Rudeness in SVSing
 

No you are not wrong. First of all, no one should act like that no matter if they are officer or not.
Idk HOW he even became an officer if he is like that.
People like that get on me nerves. That's why i dont go to Abassa anymore cause they are all like that.
I think that we should be able to click on the person's NAME on the chat screen to be able to report them so this kind of thing would stop.
What you said isnt wrong, it be 100% right

What Chris said. You aren't wrong in expecting that, and you aren't wrong in calling the guy an idiot. I'm surprised you had stayed that quiet for that long without snapping at him lol. There's a bunch of mastered pirates running around like this, trust me I've run into a bunch, and know a few. Seems like Disney doesn't do all too much with the report button either, can't tell you how many I've used it on, they still show up the next day mouthing off.
I really wish there were more polite players on the game, its annoying and tiring to have to put up with this.

Its a shame how many people have to do this in a game lol. I myself don't SvS a lot but when I do SvS though I hear a lot of people who like to brag. I admit that I say stuff when I sink friends....but nothing serious like that just a little joke like "glub glub glub". Same thing happens when you PvP someone....they try and talk like they are all that and try and insult the other person.

Hmmmm, wonder who on earth he said that to last..... :psmiley35:

Ben, Kate, Char, YOU.......anyone I miss?

back on topic.....people just need to learn to enjoy the game instead of trying to ruin everyone elses fun.

Don't think those that do that are really realizing how they are coming across to others, like you said, that's what makes it worse. Had a friend a while back that thought it was all for fun. Sad to see what some player's version of fun is.

No people (of any level/rank/guild, etc) shouldnt be like that, the fact of the matter however is there are people out there.

Some people find pleasure in bragging, boasting, and belittling others.
Such individuals are subject to thier own immature minds at work (regardless of age).

I created a gaming group years ago (OFx) specifically to avoid such gamers, unfortunately in a MMORG I have no control over the other players around me (like I did on my other game servers I ran).

I don't think that someone meets any standard just because they're mastered and/or an officer in a good-sized guild. Using people as my school as the type, excluding me of course, I'd say most of the people at my school who play online and play well are big somethings for the most part.

Your views are nice, and in a way I think many would like to see, but that boat is taking on water.

There are many that would use anything to try to take advantage of others, and it has been demonstrated many times. Many ships used the healing glitch, triple fire, and other resources of cheats, like undead glitch.

Many of these full crews had all types of players, officers, and I am sure gm's.

Pvp I saw many different types of cheats as well.

If its honor, manors, shilvary type things you are looking for you just are not going to find that by some players. Level, mastered, officer GM or undead monkey, you are going to find this behavior by some.

I saw a good demonstration of some of these behaviors just this weekend with the curse.

So to answer the question to this post, yes you are wrong to expect that, though most of us would like that to not be the case. If you expect this by all others you are going to be quite disappointed.

LOL, I will admit I had a hard time keeping my temper under control and I even surprised myself in doing so. But as he continue to mock us I realized that was exactly what he wanted us to do.....to lose control. I wasnt giving him the satisfaction of that. Instead I chose to find out who he was, what guild he belonged to, who his GM was, the names of all his ships and where he put his skill points on his weapons. What he doesnt know is he went up against the wrong pirate! And a female at that! LOL! And if any of you guys know anything....there is nothing worse than a woman being ticked off and bent on revenge! So it aint over till the fat lady sings! LOL! Kani of Spartan Ellite

Yikes!!!!!!
 

I applaud you for keeping your cool for as long as you did.

It's very sad indeed that someone would stoop to hurling insults and gloating in a game; nevertheless, it's apparent that some players have absolutely NO real life, or maybe a serious mental inhibition. You seem to have encountered such an individual. I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you.

To answer one of your points.....
Yes, I do think officers (especially fully mastered level 40's) should be held to far higher standards than members.

As an officer, it's my duty and privilege to make sure people (guildmates or not) can enjoy the game as much as possible. As a result, I get really really gassed when I find someone cheating during a curse (you know who you are. oh, and don't let me catch you either - I will NOT hesitate to report you for it) or being immature in Ship vs. Ship. Why? Because it's ruining the game experience for others; plain and simple. Long and short = I fully mastered my skills to help others enjoy the game and have fun, not to pummel and humiliate them.

