone. The only thing I'm really gonna comment on is, what people consider to be "cheap" in PvP.

Nothing is really cheap in PvP, because everyone has the option to unlock that skill. I don't really like when people use the dagger skills (it makes me lag for some reason), or a broadsword (requires absolutely no aim, you just have to be near the opponent), but I deal with it. Those that do complain about it, I've noticed that they don't have a problem until they realize they're losing.

Some ppl think max Hack is like Dagger's asp coz of the slow effect, which some ppl consider cheap too, just a warning.

Every combo for the sword has this effect. People don't really pay attention to that though, simply because hack is the first attack.

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PvP has really changed in the past few years. I used to PvP a lot, however due to the constant complaining (I avoid using "cheap" moves - unless they use them) I've limited myself to just friends. Some of the complaints now are just ridiculous.. someone accused me of "speeding" (after they fixed it), just because I killed them

[Angel Daggerfury]

Originally Posted by Dog Firestack

Brawl deserves a point, because you aren't going to be PvPing a ton of "expert criticizers" in PvP

lol aww wasn't trying to come off as a ciriticizer tone, just saying what ppl usually say about it, i dont use any cheap stuff unless ppl do it to me first, but i do gotta say i dislike ppl who got max brawl =O

Originally Posted by Sven Osymthe

Nice tips everyone. The only thing I'm really gonna comment on is, what people consider to be "cheap" in PvP.

Nothing is really cheap in PvP, because everyone has the option to unlock that skill. I don't really like when people use the dagger skills (it makes me lag for some reason), or a broadsword (requires absolutely no aim, you just have to be near the opponent), but I deal with it. Those that do complain about it, I've noticed that they don't have a problem until they realize they're losing.



Every combo for the sword has this effect. People don't really pay attention to that though, simply because hack is the first attack.

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PvP has really changed in the past few years. I used to PvP a lot, however due to the constant complaining (I avoid using "cheap" moves - unless they use them) I've limited myself to just friends. Some of the complaints now are just ridiculous.. someone accused me of "speeding" (after they fixed it), just because I killed them

Yes, ppl who use broadsword in pvp r totally annoying coz they get angry when u urself use broadsword against them *rolls eyes* i remember when at first the only cheap moves were brawl & throw dirt, & then all the sudden having too many pts on asp is considered cheap by some so blah. i'm someone who used to have max asp, but i retrained & now i dont think any of my pirates got more than 1 pt on asp. agreeing to pvp with only cutlass seems to solve most problems with ppl who also complain about fast switching *uber rolls eyes*.

What I meant by the slow effect on attacks is that max hack is like 1 pt on asp coz they both have 6 second slow duration. It isn't noticable when u only have like 3 second slow duration (what 1 pt on any sword attack is), 2 pts on sword is still 3 seconds, isnt until 3 pts on sword then its 4 sec slow, then 4 pts is 5 sec slow, and 5 pts max is 6 sec slow.

I used to pvp a lot, way too much drama (worse than svs's drama i think lolol) even had one pirate in top 100 overall leaderboard for pvp mayhem 2 years ago before all the boards got messed up, even back then ppl were complaining that I was skipping too much *rolls eyes* before speeding was even brought into the game, i've never speeded ever on that game. even when they used brawl on me they still couldnt win rofl

[Jibby]

Well Angel, even if players consider moves, skills and even whole weapons cheap and unfair in PVP, if it has a good setup for it's intended use, the probability of it staying, is 100%. Also, I disagree with Conservation being not needed with max concentration, since while the Flaming Skull's 120 Voodoo doesn't seem to much, in a big fight you could use that a lot, and while concentration would cover that, why not give less to cover?

And on the cutlass, hack or slash aren't ever getting my vote for a second point because of the minute amounts of damage they do, cleave does better than slash and hack when they're all maxed, but not combined. So Hack's slow duration is okay, but chug a swift foot III before PVP to run around and stuff, I don't want to be putting an extra point in hack if the damage goes from 40 to 42.