POTC 4 spoiler alert

[Pirate Guy]

the movie is about Jack , Barbossa , Black beard try to find the fountain of youth. Will and Elizabeth are not coming back because they are insignificant to the plot.

Black beard is introduced because Barbossa wasn't thought to be mean enough so black Beard is gonna be really mean

[Tiberius Fireskull]

My official pre-review of the move: It will stink. Will Turner is by far my favorite character, and when I found out he wasn't coming back, obviously I was horribly disappointed. And Blackbeard? Really? This is pirates of the Caribbean with Jack Sparrow, Hector Barbossa, Jack the Monkey, Will Turner, and Elizabeth Swann (Turner now), NOT Blackbeard. Seriously? The fountain of youth? I dont like it already. Not piratey enough.

The movie is going to stink, but I will probably go see it anyway.

[Chimera Doll]

Aww, I'm gonna miss Will and Elizabeth but I'm super excited for Blackbeard. I also heard it has to do with him and his daughter looking for the fountain of youth if I am not mistaken.

[Kraken Guard]

No Davy Jones, No Jolly Roger, No watching the movie for me..

[PirateMoreno]

I can't wait to see it! As pirates we are always up for new adventures and Jack is always looking for new ways to be immortal and be known as the greatest pirate ever. I do wish Jolly Roger was in but Im super excited to see the new movie!!

[The Skirata Clan]

The thing that kept magic of the film was the lack of Real Pirates. The third POTC had flags of real pirates in the Calypso sequence. That was really great! But we never saw the actual pirates. And Blackbeard's Queen Anne's was there.

[Midhav]

Originally Posted by The Mandalorian - Skirata

The thing that kept magic of the film was the lack of Real Pirates. The third POTC had flags of real pirates in the Calypso sequence. That was really great! But we never saw the actual pirates. And Blackbeard's Queen Anne's was there.

No actually Skirata, I have to correct you. The flag which was seen of Edward Teach's, before the Maelstrom segment, was that of Eduardo Villuenelva. Queen Anne's Revenge did NOT appear for the Maelstrom. In the 4th Pirates Movie, the story of Blackbeard will be set many years after Ocracoke inlet, saying that he somehow survived the incident, and had a daughter named Angelica (whom he brought up in the Inlet). Now out of aging, he searches for the Fountain of Youth with the help of his daughter.

Originally Posted by Kraken Guard

No Davy Jones, No Jolly Roger, No watching the movie for me..

Well if it were Curse of the Black Pearl till now, and if they said that Davy Jones were to come in the next PotC film, you'd say the same about Hector Barbossa not being there LOL. You'll just have to wait for the 4th movie and see... They're going to make a NASTY villain out of Blackbeard, according to Jerry Bruckhemier.

This movie is going to be great because it takes a new direction since the previous trilogy. People all across the world did not INITIALLY like the third one. Neither did I. The third one has a good repeat-viewing quality which is one thing AWESOME about it. You ca see it again and again to configure through the complexities of the plot. IMO it's my third fav film of all time
But this 4th movie will probably revive the magic of PotC for FIRST-TIME viewers, or people who want to give the series a second chance. I hope it plays a precursor to a new trilogy.

[Chimera Doll]

Originally Posted by Midhav

This movie is going to be great because it takes a new direction since the previous trilogy. People all across the world did not INITIALLY like the third one. Neither did I. The third one has a good repeat-viewing quality which is one thing AWESOME about it. You ca see it again and again to configure through the complexities of the plot. IMO it's my third fav film of all time
But this 4th movie will probably revive the magic of PotC for FIRST-TIME viewers, or people who want to give the series a second chance. I hope it plays a precursor to a new trilogy.

Finally someone who agrees with me that it will be great. I agree completely with everything you said.
Although I might miss Elizabeth and Will, there would be no point having them in this movie.
Plus new characters are added and it's nice to see the movies going in a different direction.

I am super excited to see it - especially to see how mean Blackbeard will be...he might be a new favorite of mine.

[The Skirata Clan]

Originally Posted by Midhav

No actually Skirata, I have to correct you. The flag which was seen of Edward Teach's, before the Maelstrom segment, was that of Eduardo Villuenelva. Queen Anne's Revenge did NOT appear for the Maelstrom.

The Queen Anne's Revenge Is in the film. Let me find a a pic of the flag then you can re-watch the movie so you can spot it.

[Kraken Guard]

Originally Posted by Midhav

Well if it were Curse of the Black Pearl till now, and if they said that Davy Jones were to come in the next PotC film, you'd say the same about Hector Barbossa not being there LOL. You'll just have to wait for the 4th movie and see... They're going to make a NASTY villain out of Blackbeard, according to Jerry Bruckhemier.

I dont care if Blackbeard will be a nasty villain. It's not going to be the same! I've said it before and i'll say it again: The reason why people hate sequels so much is because they lack the original villain(Even though Jolly Roger and Davy Jones weren't in the first movie). For me, when Davy Jones died, so did the trilogy. Davy Jones was Pirates of the Caribbean to me

Dont care about Beckett though. He was flatter then flat.