Another thing, I would not hesitate to kick someone like the punk you described from a guild - in absentia!


Honestly, I wish there were more decent players like you. And there are :)

Hey! If anything, you can expect nothing less than utmost chivalry from me (you can likely find me on Andaba somewhere). Look for Radulf Stormfury :D

You know Poison Elf I have played this game for about 10 months now and this is the first time I have run into this type of behavior. Yes I have run into rude people before but nothing of this caliber. And I dont hold other peeps to a high standard but I do expect for other peeps to show a little respect for others. Not a lot but a little. I have been involved in a lot of drama on this game even to the point of some that tried to take me out of this game but I survived. So no I dont expect chivalry and honor! If I or others expected that then we wouldnt be playing pirates. And the only disappointment I have had playing this game is with Disney by not raising our notoriety and weapon levels. Kani of Spartan Ellite

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Hey thanks Radulf! Nice to meet other peeps like you and others on here that like to keep the game honest and fun! And as I said previously I had a hard time keeping my cool but I am an officer and was just trying to keep my GM from losing his, lol! I know him well enough that he is very competitive and doesnt take kindly to peeps like this. In my first guild where I was also an officer the rule in there was to help anyone and everyone no matter if they were in our guild or not. Since making three other pirates I have encountered quite a few peeps that have stopped to help me so I know chilvary and manners have not died.
I will keep an eye for you on Andaba. We SVS a lot! LOL!

I agree with the points, and respect by others, but it will remain a fact that some players are not that way.

On the most part over all, I would say most behave what I would consider appropriate.

Being from many different games and play styles, there is little I see new in peoples behaviors. Many times why I get laughing so hard I can't even respond back to cases like this.

This here is a ancient pk, pvp type tactic.

This person was not looking to be friends, or join the guild. So what was it he was looking for? A reaction, argument, make you mad, get under your skin, a fight.

Was he successful?

I would say yes he was, even if it wasn't with a immediate response.

I would think this is nothing new, its where one individual draws the line versus another.

A example of this is something like Darkhart, fighting him getting 500 rep. Another player jumps in fighting it you get 70 rep.
Its OK if he doesn't say anything?
Not OK when he says, haha I just lost you 100's of rep?
This is likely a every day occurrence to most pirates, but not getting it rubbed in. This being a hot topic in the past has had many different arguments.

If we were to see some pvp servers or something, I would think we would see this behavior common place. Why would it be any different then most other games?

So I stick with the same answer, you can perhaps expect good behavior by most, but definitely not all you run across. The level, officer, Gm, etc. will be no better one way or other for some of these people. When it comes to pk, pvp, svs, type game playing this behavior is likely to be seen, right or wrong. So I would expect this to come along from time to time in one form or other, whatever degree you wish to rate it at.

That doesn't mean I think its a good thing.

Maybe he just had a big ego and wasn't looking for anything on anyone else's part.

No, I have to agree with Poison Elf on this one. I think the guy was trying to get under our skin, start an argument, start a fight, etc. just to get a reaction. And the only reaction he got from me was that I told my GM not to listen to this idiot and not to engage in this type of childish behavior. But then again he may be egotistical who knows.

I find this cyberbullying myself. What i do in real life is i just ignoring them to my best ability. Yes is should be stopped but responding makes them feel good. I myself would have reported him to Big D from the Pirates Online website afterwards.

I've seen this type of behavior in SvS many times, and yes they are trying to get under your skin to make you re-act. My response is to just go back out and sink them , over and over and over and over..... you get the idea. They eventually give up, and I win by not using words but actions. If they are taunting you they want a response. So SINK THEM. Some of my crew will resort to giving back words that match the originals and then some, (childish IMHO) but it gets old and once we've done our best to beat them, words are no longer effective or necessary.You can't control the GMs, officers or anyone else in this game and you can't blame a guild for the action of it's individual members. If it's not a personal attack don't take as such. :xmascheers:

Thanks for the advice Maya and I would have liked to have done that but the little squirt ported off or logged but he nonetheless disappeared which I have seen a lot of that happening while svsing. And I may fuss about that a little but I know some of the peeps are questing so I just sit patiently and wait for another victim. Also, I would never blame his GM nor his guild for his actions. I know they cant babysit him nor should they should have to. He was just being a poor sport about the whole thing. After thinking about the whole incident I remembered we had sunk him several times and once he sunk us he took it upon himself to switch sides long enough to rub it our faces on how he sunk us. I really dont pay attention to names of the ships while svsing so whether I am sailing or cannoning and taking them down its nothing personal. Kani of Spartan Ellite

Another Example...

