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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

The high level pirate won't get a share of the gold if he is not onboard! Once you leave the ship, even though you are in the crew, you give up crew bonus, ships sunk, and crew share.

I thought about that, and I can’t come up with a way to “pay” for the use of the ship other than to have a “Lease Stand” next to the shipwright where the high level pirate would have to check in somehow with an NPC so the game would know he is leasing his ship. Maybe even have a new option on the shipwright menu to allow you to lease your ship out or to lease a ship. That way even if you are not aboard, you would get your share of the gold for allowing your ship to be used.

Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

Also, isn't this pretty much what we all aready do? Just not for total strangers.
But not ALWAYS! Letting someone borrow your ship is a nice gesture, but GIVING them your ship really isnt good for them as a pirate.
Part of developing your character and leveling your pirate is the challenge of sailing. If a level 2 pirate can lease a war Gall, he could get his sailing all the way to level 4 or 5 in the first haul. By the third time you launched it for him, he would be level 5 notoriety, and probably level 7 sailing, but level 1 or 2 on every other skill. Why would he ever even bother to buy a ship of his own if he never has to pay for it, always has one at his disposal, never has to worry about repair costs, etc.?

All excellent points. But, as I said, this ‘could’ be an idea to use if ever an economy was implemented in game. Perhaps a payment structure system that makes it expensive, but not prohibitive. In the end, I think people want to own their ships, and this is just a means of making gold to that end.

Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

One last bad, Since the ship is the high level players, if the one driving decides to take on a flag, they wont be able to board it. The captain is the ship owner, no matter if he is onboard or not. Only the Captain can hit the boarding button. Now the ship is tethered to the flag ship, and cant let go. (I've seen this in regualr sailing where the ship owner discoed while grappling the flag.)

Perhaps part of the lease ‘code’ would be that if the Lessee goes to jail boarding a flag, the same rules apply as if he were the actual captain. Just as in a real life lease. He goes to jail, the ship sinks, and the ship reverts back to the owner.

Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

One thing that has been said over and over in many of the threads about helping each other, Too much help is actually a bad thing. It develops a high level pirate who is unevenly balanced in skills, and can't do anything for himself.

I understand, however, this is not so much “help” as it is a money making venture for the high level pirate that allows the low level pirate to “taste” the good life of a War Fleet.

Edit: it is also dependent upon high level pirates "wanting" to do this.

Originally Posted by Maximvs

Gotta agree with that - I mentioned many times with the 'ship grapple glitch' that when that glitch was gone - no one would know how to sail and sure enough it happened...

Since I never used that glitch (by using the 'fish tail' method to sink high level ships - learning to aim close to lighting strike sails) - when it was fixed again... I never even missed it.

It also points back to other issues where if weak players always scream out for a healer in everything they do - they don't learn to survive on their own when needed (and they become needy). Where I can do Kingshead at L20 myself without a healer (not easy - but can be done) for Gernades - I would never have that learned the tricks I use (tag and step runs to get them stuck while I check barrels for example) if I just depended on everyone helping me all the time...

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Overall - its a nifty idea... but the execution I think would be crippling in the end.

Yea, I laughed at the people who depended on the grapple glitch to rep up. The last time I ‘sunk’ was on one of my low level characters after boarding the colossus. I went to jail and the ship had to be fully repaired. I haven’t been sunk by a ship outside of SvS in a long time.

Again, though, it is up to the high level player whether s/he wants to do this, and if s/he wants to actually go out with the crew.

Basically, the idea comes directly from leasing autos. I was just thinking about how that might be implemented in the game.