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Captain Del 06-16-2011 10:32 PM

Let's Try This Again, Shall We?
 
Pirates, Guildmasters, Boatswains, lend me your ears!

I'm sure you all remember the little gathering of guilds that this site maintained way back in September. Perhaps a little thing called The Pirate Conclave?

Alright alright alright, enough with the gasps of horror and disgust! I come here on much better terms!

Out of general bickering, confusion, and inactivity, the Conclave was forced to close for the betterment of society as a whole. This came after a very shaky and jumbled start, only followed by a more chaotic and conspiratorial period of anarchy (or Oligarchy, whichever word you prefer.) So, the members of the Conclave came to a decision to shut it down just to make our lives easier. However, one of my final opinions on the subject sits just below me:

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Maybe this plan could be revised and recreated in the future, when we have more support and a better pre-plan. But for now, I'm standing my ground when I state that the Conclave will be officially closing, based on a major concensus by the guilds of said Conclave.
And to the most part, there were many people back then who agreed that this could be pulled off very well with enough prior preparation, coupled with plenty of time, and a strong leadership. And as time passed and people began to final forget about the Conclave, I still remember my idea - and with your help, I intend to keep it.

It's in my hopes that with the help of guilds across the Caribbean that I will once again be able to establish this gathering, with a fresher and cleaner face than before. You and I rightfully know that if we put the greatest minds in the Caribbean to work on this matter, then nothing can stop it from becoming a great, great thing.

Of course, you're probably asking, "Why should I join this just so it can fail again?" Well, Debbie Downer, the thing about this is that I'm going to do my best to make sure this doesn't fail, by learning off the past mistakes of the old Conclave. Here are a few changes to the premise.

1. We are actually going to put some thought in to this. The point of this thread is so that you, the potential future members, can have a say in how this will turn out when we go through with this.

2. No dictatorships, oligarchies, monarchies, or regimes - just a simple, concrete leadership. The problem with the old Conclave was that there was a sort of power struggle going on inside of it. And as we all know, when the leaders don't have any room to do anything, nothing gets done.

However, this time around, we're going to go nice and simple - a head leader (myself) who will be advised and supported by the guilds within the group. And no, you don't have to worry about me going on a power trip and controlling everything in sight - because really, what personal gain would I get? A heap-load of problems I don't need nor want? No thanks. :laughks2:

3. We're going to make sure we have dedicated members before we start storming out in to the Caribbean. Last time, we gathered a small group of initial members, hoping they would stay on the ride and follow it - and guess where that got us? :mybadki6:

This time around, we're going to make sure we have a large group of already active guilds, so we can make sure we get off the ground, and stay there. Dedication and patience is key, after all.

4. We're doing this not for personal gain, or for power or reputation - we're doing this to unite the Caribbean. Last time, it seemed as though the only thing that was wanted out of the Conclave was being able to say "I'm apart of this lololololol." That's not our goal.

The dream of this gathering is to bring together the guilds of the Caribbean under a single, communicable roof. No cliques, no strictness, and plenty of breathing room - the point of this is to make a guild feel warm amongst their fellow guilds, and that they can have a good time.

And how exactly will you unite the Caribbean? My Little Pony and Buttons?

While I'm not saying that My Little Pony wouldn't unite the Caribbean (Rainbow Dash FTW,) the overall scheme of this will, of course, focus on regular events that MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND. However, it will serve, this time around, a bigger purpose than that.

It's in my hopes that this gathering can also be used as a way for guilds who have never met to start communicating, getting to know each other, and perhaps begin pirating about with each other. It's going to be much more involved and helpful as it was before, while at the same time being enjoyable.

Please, discuss. I want to hear a lot of discussion (that hopefully doesn't stray from the site rules) so we can set this up the way YOU, the pirates of the Caribbean, want it.

Captain Sharktooth 06-16-2011 10:50 PM

Ah yes, I remember this....

I'd join... Course, I'm not a Gm.....

The Stealthy Pirate 06-16-2011 11:13 PM

Meh, Im not sure since I wasnt here, but I did look it up and it looked like it didnt go so well... so im not sure. @_@

The Skirata Clan 06-16-2011 11:17 PM

I had such a hard and bad experience from the one after that. But count me in to help out if needed.

Tiberius Fireskull 06-16-2011 11:36 PM

I still remember all the stuff that happened back last time we tried to do this...

I am reluctant to join, but I know that you cannot do this alone, Del. So I think I'll take a leap of faith, or die an old man filled with regret... I've been watching too much Inception.

You can count me in, mate. I'll be glad to help out in making The Conclave II (or whatever we'll call it) great. This time, I think we can succeed.

Jello743 06-16-2011 11:55 PM

You guys should have like an Inner Circle. Because with one leader stuff gets out of hand. With the circle they can decisions and stuff. Again this is my opinion...

WeirdBeard 06-17-2011 12:09 AM

Is this a guild? Or just a group, not a real guild?

The Stealthy Pirate 06-17-2011 12:12 AM

If I understand correctly, this is a guild made up of guilds.

The Skirata Clan 06-17-2011 01:56 AM

It's a group of guilds. Not really a guild of guilds.

Slasher 06-17-2011 03:53 AM

Well. I believe I would like to partake. Del, it seems you have put very much thought into this, so since you did so much, count me in!

Chris Ironhawk 06-17-2011 07:12 AM

I am looking forward to being a part of this... By being an active member of the Partners, I really have no choice but to join... But I plan to play an active role in this... I know that anything that Del invests time in ought to be good!

But I just want to reiterate something that Del has said. One of the main reasons why the Conclave failed was that people were just "standing around and waiting for things to happen." That was a major mistake. If this is going to work, we, as members of the group, are expected to play an ACTIVE role in the construction of this group. We can have the group, and the leader, and the upper ranks... But what really matters, in any situation really, is the other guys... The members... They are the ones that make everything happen...

The road on this journey shall be tough- we have to come up with everything from scratch- but as long as we each play a role in the creation of this, we can make this work... We just need to go... One step at a time....

I wish all guilds taking part in this journey luck...

~Chris Ironhawk
PNC Officer

Dark_Pixie 06-17-2011 11:07 AM

With you all the way, Del.

Captain Del 06-17-2011 01:51 PM

For the purpose of filing records, I'm going to ask that all of those pirates/guilds who wished to be involved in the new court please answer this application, and return it to me by posting here in full.

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Your Main Pirate's Name:
Name of Prospective Guild:
Approximate Date of Creation:
Number of Members:

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?


- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.


Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
Remember, this is just an early draft of the application form, and will only serve it's purpose until we actually open this all up.

In the meantime, I need you all to begin spreading the word. Find any guild and pirate you can get your hands on, and lead them over to this thread. I need your help, pirates!

Dark_Pixie 06-17-2011 02:39 PM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Misty
Name of Prospective Guild: The Silent Force
Approximate Date of Creation: November 28th, 2010 (exact date)
Number of Members: 21

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
Yes.

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.

I would go to all ends of the Caribbean to make this work. I will be forever loyal to this, and will love every minute that I'll get to spend with other guilds.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
I promise.

If I haven't given the sort of answers you were looking for, or misunderstood anything, do tell me and I'll fix it.

Marry The Night 06-17-2011 10:54 PM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Alice Darkbane
Name of Prospective Guild: Partners N Crime
Approximate Date of Creation: June 15th, 2009
Number of Members: 182

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
No.

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)

I think this counts.

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...us/Consent.png

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.

As much as I love Debbie Downer (we're bffs), I'll be loyal and serve this conclave to the best of my ability, and attend all events/meetings.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?

I do.


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