Last night I met a few Guilders in a Bar on a quiet server just to chat it up for a bit. While there - out of nowhere this guy comes in says things like 'This island is closed' - 'get off the island' - 'get out of the bar' - *pulls gun out and starts shooting us for not listening*...

One of our group started to respond (actually it was a bit funny - he kept saying 'Hunh? I can't hear you?'. 'What? Speak Louder...' hehehe) but after a few minutes of that I just told the group 'Ignore him... and he'll disappear'...

Sure enough - after 5 minutes of screaming at us while we continued our chat... he just left. In fact the last minute he was there he just stood there - kinda confused looking - like he didn't understand why we weren't annoyed... and moved on.

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So Rose - no person should act that way no matter who they are - but when they do the best advice I give everyone is to just ignore them - no audience = no fun and they leave anyway :)

ummmmmmmmmmm, yeah try the entire BBK bunch Svenny Pooooo

hehehehe...... but yes when we do pick on the others we all now that it is just as a joke. We have NEVER gone to that extreme with the others. Sadly there are numerous LvL 40's who make this game hard to play.

We have the report option, but yet when we do, the reported is right back the next day causing the same trouble if not more. Why allow us to report rude/hateful players if they get the free ride back. I think if u get reported for being rude or hateful ( or for anything for that matter) you should not be allowed back in the game at all

this is just my opinion that all

I remember when one of me guild mates Svs'ed for the first time. His exact words were "what is the purpose of privateering except to anger other pirates?" Enuff said??

It may not be the case with this individual, but unfortunately there are entire Guilds whose whole purpose is this sort of behavior. And not just to act rude, but to destroy other Guilds as well.
Infantile, is a word which comes to mind regarding such folk.
:YoHoHo!:

I don't even know how to catagorize this incident, lol, but it was funny and I thot I would share. At the time it ticked me off but later on afterwards I started laughing about it. Anyhoo, this one ship was glitching during svs and I finally figured out the combo on how to take it down. Which of course ticked them off but oh, well. And I guess they decided to send a little spy around to the ships that were open to the public. Now this little spy got into our side of the privateer chat and started spouting off about how bad our side was and when I called her out (just wanting to talk to her) on it she then went silent (big surprise).

I turned around at one point off of cannon to help repair and there she stood on our ship (she was a level 22). I asked her what she wanted and she said that her friends called us a bunch of weenies! LOL! And I asked her was her friends onboard so and so ship and she replied yes. I then gave her a message to the opposing ship of friends of hers and said well, if we are a bunch of weenies how come they are sent to the bottom of the ocean time and time again by us. I then asked her to please leave our ship and not come back. I admit I did draw my cutlass on her, lol, when I said that so I guess that makes me rude but I wanted my point across that spies and derogatory (whether they were funny or childish or not) remarks weren't tolerated here. Needless to say she left but I am sure she went back to report that a level 40 pirate was on board threatening her at the point of a sword, LOL!

Kani of Spartan Ellite

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I have had similar problems while in SVS. Once I had just set out and a ship attacked me I damaged it pretty good and chased him, another ship on my team started hollering at me to back off that it was "my bounty they stole it from me" and got really rude. So I out ran them sank the ship and yes I did laugh all the way to port with a HUGE bounty.

IMHO, respect starts at the top. I believe that GM's and officers need to take this into account in their behavior towards others in the game. I have great respect for my GM because he has exhibited these qualities since the day I met him. And, now being an officer, I feel that I must pass on the same sense of equality and fair play to others in and out of my guild. Rudeness doesn't cut it in real life and neither does the drama that it causes others. Why should a game be different? It is a game...many people are paying to escape the tension of life. So why disrupt anyone's fun by actions such as these. Yes, I believe that Gm's & officers should be expected to atttain a higher standard in their actions. They provide a model for others to follow. Disrespect, rudeness, and these other types of bad behavior can be found on a street corner...I, personally, don't need them on POTCO. And, lastly, this is a Disney Game with many young people. What kind of experience does this supply for them?

