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Unsafe_Safe 02-19-2008 08:38 PM

Why is the Navy on land?
 
Surely it should be the Army on land and not the Navy? Just noticed that.

Maximvs 02-20-2008 04:51 AM

No - in the period there was no distinction between land and sea forces (as today many countries call the 'armed forces' with no distinction between land/sea/air) - as the Ocean for the time was Dominated by the British Navy - their 'armed forces' were Navy troops.

Rose Darkpaine 02-20-2008 10:56 AM

The Navy is still on land today too. Navy has sea duty and land duty.
My hubby is a retired USMC.... same thing goes... they have times (depending on their jobs) when they are on ships for long periods and time on land.
I dont think Army and Air Force ever do time at sea.

Danny the Red 02-22-2008 03:50 AM

Army folks will occasionally hitch a ride with the Navy to get places. The Airforce flies United Airlines. :laughks2:





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Originally Posted by Rose Darkpaine (Post 25754)
The Navy is still on land today too. Navy has sea duty and land duty.
My hubby is a retired USMC.... same thing goes... they have times (depending on their jobs) when they are on ships for long periods and time on land.
I dont think Army and Air Force ever do time at sea.


Christopher Foulbones 02-22-2008 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxximvs (Post 25743)
No - in the period there was no distinction between land and sea forces (as today many countries call the 'armed forces' with no distinction between land/sea/air) - as the Ocean for the time was Dominated by the British Navy - their 'armed forces' were Navy troops.

Actually the each British Naval man-o-war carried at least 50-150 Royal Marines. The Royal Marines wore the red jackets you see. The British navy at the time wore no uniform apart from the Officers. They did however go on land to fight in the case of an invasion of an enemy fort on an island, etc.

Depending on where the ship set sail from you would either have Royal Marines who had the red uniform or the Royal Artillery Corps who wore the Blue uniforms and places like Plymouth had Royal Artillery Corps, where as for example Portsmouth had Royal Marines.

An interesting piece of knowledge too is that they used to place the Royal Marines between the Officers and the crew in case of Mutiny. The Royal Marines were too loyal and were also kept away from the crew in Meal times and other times to plan a mutiny in coalition with each other.

So the answer to your question is that they are NOT Navy Soldiers as such, but Royal Marines. Its just that Disney didn't go to much effort in researching the correct terms for these such things.

As a matter of fact the Royal Navy today are the only branch of the British Military that do not have a ground force as they didn't back then either. We now have the Royal Marine Commandos instead of Royal Marines.


Regards,
Chris

Maximvs 02-22-2008 02:33 PM

Thanks Chris :) I was just going for the basics - but your detailed one works just fine :laughks2:

Christopher Foulbones 02-22-2008 05:13 PM

No worries, I work in Portsmouth's Historic Dockyards so didn't wanna let the knowledge go to waste.:mickeypiratezd4:

Chris 02-22-2008 07:41 PM

yea the term "navy" used today is armed forces on the oceans like the Navy Seals however back then they just called all their armed forced navy

Christopher Foulbones 02-22-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 26309)
yea the term "navy" used today is armed forces on the oceans like the Navy Seals however back then they just called all their armed forced navy

No they didn't read above, you are answering with an incorrect answer. The British, French, Spanish or Dutch never called their armed forces the Navy. Their were the Royal Fusiliers who were a primary land regiment and many others.

jaco 02-26-2008 09:17 PM

Thanks,


Just wanted to say thank you chris for reminding me why Im glad Im out of school and never have to go back. Some days I look back at school and think "man those were the days." Then someone brings up how the royal armed forces worked in the 1800's and I think " thank you graduation day".


Jaca Lan'Heue
"didn't pass second grade" pirate


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