Stop Stealing!
 

Have you ever had other guilds steal your guild members? I hate that! Other guilds sometimes come into my guild and start LYING about me, so my members go to their guild because 'they didn't do anything and I did blah blah blah to them'. :vhuh::vhuh::vhuh: It is so rude! I mean, sure, if they other person ASKS to join another guild, but it really annoys me when you say bad things about their guild so that person will join yours.

I understand you...:vangry: I have had people "steal" Kraken Krew guild members before...I understand, I was very angry...but I won't go into that right now...

When I first joined a guild I was happy with, this girl who was a good friend of mine kept bothering me about joining her guild, about how she would "make me an officer and get gold". :vrolleyes: Ended up deleting her...

LOL...funny, but effective.:vlaugh:

isn't this what you were doing... Today:vundecided:

I wasn't begging them to join, I didn't see them with any other guild members so I figured they had a small guild. I politely asked if they would like to join, and gave them a little info, and when they said no, I left. I also didn't lie to them about their guild lol. That is the thing I meant to say when I didn't like stealing. I have a couple guilds that have been doing that to me.

the main problem here is most people wants their own guild so there is thousands of small guilds and almost everyone is already in a guild i myself had to destroy my guild (i made it it didnt work out :() and join another guild (which has helped me alot and im glad i made that decision)

Wow a ongoing problem with a simple fix... game devlopers put that pretty little " Guild name " below our characters name for a reason... if you see it please don't waste your time asking, i've learned over many years of gaming loyal members will ask to join and they will stay no matter what. If you have problems with your members jumping ship then maybe your decision to recruit them was not whole hearted, with a guild it's not about how large or small they are it's how dedicated. Our guild has 61 members and they are all active might not be on the same time everyday but i see everyone of them online at some point through out the day. And for those complaining about other players "stealing " their members maybe you should do this either....

AHMEN BRUTHA!!!^^
(translation: i agree)

Now lying about the guildmaster is really going too far.
Even advertising is rude. If the member leaves your guild for another guild that is fine, as long as they were not lied to or advertised about.

The one I hate is the lying. I've had that many times. I also hate begging. Those are the two that I NEVER do. I do invite folks from other guilds, but beg, lie, and brag is going way too far. When I invite other members from other guilds, I simply give them some info about what we do, and invite them.

I guess I'm not understanding (a) how this is "stealing"; and (b) what the big deal is? <scratches head>

Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute:
If the guild was meeting the pirate's needs, then I doubt they could be enticed away so easily -- and nothing that was said about the guild, you, or any other member would have had any weight.

On the other hand:
The pirate might just be flaky and easily led astray -- in which case, who needs him/her in their guild?

So, if this is happening over and over again, then you might want to give some thought as to the reasons WHY.

Also, just because someone already has a guild designation under their name, does not mean they shouldn't be asked if they would like to join another guild, imo.

Before joining my current (awesome) guild, I belonged to 2 different ones that did not do much for me. Still, I thought they were better than nothing and so was reticent to drop out of them until I had another offer. Those guilds may have felt that I had been "stolen" too (although I seriously doubt they even noticed I was gone).

And had they said "yes", would you have considered it "stealing"?

My solution? Don't bother people in other guilds. That's why I appointed my guild space to a private report guild that way nothing like this would happen. All this will become is people attacking each other and *gasp* guild flame wars.

Can you imagine 100 people in one spot screaming at each other? Sorry Davy, I know I said the report guild was on you're side but I can't agree with you on this one.

If I remember correctly, if you have problems with other Guilds, you should contact the mods. Everyone has their choices to which guild they wish to join. If they left, they probably didn't have much trust in the Guild anyways and didn't deserve to be in it. This thread would most likely lead to arguments, so maybe you should contact a mod. about ppl. coming to your sub-forum and "stealing".

I steal guild members. There, I said it.

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Frankly, the only other options these days are 1) stand by the Port Royal graveyard and wait for the new members to come fresh out of the intro movie, or 2) harass the higher-level pirates who've made a conscious decision to NOT be in a guild.

I agree wholeheartedly with Stormrunner. Happy members don't pay any attention to me when I tell them about my guild. Unhappy members seem thrilled that someone else is interested in them. So is it stealing? Yeah. Is it "liberating?" YEAH.

In fact, the last couple of times I've poached a member, they've usually brought at least one other person who also wasn't happy with their guild. At that point, I'm offering sanctuary to these pirates. *shrugs* Am I still a thief?

Basically, lying about someone isn't good, and really... it's unnecessary. Like what's already been said in this thread, if someone's going to stay, they'll be loyal no matter what. But once they feel like what they expect for their loyalty is gone? You'd better believe I (and anyone/everyone else who builds their guild this way) starts getting whispers.