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Basil Dreadflint 08-23-2009 01:52 AM

Casa Muertos Quest, What does it mean?
 
Here's a situation and some questions regarding the Casa Muertos Quest.

Disney has posted that this quest is only going to be available on Test for 3 days. The notes say that it is going to be available on Open starting September 4 and running for about 3 weeks.

Since WHEN does Disney release a TEMPORARY quest, and make it level dependent???
We have proven that the final section is only available to level 20 and above. Disney has never done that before. All the special quests in the past have been available to everyone! Especially if they can only be assigned for a limited number of days.

I mentioned before, I think this quest may be a lead in to the second story chapter. (Not immediately open it, but maybe have something to do with it.) The Casa Muertos Guild is working for Jolly Roger. By helping them, we the pirates are working for him, too. I believe that some of the things we are supposed to get for them are things that Jolly Roger is seeking to help him gain strength in the Caribbean.

So, here's my quandry.
Should we even DO this quest? Does it mean anything OTHER THAN gold and rep? By doing it, are we falling into a trap because we didn't listen to the Game Master's warnings about not helping JR and the EITC?
By doing it, is it going to open up something NEW (not immediately, but sometime down the road) for those who complete it?
What happens to those who DON'T do the quest, or CAN'T do it because they are too low level?

IF it is nothing more than rep and gold, since when does Disney put out a quest that the littlest pirates can't do? Is this a sign that they are finally starting to realize that they should cater to the high level, long time players? Like raising the caps does?

Lastly, Other quests, such as the Father's Day/ Mother's day quests, if you took them on and didn't finish them in the limited amount of time, they stayed on your journal quest list, and you could finish them aytime you choose. Will this be the same way? If I take them on, but don't finish them, will the Casa Muertos Guildmembers still be there for me, or will they go away?

I think that Disney has a special purpose for those 5 guys. I don't think that they will be hanging there by the dingy's with absolutely no purpose in being there once the quest is done. Either they have some other future in the game, or else they will just disappear.

I plan to finish the quest on one of my test pirates, but not finish on my second pirate. That way I will know what happens in both situations. If they just disappear, no big deal on the lost rep and gold on the second pirate.

I pose all this just to get everyone's reaction.

Dr. Zeppers 08-23-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 161452)
Since WHEN does Disney release a TEMPORARY quest, and make it level dependent???
We have proven that the final section is only available to level 20 and above. Disney has never done that before. All the special quests in the past have been available to everyone! Especially if they can only be assigned for a limited number of days.

I think the real reason for that is to have them vary in difficulty, unlike the fathers day quest, hard for little pirates, and way too easy for high level ones.


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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 161452)
I mentioned before, I think this quest may be a lead in to the second story chapter. (Not immediately open it, but maybe have something to do with it.) The Casa Muertos Guild is working for Jolly Roger. By helping them, we the pirates are working for him, too. I believe that some of the things we are supposed to get for them are things that Jolly Roger is seeking to help him gain strength in the Caribbean.

Sounds good to me!

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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 161452)
So, here's my quandry.
Should we even DO this quest? Does it mean anything OTHER THAN gold and rep? By doing it, are we falling into a trap because we didn't listen to the Game Master's warnings about not helping JR and the EITC?
By doing it, is it going to open up something NEW (not immediately, but sometime down the road) for those who complete it?
What happens to those who DON'T do the quest, or CAN'T do it because they are too low level?

IF it is nothing more than rep and gold, since when does Disney put out a quest that the littlest pirates can't do? Is this a sign that they are finally starting to realize that they should cater to the high level, long time players? Like raising the caps does?

I do not think they can make this end up being something dependent on those events. The "GM" meeting was not a publicly anounced meeting by Disney that im aware of. If they make anything in this game dependant on having special contacts in the pirate community other than information offered on their official site, they are making a serious mistake.


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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 161452)
Lastly, Other quests, such as the Father's Day/ Mother's day quests, if you took them on and didn't finish them in the limited amount of time, they stayed on your journal quest list, and you could finish them aytime you choose. Will this be the same way? If I take them on, but don't finish them, will the Casa Muertos Guildmembers still be there for me, or will they go away?

Great question, we probably wont get an answer until the time comes and goes.

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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 161452)
I think that Disney has a special purpose for those 5 guys. I don't think that they will be hanging there by the dingy's with absolutely no purpose in being there once the quest is done. Either they have some other future in the game, or else they will just disappear.

I plan to finish the quest on one of my test pirates, but not finish on my second pirate. That way I will know what happens in both situations. If they just disappear, no big deal on the lost rep and gold on the second pirate.

I pose all this just to get everyone's reaction.

Good points on the existence of these 5 pirates on the beach... (ie Casa Muertos Guild). Throwing them out there without giving players any true warning of any ill manner this may bring against them would be tragic. However...

We are on test.. testing. Technically we have made no mistakes lol.. Maybe more will be posted on their main site prior to release!

Sven Osymthe 08-23-2009 02:04 AM

Well, after attending a "Pre-war" gathering in game (which as shown in screen shots, a Marceline guild member, the Captain of the Casa Muertos guild, and Captain Walter played a role in) I learned a little bit more about this.

The Captain (Rott) came to Tortuga. Rott tried to sound innocent, and wanted to keep things secret from Marceline. He tried to tell us to help him dig up some "useless" items on Port Royal in the upcoming week.

Once he left, a Marceline member showed up. She informed us that Rott used to be a friend of Walters, but that is not the case now. She also said he was up to no good.

