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Old 03-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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Question What to do with the Dagger?

Hey all, time for me to stop lurking.

Getting ready to level my Dagger skills, and I guess my problem is that I'm not sure just what they're useful for. Finesse and Blade Instinct get 5/5 obviously, 1/5 in Throw Dirt, then...what? Seems like the Cutlass does melee better, and the Pistol does range better (unless you really need to throw something at Navy peeps). From a strictly PvE perspective, what do you all find most useful to put the rest of the Dagger points in?

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Old 03-28-2008, 09:43 PM
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i put 2 in dirt throw, which by my timing..effectively keeps em blind through the duration of a fight as it recharges the moment it wears off.

as for the dagger throws, obviously vipers nest is powerful and useful for multiple foes maxxed but offset by its slow recharge even with finesse.

im not sure about the other throws, sidewinder is decent..with a balance between power and recharge times, but like you i rely on the cutlass for raw power attacks so may focus my points purely on the throwing skills,

my debate though is, what ones would be more useful long term? is the first 2 throws, adder asp i think..even worth boosting? or just dumped straight into maxxing one high level throw? or spreading a few between the last 2 (viper and sidewinder)
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Old 04-05-2008, 04:25 PM
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Alright, so here's the best I came up with.

Cut-1
Swipe-1
Finesse-5
Blade Instinct-5
Asp-1
Adder-1
Throw Dirt-2
Sidewinder-5
Viper's Nest-5

Giving up on melee dagger altogether and will focus on maxing both high-end throws. 1 in Asp and Adder should help me level too.
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Old 04-05-2008, 04:30 PM
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Dont forget about the passives on the bottom. Faster Dagger and cutlass recharge time. I dont remember what the other ones are and frankly i'm too exhausted to go look. But definitely look into the bottom!!
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:11 PM
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i put 3 skill points on each combo skill
definately put 5 points on the two passives..
maxx vipers nest and put a couple of points on sidewinder BUT NO POINTS ON ASP OR ADDER
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Dont forget about the passives on the bottom. Faster Dagger and cutlass recharge time. I dont remember what the other ones are and frankly i'm too exhausted to go look. But definitely look into the bottom!!
Finesse and Blade Instinct, got 'em covered, thanks.

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i put 3 skill points on each combo skill
definately put 5 points on the two passives..
maxx vipers nest and put a couple of points on sidewinder BUT NO POINTS ON ASP OR ADDER
I'm not putting any points on combo skills (that's what my cutlass is for), so I can max the passives, Viper's Nest, and Sidewinder, AND put one each on Asp and Adder.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:15 PM
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I dont know I have to say that if hes workin for the long run where you can get max reps, I do from using throws 1, 2 and 3 and a bit of 4. on a lvl 30 stump I was able to get 110 reps in crew using nothing but throws. Then again, I do my builds for future reps when its hard to get anything when ur bigger.
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I only put only two points in Finesse. I may put one more in later.

The first point gives you a 5% reduction.
The second gives you 4%.
The third gives 3%.
I'm assuming the final two give 2% and 1%.

So for two points, I have a 9% reduction. Spending the three extra points would only get me to 15%.

Once I master, I may put more if I can't find someplace else, but i could see a point of diminishing returns.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:42 PM
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finesse is 18% maxxed.

worth it?

probably for me..as i love the cutlass skills, and while leveling, ive found it easy to get the high reps by being able to use the certain skills faster (taunt, dirt etc)
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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Ah, ok. The last two must give you 3% each. That's not as bad.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:52 PM
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Since I was new to this game when I had my cutlass, I kinda of messed up my skill built for that. So when I got my dagger I made it my main offensive weapon,

I have

1 point on the 1st combo (default)
5 points on the 3rd and 4th combo
5 points on the last two throw skills
5 points on blade instinct

Even though overall cutlass may do more damage, I feel dagger is a more balanced weapon, by the way I feel it swings faster than the cutlass and my built only has 3 steps for combo so you can get to the high damage ones really quick and really quick repeatedly.

Also the 2 throw skills are great to be used in conjuction with the combo.

And dagger just looks wicked and has wicked slashing sound instead of the cutlass' metal clanking noise when you use it. I can not stand that sound.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:48 PM
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