This is so much harder (and will the staff be pointless now?) - Pirates of the Caribbean Online Fansite & Forums

Plunderin Mom · #1 12-21-2007, 05:13 PM

I had been mastering all of the weapons that I thought would be more difficult first. Saved mastering staff and doll until last. Well, I've sure messed things up for myself by waiting to level the staff. What would have been a breeze before the update is now proving very difficult.

It's bad enough that we're getting fewer points per kill than we were getting yesterday, but the real problem is that you cant target more than one enemy at a time unless they're green or gray, and then you get almost no experience points for them. Trying to find yellow level enemies (and only for around 20pts per kill depending on the skill used!) is very difficult. And when you do find one, chances are there will be other things attacking at the same time. Trying to kill a red level enemy is almost impossible without using tonics or dieing, unless you kill it quick for few experience points. Might as well kill the greens and yellows.

I havent been to Kingshead yet, but Im sure leveling with the group of soldiers in the field (for almost no experience points if your weapon is over level 20) will be out of the question now, even at levels 30 - 40 notoriety, unless you have at least one person there healing you.

Anyway, it looks like the staff will be useless (for killing several higher level enemies at a time) unless you have a good healer or two with you. You can still use it to kill one enemy at a time with relative ease, but we can do that with any weapon.

I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. On one hand I'm glad the game will be more difficult to play. I think it was too easy before. And I don't really mind that healers will be needed more. But, I do wish we were getting the same experience points we were used to getting, especially since its more difficult to get them.

***Chris*** · #2 12-21-2007, 05:20 PM

i think POTCO should have kept the rep points they way they were

CoolLittleJ_ · #3 12-21-2007, 07:27 PM

The Staff can still be used to take out SEVERAL enemies at once..I don't know where you got that from..
~CLJ

Hile · #4 12-21-2007, 08:18 PM

I think leveling was too easy. God forbid they challenge us! :O

Plunderin Mom · #5 12-21-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolLittleJ_

The Staff can still be used to take out SEVERAL enemies at once..I don't know where you got that from..
~CLJ

Yesterday I could go into The Catombs of Padre Del Fuego, alone, and draw all of the enemies to my character with the staff (often inculding several 30 plus level enemies as well as a few more in the 20 to t29 range and some less than 20 levels), and kill them all using only the whither skill, and usually without needing a tonic and get 150 to 200 exp pts each time.

Today I walked in, doing the same thing I did yesterday and found myself in jail before I could even hit the T for tonic. So, now I'm back to killing one enemy at a time, as with most of the other weapons, targeting green and yellow enemies for only 10 to 20 points.

Sure, you might be able to kill several enemies at the same time, but you better do it quick, and if there are more than one in the red level range you're probably still going to need someone to heal you, because you'll be taking damage from the others in the group as well, instead of only from those higher level enemies.

I suppose this is mostly an issue if you're trying to level, and want to kill them more slowly for more experience points. Either way, killing a group of enemies is much more difficult now, and especially if some of them are red level enemies.

And like I said before, I dont really mind all of that so much. But I do mind getting fewer points for it.

Speedway Master · #6 12-21-2007, 08:44 PM

Grenades and staff didn't give much points before. Now this is rediculous.

Eliza Shipwrecker · #7 12-21-2007, 08:50 PM

I went to jail four times in a row from Kingshead today, trying to use my staff and grenades in the field, just to see what the differences were in rep points were.

Before with the staff, using just wither, I got 3-4 rep per soldier. Now it's 2-3 rep and you lose a bunch of your health. And don't step off to the side and wait for it to go back up, because any little lvl 11 Sargeant walking by can finish you off.

I also used to use desolation for the first hit and wither to finish them, and could get 9-12 rep points per soldier. Now I can't hit tonic fast enough to keep from dying!

Grenades are even worse. Now once the soldiers start chasing you, you're taking hits the whole way. And not just from the soldier in front, but from all of them, even though none of them should be able to reach you. I don't even know how many rep points because I couldn't get through without dying - my tonic doesn't recharge fast enough.

Ironhawk · #8 12-22-2007, 07:15 AM

It's already hard for me to work on my grenades now they lower the rep
point i don't think i will work on my grenade anymore.
Being a high level pirate also useless now to help other like searching
crates for their grenade quest in kingshead because we might
get killed ourselves.
And healer pirate helping a friend in battle won't get rep point
anymore when the enemy is defeated.

And has anyone tried to win the 'newly improved' boss battle in test?
My friend tried it 7 times and always died. He never reached the 4th bridge.

And the most annoying thing from this 'update' is we DON'T get gold or
treasure anymore from any enemies.
We can only get gold from plundering ship now.

So it seems that they try to make this game harder and harder
and think that it's fun for us to go to jail 20 times a day.
No thank you, if they don't change this i think
i will just find another online game.

PixiePirate · #9 12-22-2007, 08:40 AM

I agree. This game is more of a chore now instead of "fun." Ugh I am having to make myself play (to justify spending the money on it). I keep saying it will get better. All the while it keeps getting worse.

Sorry to be so negative!

Thenelly · #10 12-22-2007, 09:23 AM

Yeah its a pain at the moment.

Yesterday i could relaxed work on my weapons in Padres behind El Sudorno switching between grenades, dagger (using Asp, Sidewinder, Adder and getting alot of rep), gun (using lead shot).

Today i had very hard times when being attacked by several grey leveled enemies and a red one. Using my dagger's throwing skills would mean end up in jail in 5min. Same for voodoo staff which should load faster or you dont stand a chance against a L33 grenadier and some L20.
So i ran out of tonics quite fast and had to go back to get new ones alot.
All this made it more a pain to level up than its fun.

I even found myself in jail when i came back after being 5min afk. Killed by the giant crabs at Tormenta beach. Fancy that!

Sarah · #11 12-22-2007, 09:56 AM

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And has anyone tried to win the 'newly improved' boss battle in test?
My friend tried it 7 times and always died. He never reached the 4th bridge.

Oh grand....what sort of "fixes" did they do to that??

CoralBliss · #12 12-22-2007, 10:37 AM

Has anybody noticed that you don't get any gold or items from killing things any more? I've reported this as a bug, but have only had a standard reply so far. Since this is the main way of getting gold (apart from sea battles) and the only way of getting certain treasure items, I am sure the developers didn't mean this to have happened.

CoralBliss · #13 12-22-2007, 12:54 PM

I really hate the change involving lower level characters now being able to inflict damage. It's not nearly as fun this way. I want to target enemies at a level higher than me, now I have to fight through all the lower level characters before I can do this. Please change it back to how it was. Please stop making changes that ruin the game!

Plunderin Mom · #14 12-22-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhawk

XBeing a high level pirate also useless now to help other like searching
crates for their grenade quest in kingshead because we might
get killed ourselves.

You know whats gonna happen? Out of necessity, the doll is going to quickly become the only weapon used in many areas of the game, because many of the quests that we used to be able to do alone will require assistance now. But, now, even the helpers will need to be attuned and healed too.

Eliza Shipwrecker · #15 12-22-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CoralBliss

Has anybody noticed that you don't get any gold or items from killing things any more? I've reported this as a bug, but have only had a standard reply so far. Since this is the main way of getting gold (apart from sea battles) and the only way of getting certain treasure items, I am sure the developers didn't mean this to have happened.

If you can't get anything from enemies, what's the point of the treasure quests? Tia's Menagerie and the Treasure Chess ones you're supposed to get from the undead, the Navy medals you're supposed to get from soldiers. Can you no longer collect the treasures?