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Ryu_Kenshin 04-30-2008 08:09 PM

Unlimited Members Only Servers?
 
Like runescapes members only servers, ones only unlimited acsess members can use. It would creat less lag for the ones of us that avoid it. Quite frankly I'm getting tired of herds of light sloops following me through out the freaking waters stealing everything I shoot at, even worse, like level 1s following me in PR attacking level 18 grunts that I train on.

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Chris 04-30-2008 08:18 PM

YES! YES! YES! and YES!

Angel 04-30-2008 09:12 PM

I agree, however now those lvl 1s will be attacked back due to the new upgrade. That and try goin to a quieter server. It is where my home is now :)

Hyde 04-30-2008 09:14 PM

Omigod, there is only ONE reason that I will agree with this; because EVERY day without fail, I get a level 5 (or about) following me EVERYWHERE when I'm trying to train so that THEY can level up. I mean, I'm usually friendly... but this guy yesterday just followed me EVERYWHERE without even asking!

Please Members only servers!!! - After all, we pay for it ;)

Ryu_Kenshin 05-01-2008 12:06 AM

I'm just tired of seeing my Black Hawk, a lone sloop, with about a hundread light sloops behind me. And some how noobs get on my ship, attack extremely high leveled things like monarches when I just wanna get to a small island and get me sunk.

maxumw2000 05-02-2008 08:01 AM

yes there could be a way you can ask for permission to join a crew because of that reason if you add someone to your friends menu you are sailing and trying to lvl your own way nxt you have a crew without asking for it.

dangerousden 05-02-2008 12:11 PM

Members only servers get a thumbs up from me :)

Nathaniel Wolfson 05-02-2008 01:07 PM

Members-only servers gets a *meh* from me.

It simply segregates us further from the people just trying out the game. And those people are our future recruits into the guilds. What's more, by having all the paying players kicked off into private servers, it removes us from these people's sights and gives them ZERO incentive to stick with the game or pay for it.

I know of several maxed free members. And yes, some of them are annoying kids. But maxing a free account takes a LOT of work in and of itself and shows dedication to the game.

If you're that worried about newbies following you around, simply go someplace REALLY dangerous and let something like a Seabeard "scrape" them off.

Rackat 05-02-2008 05:01 PM

The people trying out the game are going to like it or not regardless of whether we are on a Member's Only server or on the Open servers. Also, those that can't, won't, or just haven't got around to buying a subscription are still going to be on the Open Servers so they will still see some "Higher Level" players, so there is some incentive to stay with it. As well, the incentive would be additional in that they know once they are a paying member, they will get access to the servers the ret of us would be playing on.

It wouldn't be that hard to set up either. On the Choose Server list, the servers starting with Q through Z could be Member's Only, and any non-Member clicking on them would not be able to port into them. If you want to play with the gulls you can choose to, not be forced to.

Angel 05-02-2008 06:26 PM

I dont think Disney would do this only because they rely on us unlimited higher lvls to help those basic members out. If we didnt, many of them might just quit the game all together.

AdmiralSavvy 05-03-2008 09:41 PM

You do not know how great that would be for me. :)

1: Less lag from all the non-members.
2: Not so many little annoying ships firing at my ship or following me from one side of the ocean to the other.
3: Less friend requests and crew invites from people I don't know, I get a lot from members but it would help this problem ;)
4: Everytime I'm at PR or Tortuga, I sometimes have people following me around, more less spying.

It would be wow if Disney accomplsihed this. :)

Nathaniel Wolfson 05-03-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rackat (Post 37749)
The people trying out the game are going to like it or not regardless of whether we are on a Member's Only server or on the Open servers.

Yes, but without all the higher level players, there's nobody to display the benefits of paying for the newbs.

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Also, those that can't, won't, or just haven't got around to buying a subscription are still going to be on the Open Servers so they will still see some "Higher Level" players, so there is some incentive to stay with it.
I say again, without the higher level (beyond 12) players out there demonstrating the benefits of paying, there's less incentive for newbies to pay.

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As well, the incentive would be additional in that they know once they are a paying member, they will get access to the servers the ret of us would be playing on.
Wow. A "secret friends club". I've always hated this mentality. There's nothing truly different about these "members only" servers. Thus, there's no real benefit apparent to the free members. They already get penalized with level caps, half their experience taken from kills, and having to wait to get on servers as it is.

