War Galleon or War Frigate?
 

Which should i buy? I have about 52000 gold but i dont know which to save up for. I was thinking war frigate...

I'd save for the Frigate. If you're good at poker, I'd play with a $2000 or so fallout: anything more lost, and you're not good at poker... still, my advice ain't necessarily good advice.

I'd go for the frigate too. I find more people will board one of them as opposed to a galleon. I think the reason is they can see what is going on easier. Or maybe cause it will hold up better. Myself my 2 pirates that are high enough only have the war frigates. One has 3 and the other has 2. I have to sell one of the 3 soon and re buy it so I can get more gold.
But sometimes it seems as if everyone has them. I don't think the number of broadsides really make a difference and the same with cargo space.

I have both ships and imo the War Frigate is the best. i can name five reasons right off the bat....
1. the war galleon is slower than the War frigate
2.the war galleon may hold more cargo but its armor isnt that good so if you barely survive getting full cargo on the war frigate, then there is no chance you can get full cargo on the war galleon.
3. the war frigate has front cannons
4. the war frigate does big damage with ram speed.
5. It just plain old looks cool! lol :)

money jam
 

thanks for your resposes. the only problem is...i want the money quick.
should i keep fighting the vets in kingshead? or would plundering be more effecient?

If they are yellow or red and you can kill them in large groups still--hence, grenades or the staff--then it is worth it. Another thing to do is to tag along with one who meets the above conditions, and, with a weapon that meets that first condition, tagging a hit (just one will do) on all the enemies as they get destroyed.

Poker is the conservative way, blackjack the faster should it go in your favor. If you decide to cheat, make sure you just entered the table. I'd suggest leaving after every moderate or large win, or leaving after a lot of small ones.

Sailing can get you the money as well. You can go on to an Ideal server, launch onto a public ship via a dinghy of large size, and just sit there and do other stuff or participate until you dock.

i prefer the war galleon over the war frigate. i'm an excellent captain and i very rarely sink. the war galleon requires more skill to stay afloat. :piratewheelgo2:

Frigate mate! More hp, faster, more crew cannons.

frigate, its faster,more guns and you have front guns in a galleon its hard to see(when your on the cannons) because you can only be on the side, as for more money I just play blackjack and cheat then when I get alot of money from cheating I just leave and then go right back at it.

1. Speed is not that important, prosperity in your ship is (War Galleon all the way)
2. War Galleon actually takes more broadsides, its only fault here is a bigger target to hit. If your not surviving on the war galleon, ye need more practice mate!
3. Only real advantage of anything, and not required.
4. So does the War Galleon, I dont think there is any real difference in this.
5. The War Galleon with its sails looks awesome, the 'look' is a personal thing obviously. I find the Frigate the ugliest boat in the game!

War Galleon does have its challenges perhaps, but I think the payoffs of cargo overall make it an excellent choice. Most those pushing the frigate are either SvS players where the Frigate likely is better, or have difficulty with sailing. I love my galleons, and I master sailing first on every pirate.

haha if you have a frigate you most have diffuculty with sail WRONG! i just like to be fast, like circling around other ships and sending them broadsides while they cant get a hit because they cant keep up, and the galleon has the most armor right? sooo why do you need all that armor becasue you take alot hits and you dont want to sink?

". The War Galleon with its sails looks awesome, the 'look' is a personal thing obviously. I find the Frigate the ugliest boat in the game!"
-Zeppers
I like the frigate more because it's ugly!. The galleons look like your steriotypical pirate ship, and seeing them all the time gets boring. Real pirates most often used sloops, due to their speed. Pirates would want to board a ship and take it, which the lumbering galleon would have trouble doing. The frigate looks more agresive to me, and though this was rare, some pirates actually used frigates. The trouble with them was the fact that they were military vessels, and that they would be harder to take. The Blackbeard and Bartholomew Roberts both had frigates at one point or another (the Queen Anne's Revenge and the Royal Fortune, respectively). Okay, I when from looks to historical accuracy at random so my post doesn't make sense any more. The point is, FRIGATES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find the Galleon boring to sail though: all sideward cannons save the rear two, slow sailing speed (seeming all the slower with the huge sails), slow turning. The Frigate is rather fun when you take advantage of those cannons.