I think it was understood the point I was really getting at. At the time it was something upsetting, later on realizing really how silly some of these things are. Something like this happens again, you are more likely now to understand why I stated I end up laughing half the time when things like this happen.

Though I do time to time react back to some of these things ( I do have my own stubborn streaks) its a game and ya can't let something like this get under your skin. If you do, it just ends up ruining your own game, time, and fun worrying about someone being a idiot.


Sometimes getting even feels good though also, better yet when they don't even realize it. I mentioned earlier on in the curse I had something like this happen. After all the whining of someone using a doll on him, I bet yet to this day this 40 level guy has no clue I took him out with siege bombs, and the doll user was no factor. Using a hill glitch doesn't make some people special how ever grand they think themselves. Sometimes there is nothing more funny than someone trying to take free shots on others and watching them throw a fit in the wrong place that it didn't work. Darn us noobs anyways, lol. Did this Gm impress me, not this day.

In general I would just say ignore the entire thing as well. When there is no reaction to them, they loose interest with no confrontation.

There are those that are out there though, and even at the top. I would like to believe these are not the guilds that are going to be very successful.

Rudeness pretty much defines SvS these days. (The "porting" cowardice bragged about above, being the least of it.) Why is the high bounty ship always hiding in the middle of nowhere? I rarely SvS now. Exploits + glitches + rudeness + lag-bombing + cowardice = typical SvS. Each time out, it takes less time to be reminded why it has become as giant an eyesore of POTCO, as PvP. No matter how many times I've reported glitchers, they always reappear the next time I'm in SvS. That's the way big-D wants it to be, so that's the way it will always be. Too bad, too...could have been the best part of the game.

I did not port out of cowardice but because of the constant rude comments for defending myself when i was attacked as soon as i set out. Sinking and losing the bounty and trying to get it back are part of the fun of SVS. I had already damaged the other ship down to almost nothing when they ran it wouldnt of mattered who got the last shot I would have gotten the bounty. I ported to shut them up and went right back out on the other side so they could have a chance to sink me if they could.

Good show, mate! :Pirate3:

You would think disney would make it easier to report someone in a situation like this.
I guess not.

Those two facts were not at all clear in your previous post. Thanks for the clarification.

You'd think they would take action, when individual pirates are directly reported, over and over again by numerous other players. Since they don't, there's little point in facilitating reports they would continue to ignore.

With SvS one-hit-wonder, broken take cover, infinite take cover, god-mode, blinking, lag-bombing, infinite ammo all given as much free-rein as PvP instant desolation, distance attuning, jumping, etc., SvS is as bad as PvP.

The competitive/playful banter and goading of several months ago, is gone. Now, your crew either knows the glitches or they don't. If they do, the crew gets so bored, there is nothing left to do, but devise the most vicious comments they can get away with. When it's a gang of teen-agers, it predictably is quite raw. When they have top bounty and hide for hours at a time, (while glitched, no less,) they demonstrate cowardice beyond description. Their boredom from all that hiding and therefore their rudeness, while not excusable, is almost understandable.

I ran into another cheat last night you guys may have seen but new to me.Had a lite sloop dropping cannon fire on me turned and blasted and he ran(of course) no problem so far. I went after him figuring on catching him and sending him to Davy Jones.He headed straight for an island and my thought was--got him--that was till he glitched into the island and my broadsides fell on earth.He was still in game still on compass and completely safe.

Just out of curiosity, which island?

Its not a named island maybe should have said rocks.If you sailed from the french island toward spanish its the 2 large rocks together on the right he hit them at the place they come together and sailed right on in. He came back out after I left and I'm guessing after he repaired.

He was polite enough not to talk trash lol

From the French Side its the right Island (or from Spanshi - the left) - and only Light Sloops (maybe a few other light ships) can do it (the Crack is too small for large ships)...

Edward knows it all too well :)

lol. Aye, the rocks are hard to shoot into. Only light sloops, light galleons and regular sloops can fit inside the rocks...very easy to get them inside. If you shoot at the V (where they go in) you can still damage their ship from the rocks you send flying. You can also go around to the other side of the boulder and just shoot straight in.