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PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:21 PM

POTBS vs. POTCO
 
Pirates of the Burning Sea has just gone F2P so now let's compare how this game matches up with POTBS.

POTBS:
+100 different ships + user content such as flags and ships
+100 missions
+Many Ports
+Player Controlled Economy
+Port Governors Player Voted
+Massive Player Customization
+Vast Open Sea
+Conquerable Ports
+Big community/loyal fanbase
-Partial lag
-Fewer servers
-Big learning curve

POTCO:
-Unlimited vs Basic
-Must pay to access higher ships and majority of missions
-Repetitive missions
-3 ships types (Sloop, Frigate, and Galleon)
-Some clothing and weapons restricted to Unlimited members
-Unlimited can use 99% of game
-Basic has maybe 1% of basic game access
-Lack of content/expansions
-Smaller community/close fanbase


So, who wins in this battle? The P2P disguised as a F2P or the P2P who went F2P?

Tiberius Fireskull 12-11-2010 11:25 PM

Its really all in how your gaming style is. Better is only a point of view. For some, POTBS would be better than POTCO. In other cases, POTCO is better than POTBS. And this:

Quote:

-Unlimited can use 99% of game
-Basic has maybe 1% of basic game access
Is complete exaggeration. Basics can use almost the whole game if they just know how to do it right. ;)

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280966)
Its really all in how your gaming style is. Better is only a point of view. For some, POTBS would be better than POTCO. In other cases, POTCO is better than POTBS. And this:



Is complete exaggeration.

I would take the learning curve over the lack of access.

And how is that so? The more updates the game gets, the more the basic player has to pay to use more stuff.

SEAKING23 12-11-2010 11:28 PM

POTBS wins. we need to be more like them.

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SEAKING23 (Post 280969)
POTBS wins. we need to be more like them.

POTBS is a true pirate MMO. I've been playing it for a long while now and it's well worth the time and effort.

Oh, and another pro:
In POTBS, you can use a SOTL. In POTCO, it doesn't even exist in the Caribbean except as NPC.

Tiberius Fireskull 12-11-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateEmpire (Post 280967)
I would take the learning curve over the lack of access.

And how is that so? The more updates the game gets, the more the basic player has to pay to use more stuff.

Not at all true. Whenever Disney adds something to the game, they always will add something for basics. When the new clothes come out, there will be a few items that Basics can buy, such as sack shorts. Yes, its not as much as unlimited, but Disney needs to get money or we can't have the game.

Other examples. Basics couldn't always use the voodoo doll, or the light galleon. Those have been unlocked for them. When the Inventory was expanded, basics were able to use sabers and blunderbusses. Whenever Disney updates the game, basics get a little more.

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
Not at all true. Whenever Disney adds something to the game, they always will add something for basics.

Disney =/= the company who developed the game. At least learn that Disney didn't make the game. Disney just published it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
When the new clothes come out, there will be a few items that Basics can buy, such as sack shorts.

"Few" as in a select amount of things which say "Hey, i'm a free player! Notice how bad my clothes look!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
Yes, its not as much as unlimited, but Disney needs to get money or we can't have the game.

The developer needs the money, not Disney. The developer cares more about what's going into its pocket than what's being added to the game.

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
Other examples. Basics couldn't always use the voodoo doll, or the light galleon.

I can't use my Frigate. And I was Unlimited until I went Basic. I used to be able to use my Frigate as Basic until the system got changed once again to limit my play time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
Those have been unlocked for them.

And many more remain locked with no key able to be seen in sight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
When the Inventory was expanded, basics were able to use sabers and blunderbusses.

And Unlimited was able to use about everything else that got released. 2% is not 100%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 280971)
Whenever Disney updates the game, basics get a little more.

Whenever the DEVELOPER updates the game, the Basics get less.

Stephen O'Malley 12-11-2010 11:41 PM

One huge flaw with POTBS: No Mac OS X support.

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen O'Malley (Post 280973)
One huge flaw with POTBS: No Mac OS X support.

I bet you could easily get the community to see if they can get support for it. I bet they could if alot of the community got support for it.

Stephen O'Malley 12-11-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateEmpire (Post 280974)
I bet you could easily get the community to see if they can get support for it. I bet they could if alot of the community got support for it.

Rewriting a game to work on another platform ain't an easy task mate.

Guess we'll see in time, but for now, I am sticking with POTCo.

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen O'Malley (Post 280976)
Rewriting a game to work on another platform ain't an easy task mate.

Guess we'll see in time, but for now, I am sticking with POTCo.

I know it's not going to be easy but the FLS would do it for the community. They after all are a community driven game.

POTBS converted me from POTCO. That's saying something.

charles gunfury 12-11-2010 11:55 PM

is downloading free game right now :P

PirateEmpire 12-11-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by charles gunfury (Post 280978)
is downloading free game right now :P

POTBS? And anyway...i'm Premium on POTBS so I get lots of access due to my past subscription. Free players still can do alot with the limited econ slots, dockyard slots, and stuff but they can get Ship Insurance, Ship Storage, and other things from Treasure Isle once they purchase permanently.

FYI: If you're new to POTBS, join a society!

charles gunfury 12-12-2010 12:02 AM

FYI: i will if it ever finishes downloading :P

PirateEmpire 12-12-2010 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charles gunfury (Post 280980)
FYI: i will if it ever finishes downloading :P

I had the retail so I didn't have to deal with the massive download time. I actually had it installed long before F2P happened for the game.

Here's some beginner tips:
Do all starter missions so you can get acquainted with the game mechanics
Join any society so they can help you with questions and get ships for discount prices
Don't enter ports under contention and risk losing your ship
Don't activate PvP flag until you feel you have a good ship that can handle the gunfire

And how big is the download file anyway? I bet it's quite a few gigs.


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