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It wouldn't be that hard to set up either.
How do you know this? Simply because the IDEA is simple, the IMPLEMENTATION isn't necessarily so.

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Originally Posted by AdmiralBeckett
1: Less lag from all the non-members.

Sure. But what about lag introduced by other members?

"Less" doesn't automatically mean an acceptable level.

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2: Not so many little annoying ships firing at my ship or following me from one side of the ocean to the other.
Since they can't hurt you, why do you care?

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3: Less friend requests and crew invites from people I don't know, I get a lot from members but it would help this problem
I'd actually like to see an option that just lets you auto-ignore friends requests.

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4: Everytime I'm at PR or Tortuga, I sometimes have people following me around, more less spying.
Again, since they can't hurt you, who cares?

AdmiralSavvy 05-03-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 38064)
Yes, but without all the higher level players, there's nobody to display the benefits of paying for the newbs.



I say again, without the higher level (beyond 12) players out there demonstrating the benefits of paying, there's less incentive for newbies to pay.



Wow. A "secret friends club". I've always hated this mentality. There's nothing truly different about these "members only" servers. Thus, there's no real benefit apparent to the free members. They already get penalized with level caps, half their experience taken from kills, and having to wait to get on servers as it is.



How do you know this? Simply because the IDEA is simple, the IMPLEMENTATION isn't necessarily so.



Sure. But what about lag introduced by other members?

"Less" doesn't automatically mean an acceptable level.




Since they can't hurt you, why do you care?



I'd actually like to see an option that just lets you auto-ignore friends requests.



Again, since they can't hurt you, who cares?

There would be less people on the UA only server which doesn't go by lvl but amount of people adding up the lag.

It's just annoying when your sailing to plunder or for other reasons and you have some little light sloop on your tail the entire sailing session.

An auto-ignore friend/crew invite would be nice. :)

What if your in a conversation with a guildmate or recruiting for a boss battle? It's very annoying to me when I see lower lvls who don't have anything better to do than listen in on other people's conversations that don't really require whisper or acting like they are part of the boss battle crew asking all the time "are we going now?"

Rackat 05-03-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 38064)
Yes, but without all the higher level players, there's nobody to display the benefits of paying for the newbs.

You really seem to be concerned with the newbies getting to play alongside of those of us that have paid for our unlimited access. That is commendable. Pardon me if I don't care. I played on the free account, liked it, and bought unlimited access. As a matter of fact, I bought two accounts so that my kids could play and not have to get kicked off the account when I want to play. I don't mind playing alongside the newbs at all, but I would like it a lot better if I was playing alongside of Paying newbs that don't abuse the game features. No, it isn't guarranteed that paying newbs would be better, but one can hope.


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Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 38064)
I say again, without the higher level (beyond 12) players out there demonstrating the benefits of paying, there's less incentive for newbies to pay.

If the benfits of paying were not readily seen, how many subscripion payers do you think there would be? I bought the subscription the same weekend I started playing and haven't regretted it yet. People either want to purchase the subscription or not.


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Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 38064)
Wow. A "secret friends club". I've always hated this mentality. There's nothing truly different about these "members only" servers. Thus, there's no real benefit apparent to the free members. They already get penalized with level caps, half their experience taken from kills, and having to wait to get on servers as it is.

First, the "secret friends club" is your words, not mine. Second, a members only server system would actually be preferable. If we want to recruit new members for our guilds, we know where the "free" servers are, and it keeps the free accounts from interferring with our enjoyment of the game.


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Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 38064)
How do you know this? Simply because the IDEA is simple, the IMPLEMENTATION isn't necessarily so.


It would only take a little bit of code by the programmers to tell the servers that a member may or may not join a particular server based on thier account status. It is not much diferent than being allowed or disallowed access to a forum based on your registration. Admins can access everything on their website, and they appoint Mods that are allowed to access most everyhing on the site. The same principle applies to members only servers.

Have a good weekend.

Ryu_Kenshin 05-04-2008 12:40 AM

Dude, have you played runescape? Members can get on nonmembers and members worlds...


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