Can you even get to 50?

[swashbuckler II]

Basil, 49-50 Is 65900 rep, unless it changed

[Basil Dreadflint]

TY, Swash. It was a guess. I've updated the post to reflect the actual number.

[CaptainGreenGene]

43 = 47,300
44 = 49,700

[Captain Seafarer CO.]

I saw two level 50s yesterday, both were fully mastered on ALL weapons as well, meaning at the new level 30!. I dont recall their names but their guilds were "The savvy" and "X-jumper" the latter was a founder.

[Basil Dreadflint]

Originally Posted by CaptainGreenGene

43 = 47,300
44 = 49,700

Thanks. List updated, and now complete.

[CaptainGreenGene]

Well I started this thread weeks ago asking the question "can you even get to 50?"
What I have found is that you can get to 50 and with very little difficulty, all you need is time. Unfortunately for me I have been ill and home from work for weeks. All I had was time so this could not have been more easy. Here are some helpful tips to make the grind go faster.

1) Use your doll and heal everyone. Be nice and offer to heal anyone who is around. You can heal many players at once and while they are doing the hard work you can gain valuable reps healing them. Be sure to have tonics so that if you slip up you can revive them. You can also use your doll to heal yourself. Attack with any weapon and then switch to doll and use life drain then switch back to another weapon and continue. Since you get reps even when mastered its both practical in saving you tonics and gets you more reps then just using one weapon.

2) Battle the Bosses. They give some of the best reps and allow you to switch off weapons to get multiple weapons trained at the same time. For the boss stump on outcast take a friend and let them heal you for great reps. Its win win and you can get over 400 reps a stump there.

3) Choose quiet servers. Competing with other players for the best spots is a waste of time. Find a nice quiet spot and with a few guildmates you can bang out great reps with very nice crew reps to boot.

4) Sail with a small crew. Sailing takes time and so does cannons. Sail with players that understand to only use heavy ammo on the sails and to use light ammo on the ship to maximize the reps. All you need is one cowboy using fury on everything to ruin your reps every time.

5) Play at night. The game runs so much better in the late hours of the night. During the day its laggy and esp now when school gets out things slow down noticeably.

6) Find Game Flaws. At first this sounds like a cheat but hear me out. When you used to train your nades behind the fence at Kingshead you were taking advantage of a game flaw. There are many similar flaws that you can use to your advantage. Remember Darkhart is a raider and if you stand just far enough from him he will not attack you. You can stand right in the doorway of the gate to his left and you can nade, shoot and staff him to your hearts content. I have done that for hours with great success and absolute safety. You don't need to cheat to get to 50 all you need is time.

[Bartholomew Foulsteel]

Good info. I like the Undead Timothy Dartan nowadays for leveling. You can whack him quickly with whatever weapon you are focusing on, get 100+ points, and when he's down, run over to the low level raider right nearby and life drain ol' Bonesy. Yer all healed up and Dartan's back! You can (I suspect) get more reps this way in a shorter period because he dies quickly and respawns quickly. Since he uses voodoo you can stand far away and nade him or get up close and personal. A healer is nice, but not necessary.

You also don't have to be concerned that you are taking advantage of a glitch to level, since he will attack you the entire time. You can use daggers to break attunement, as well as throwing dirt or eating his voodoo away with Hex Shot. He just seems to be a good way of training everything with good results that you don't have to feel iffy about.

[Basil Dreadflint]

I still believe that getting to 50 this way is due to a BUG. Rep should not be given for using a mastered weapon. No rep was ever given after weapon level 25 on the way to Noto level 40. Taking all weapons and skills to level 30 from level 25 should only earn you 248,000 rep. Then all rep earning should stop.

It takes 538,000 rep to get Noto from 40 to 50. Mastering the weapons should only get you to level 46.

I believe that the fact that people are still earning rep from fully maxed out weapons is due to an accident in the programming. I have reported this BUG on both open and test. Disney intended for people to to work their weapons up, but still need the next story chapter in order to fully master. I will bet that, when it is finally released, the next story chapter plus some new side quests, give about 300K in rep, and that is where the difference should be.

I congratulate anyone who has the patience to make 50 by continuing to grind the weapons well beyond level 30, but I also feel that they are getting there by taking advantage of a flaw in the programming. They will miss out on the natural progression to the higher levels that others will accomplish by using the rep from the future quests.

With 4 level 40 pirates all waiting for this release, I'm in no hurry to get them to 50 and be sitting around with nothing to do. Been there, done that, for more than a year.