Finally, Walter said a lot more. He informed us that, during the attack against the EITC (when people sunk ships with the GMs), Rott was there. Rott ended up sinking to his grave. He also mentioned that, what Rott was after was protecting the Caribbean from Jolly Roger's magic.

So apparently, Rott struck a deal with Jolly Roger, to be brought back. In return he has to remove the objects from Port Royal (which should let the Muertos Moon curse return).

Regardless of if the quest is completed, Disney will more than likely continue with this approach if this is the case. It could very well be the next chapter close to release.. you never know ;)

Dr. Zeppers 08-23-2009 02:08 AM

Per that story, id say they want us all to do the quests.. expect us all to do them...

To bring back Capt. Rott. himself from his watery grave so the story continues.

However I would add again, that is very interesting, cool info to know, but obtained through special arrangements, and is technically not common knowledge to the POTCO playing world.
If they are to implement some 'cost' to pirates for performing these tasks, they need to make information in that circumstance available on their official site. (and they still might!)

Basil Dreadflint 08-23-2009 02:22 AM

Hehe, Is DIsney that capable? Devious? Dastardly? (Who is that man on the grassy knoll?)

I'm just curious about the fact that the quests are level dependent. This is a first.

Sven Osymthe 08-23-2009 02:32 AM

Could be to make people think these quests are more important than they are, and trick people into doing them. They could also possibly encourage people to level up faster.. probably not it, but I wouldn't expect much out of it.

Erich Uchiha 08-23-2009 02:50 AM

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So apparently, Rott struck a deal with Jolly Roger, to be brought back. In return he has to remove the objects from Port Royal (which should let the Muertos Moon curse return).
Or mabye it was someone else?

Could this be the point where Davy Jones comes into the picture?

Sven Osymthe 08-23-2009 02:58 AM

Well given that they mentioned the objects Rott wants are protecting the Caribbean from Jolly Roger, and Rott is attempting to remove them, it seems like a good guess. Someone also mentioned one of the buried objects being an amulet (which could be the one mentioned in the old screen shots).

I think at this point, Davy Jones wouldn't fit, at least not yet. Plus, unless he is completely finished, I wouldn't want to see him be released yet.

combatlizzy 08-23-2009 04:49 AM

Another pirate informed me that these guys have a Jolly Roger tattoo...
Things that make ya go Hmmmm.......They don't call it Casa Muertos for no reason...
Don't think I'll go there with my pirates. But that's just me.

Erich Uchiha 08-23-2009 02:24 PM

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Another pirate informed me that these guys have a Jolly Roger tattoo...
I was at the Rott Casa Muertos thing, I don't really remember a Jolly Roger tat,

All I remember on the fellow is his dark green coat and his Barbossa shirt under it hmm...

ex8404 08-23-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven Osymthe (Post 161461)
Could be to make people think these quests are more important than they are, and trick people into doing them. They could also possibly encourage people to level up faster.. probably not it, but I wouldn't expect much out of it.

From what I have seen, it will be pretty hard for level 20 or so pirates to turn these quests down. I went from 25 and a half to 26 and from 11,000 gold to 17,000 (numbers approximate). And the quests are relatively easy, IMO.

The Casa Muertos quest dumps a TON of gold and rep at a pirate. Who wouldn't do it?

Sven Osymthe 08-23-2009 02:35 PM

Heres a close up Erich.

Click the image to view the full version


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From what I have seen, it will be pretty hard for level 20 or so pirates to turn these quests down. I went from 25 and a half to 26 and from 11,000 gold to 17,000 (numbers approximate). And the quests are relatively easy, IMO.

The Casa Muertos quest dumps a TON of gold and rep at a pirate. Who wouldn't do it?
What I meant was, since these quests are level dependent it could encourage lower levels to try and level up to the requirements. Plus, given that these quests are "bad" in the story line, Disney WANTS us to complete them (reason for the ton of gold and rep). Plus, making them level dependent would make lower levels think this is a very important quest.

So again, "probably not it, but I wouldn't expect much out of it."

As for doing the quest, given that regardless of what happens the outcome will be the same, I will, but its not at the top of my "to-do" list.

Jack I 08-23-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by combatlizzy (Post 161490)
Another pirate informed me that these guys have a Jolly Roger tattoo...

Yep, all 5 do indeed have a Jolly roger tattoo on their chest. (More specifically, right around the area where their heart is.)
http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/g...sa_Muertos.png

And just for all other tattoos...
  • The two pirates on the right and Ezekiel have a tribal tattoo on their face.
  • Nathan has the "Jack Sparrow Eyes" tattoo.
  • Bill Barret has the "Skeleton Face" tattoo.
  • Nathan also has their chest tattoo on his right hand
  • Captain Ezekiel Rott and Nathan share a tattoo. The tattoo can be found on Ezekiel's left hand, and Nathan's right bicep.
  • Aside from the tribal tattoos, all of the Casa Muertos guild tattoos are skeletons.

combatlizzy 08-23-2009 03:42 PM

Thank you Jack I for posting this. The pirate that informed me is a very reliable, back from the Beta days mate...very experienced & very aware...

Dr. Zeppers 08-23-2009 05:20 PM

I saw the tats first thing, when talking to all of them picking up the quests.

Why? Because i noted, that they should let us position our tattoos where we would like them, as we cannot put them in the same spot at the Casa Muertos guild wears theirs. And btw, that tat is available at any POTCO tat shop.


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