Same goes for Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann.. They wont be in the movie, it is not going to be the same. Same also goes for Pintel and Regetti, even though im not sure if they will return or not (I read that they wont)

[Chimera Doll]

I understand how it's not gonna be the same and I totally get why people are not gonna like that...but the positive side is it won't be the same old same old. Change can be a good thing, and I'm overall glad it will be different since Will and Elizabeth's story is over with. At least that is what I have read.

Also, Blackbeard's daughter Angelica is defiantly going to be in the movie. For an official movie site, check out Internet Movie Database. She is listed on there, therefore I know it's official.

[Midhav]

Originally Posted by Kraken Guard

I dont care if Blackbeard will be a nasty villain. It's not going to be the same! I've said it before and i'll say it again: The reason why people hate sequels so much is because they lack the original villain(Even though Jolly Roger and Davy Jones weren't in the first movie). For me, when Davy Jones died, so did the trilogy. Davy Jones was Pirates of the Caribbean to me

Dont care about Beckett though. He was flatter then flat.


Same goes for Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann.. They wont be in the movie, it is not going to be the same. Same also goes for Pintel and Regetti, even though im not sure if they will return or not (I read that they wont)

Aye many people have different ways of starting a series, and as for you it was with Davy Jones (though most people would go for Jack-Will-Liz-Hector lol). Davy Jones was definitely a character I could connect with, and the only villain I have done so with (other than Barbossa). He was tyranny as a result of a tragic love, and when he died saying "Calypso", I myself asked my father whether he was coming back, and that's how sad I felt for him... and like you said, comparatively Beckett is a flat character. I HATED Beckett when i saw the movie the first time... For how he treated Jones.

Now saying that, let me come to the reason why I like Beckett. He was flat, yes, he was a character who I didn't even feel sad about. When his death scene came I just said "Ooh mesmerizing C.G.I." and probably "I hope he's learned his lesson". Beckett was this character who was sadistic, narcissistic, and who possessed a genocidal hate of pirates which resulted in him destroying all men, women and children who were convicted of associating with piracy. He didn't care for the lives of anyone around him and he was always this mysterious character. Mysterious because, when you look at him his face is just blankly staring at you, trying to take up Machiavellian ways of manipulation. He was meant to signify the darkness of Imperialism and his manipulation which made him control the seas was just evil. And evil because it was 1. just for good business and 2. for eradication of people he just despised for no particular reason (some history to that). Also, his lines... his lines were AMAZING. How he handled situations was said in his lines, and if you looked at his lines a bit closer you can see something else intended. For example that scene, where Liz threatens Cutler with a pistol... He clearly stated that he knew about what happened in Isla de Muerta the previous year and that was something really strange. "Ah, I see. You think the compass leads only to the Isla de Muerta, and so you hope to save me from an evil fate. But you mustn't worry: I care not for cursed Aztec gold, my desires are not so provincial. There's more than one chest of value in these waters…So perhaps you may wish to enhance your offer." He knew about the Curse of Cortes and the Dead Man's Chest of all things. When the film came I expected him to cower in fear at the sight of the King of the Seas, but he in fact reduced Jones to tears. And in Pirates Online, he made a multinational company join hands with a leader of Undead pirates who swarmed the Caribbean, and betrayed him when he saw the right time for it, even snubbing the Casa's efforts to destroy the Company. I treat Beckett as one of my favourite villains, because other than this, he was like... Lex Luthor? A man limited to his small human body, and powerful mind, to control over something FAR bigger. He and the Joker are a tie in my top villains. Lord Cutler Beckett symbolizing Imperialism, Industrailization and Tyranny. The Joker signifies Anarchy, Philosophy and pure madness. The exact opposites. They have one thing in common though- Psychological Manipulation. They both lie below my all time favourite Dark Lord - Sauron. Maybe even below Emperor Palpatine. You like Maleficent don't you? I somehow found your page on Youtube. Maleficent was someone I was really awed and scared about 10 years ago when I was 5-ish.

But coming back to Pirates of the Caribbean. For me Pirates is about... Jack Sparrow and Hector Barbossa.... Lord Beckett, Davy Jones, Sao Feng, Will-Liz (okay, I don't hate them), James Norrington, Guv Swann... They're just one of those characters who'll come and go... It's only about Jack and Hector to me. But I shouldn't forget Gibbs and Pintel-Ragetti (sad that this duo isn't coming)...

[Midhav]

Aye thank you Chimera.

Elizabeth and Will are done, and most fans are only slowly recuperating from that "blow" to them (lol). Face it everyone, their story is over, and it clearly ended with "At World's End"

[Chimera Doll]

!
Yes, exactly! Many don't realize that.
And I am still recuperating. -cries-

[Midhav]

Lol. I never used to be a fan of either of them. I was for Jack Sparrow and Hector Barbossa as one of my favs, but the VILLAINS, Lord Cutler Beckett and Davy Jones (okay maybe you can include Sao Feng and Barbossa into this list) were definitely my favourites.