[Dr. Zeppers]

Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

I still believe that getting to 50 this way is due to a BUG. Rep should not be given for using a mastered weapon. No rep was ever given after weapon level 25 on the way to Noto level 40. Taking all weapons and skills to level 30 from level 25 should only earn you 248,000 rep. Then all rep earning should stop.

It takes 538,000 rep to get Noto from 40 to 50. Mastering the weapons should only get you to level 46.

I believe that the fact that people are still earning rep from fully maxed out weapons is due to an accident in the programming. I have reported this BUG on both open and test. Disney intended for people to to work their weapons up, but still need the next story chapter in order to fully master. I will bet that, when it is finally released, the next story chapter plus some new side quests, give about 300K in rep, and that is where the difference should be.

I congratulate anyone who has the patience to make 50 by continuing to grind the weapons well beyond level 30, but I also feel that they are getting there by taking advantage of a flaw in the programming. They will miss out on the natural progression to the higher levels that others will accomplish by using the rep from the future quests.

With 4 level 40 pirates all waiting for this release, I'm in no hurry to get them to 50 and be sitting around with nothing to do. Been there, done that, for more than a year.

I agree Basil, the gaining of reps on mastered weapons contradicts the normal game play that had been established, and normally used in MMORGs. I think this will be removed at some time. If its not flat out a bug, it was Disney's ways of stifling all the high levels from complaining about having no means to hit level 50 (prior to new story quests/content).

[CaptainGreenGene]

I don't think its important to worry about what Disney is thinking at the moment. The fact is that you can, indeed make it to 50 regardless of personal preference to play and personal feelings about how you may want to level. I think its great that you can get there and its a blast having all the extra skill points to play around with. Its also nice to have the ability to fight very high level enemies without fear of dying. There isn't a darn thing that can kill a well trained level 50 any more. When the new quest line comes out it should be a piece of cake to get through. What a pleasure it will be not having to worry about finishing old quests to get to the new one. As for getting bored, I have 6 other level 40 pirates to play slow with so there is plenty to do and lots of time to do it.

[MacIronhawk]

I agree Basil, but there's not really anything we can do about people taking advantage of the rep given after level 30. I think, though, that once Disney fixes this BUG, they'll take all the rep earned after level 30 weapons so that being a level 50 is impossible until the second story quest comes out.

If I were Disney, I'd do that, because it's unfair for other pirates that couldn't take advantage of the BUG to get to fifty. Besides, if it's supposed to be impossible, using the flaw to your advantage is just silly. You're earning "fake" rep. Using this flaw isn't going to make the second story quest fun either, because you'll fly by it. What's the point in being able to rush through a quest when you'll just have to wait another year(or more) for the next one?

[James]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

I agree Basil, but there's not really anything we can do about people taking advantage of the rep given after level 30. I think, though, that once Disney fixes this BUG, they'll take all the rep earned after level 30 weapons so that being a level 50 is impossible until the second story quest comes out.

If I were Disney, I'd do that, because it's unfair for other pirates that couldn't take advantage of the BUG to get to fifty. Besides, if it's supposed to be impossible, using the flaw to your advantage is just silly. You're earning "fake" rep. Using this flaw isn't going to make the second story quest fun either, because you'll fly by it. What's the point in being able to rush through a quest when you'll just have to wait another year(or more) for the next one?

I think it should be up to you whether you want to get to lvl 50 by quests or weapon leveling. I, personally, like leveling weapons so I'm glad they made it so they still give rep.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by James

I think it should be up to you whether you want to get to lvl 50 by quests or weapon leveling. I, personally, like leveling weapons so I'm glad they made it so they still give rep.

Do you know they wanted it this way, or whether this is just a huge bug that's taking them some time to fix?

Unless Disney gives us proof that this isn't a bug, we can disclose this as a bug, because we couldn't get rep for mastered weapons before.

[Dr. Zeppers]

I never meant anything towards anyone using the feature of reps after mastering weapons, just agreed I dont believe it was intentional, and if it was, I dont think permanent. I see that POTCO hasnt answered any questions about it after having it reported numerous times.

Its of no matter... its good there is a way. Plunder hard pirates!

[Sven Niscadae]

Looks like it was intentional. Would be nice if Disney could include all changes in the release notes.

http://piratesonline.go.com/#/news_b..._other_updates

Originally Posted by Disney

Weapons are now mastered at Level 30, but once you reach that level Pirates can still earn reputation towards their overall Notoriety meter.