I don't really think any of the ships in the game are ugly. I like the Sloop class the most anyway: I'd choose a War Sloop over the other ships if they had all cost the same and I just had to choose one (because you can just sell a War Galleon to buy the War Sloop, and the War Frigate when sold would put you 3/4s of the way toward the Galleon or 10k up over the Sloop).

the war frigate is awesome against A.I. ships if you have a smart crew. put 2-4 crew on the front cannons, hit a ship to get it moving toward you, position the frigate to face the incoming ship, and put it in reverse. you can help your crew with 'open fire' and/or 'leadership' as well. if done correctly, you will rarely take damage.

The war galleon is great for 2 things.
1) raising lots of loot
2) raising your sailing rep very fast

Why?

Simply because if you make padre runs on Abassa you can always get a full boat of low level pirates that are over joyed to be on a high level plunder run ship.

Just make sure when you are inclined to go privateering that you select any other ship then your prized war galleon as it is a SLOW, Very hard to steer COFFIN.

It is so big and the weak spot also so LARGE that it cannot be missed even at extremely long ranges by rookie pirates.

Now if you got a single gunner firing fury a war galleon has but seconds to live after the take cover skill is no longer in affect.

Great ship for hauling cargo but not good for using in ship versus ship as EVERYONE always sinks the war frigates first in combat. impossible to miss

Inaccurate
 

Frigates dont look like they do In the game they were like a mix between sloops and Gallons. Speedy wiith sails like a gal and heavily armed without a bellow deck.

If you are just trying to build your complete set of war ships, I'd get the war galleon first. It is less expensive than the war frigate, yet the enormous cargo holds allow you to build up a lot of gold very quickly. Once your sailing techniques are past "beginner," it makes very little difference (war frigate vs. war galleon) which you drive. They admittedly have very different "feels" though, so don't expect them to work the same, your first time out.

As a pirate, the POTCO war galleon just "looks" more like a real pirate ship. The war frigate, on the other hand, looks snazzy, but would sink when the first real wave washed over its bow. (I know that doesn't happen in POTCO, but should. Maybe when they add the Kraken? Same for all sloop class ships.)

The benefit of having front cannons might help a little in SvS, but since they are slower than war sloops, it is much less of an advantage than you'd think. When helping a single person level cannons, a frigate's front cannons can work (as described in another post above) but limits you to very few people up front who actually get a decent angle on the target. In SvS, a war galleon only helps the enemy - when you launch a war galleon in SvS, you are ONLY donating salvage points to the enemy. (Less scrupulous guilds intentionally launch war galleons from the enemy side, to replenish their hull points, much faster than if they stopped for slow repairs. Just sink the non-firing war galleon and poof, "+2600 Salvage.")

Again, if your goal is plunder (building up gold quickly) then get a war galleon first.

Actually I never thought of it that way until recently in SVS when a ship was being chased by 3 ships and the people on board actually suggested another player to launch a opposing war galleon and meet up mid route in order to sink it for salvage to repair the ship.

The things people do to cheat in this game just boggles the mind sometimes.

Sort of, but I think it was the below deck that they had, without that tower thing, though what you have in mind is due to the floor generally being level.Seems smart, though it is up there as it also can be a shield and all. As well, one as he/she is on their side can do privateer chat and relay back a new tactic back in crew and all. Still, I think it is relatively fine to do.

And although the Galleon may collect gold faster (though I think I remember a thread started by OFX that said ships with smaller holds get better quality crates or something and that they all essentially got the same loot [them being the War class]), one you get a War Frigate, the most expensive treasure there, you have less need of gold period. As well, the difference needed for the new ship would seem vast again, while it is smaller in the mind if you get the F first.

This was helpful, I know to save for the frigate now. Thanks!

I'm sorry, but that is demonstrably false. Average, median and peak hauls are simply huge on a war galleon, compared to war sloops or war frigates.

Frigates are for people that have less experience sailing, who think they get more because it costs more. A war frigate is also good for stockpiling gold, when you keep hitting 65,000, from sailing your war galleon all the time.