I want to know something!!
 

For those of you that feel that using wall hacks/glitches to level weapons.....Just how in the heck are we supposed to level or master nades?

I want to hear from the people who MASTERED them without using a glitch (including the KH fence).

IMO If anyone calls someone a cheater for using other glitches to level weapons but used the fence Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?

Seriously I want to know how the high amd mighty did it......

Well poor Sven doesn't use glitches to level and that's probably why it's his only unmastered weapon. Now i'm afraid he may never EVER get there.

Perhaps is they "correct" hex eater (let the enemy SLOWLY regenerate voodoo) i might have a chance...but only if i'm feeling particularly "grindy".

I used the fence for as long as I could get good rep, then I went to Tormenta. Since my first Pirate was pretty much a loner, I used a second computer to log onto my second account and used one my other pirates to heal while he leveled. Then I used pirate 1 to heal pirate 2. I don't know if that would be considered cheating or not.

My third Pirate had help from friends and guildmates healing while he leveled as will my 4th pirate.

I doubt if there is anyone who has lvl'd up grenades without using at the very least the Kings Head fence (I harbor the suspicion that KH fence is not a glitch but designed to be used for lvling). My only complaint is against glitchers who pull enemies I'm fighting to get rep from away from me. If they do their thing and let me do mine then I have no problem.

Yes I agree, grenades are way to hard to lvl and I feel whatever works as long as it doesn't interfere with other players is ok. And of course this is just one of the problems caused by the screwy of calculating weapon rep in POTCO.

I've used glitches as long as I've played the game, not understanding early on that they were glitches. The old (and long since fixed) Giant Crabs on Rumrunners, the KH fence, the KH invisibility/invincibility. I found one the other day by accident that was new to me. I glitched into the center rock on Outcast and naded/threw daggers at the Stumps.

I also learned last night that if you nade General Darkhart on PDF beach (the one that stands at the top of the ramp in front of the entrace to the tailor) he attacks infrequently and doesn't do much damage. Don't know if that qualifies as a glitch but you can bet I'll use it.

It's a game. If there's bugs in it I can use I will, as long as I'm not interferring with other players.

*edited to say that in spite of this, if, as Zep points out, the glitches are affecting game performance for all players (such as lag), then I think they should all be eliminated. I'd miss them, but I'd much rather have smooth play*

Who hasn't leveled at Kingshead? It's the practical location to pick up for those who venture here. I mean, as it stood, we could use voodoo enemies, but, as it stands, we can't use voodoo enemies.

Lessee here: we use Traps to get to 4. We could do a Trap boss or somethin of the sort.

I discovered a perfect way to level 'nades for you high levels, 35+.

Bosses.

I was in Beckett's Quarry where that boss is behind a rail. So I decided to throw a grenade at him. He couldn't come down though, but if he did they can only move so far I guess. So he stood there and I continued throwing. I got about 105 rep with crew bonus! Trust me, bring at least somebody with siege there cuz his hp doenst move down that fast.

Sounds like your talking about Neban. He can come down from the platform. He came down once while I was just standing there, no weapon draw. He and a couple of Navy guys killed me. I've seen him come down a couple of other times as well. This guy is very tough. Most people will want to double team him at least. A healer is a very good idea. I would NOT just casually lob grenades at him, unless you like jail.

To be honest, I could never work the fence at KH so I won't miss it. I started working in the other direction with them after a guildmate showed me how. Stand behind and to the right of the group on the parade ground. Lob a grenade at the middle guy in the back row and back up towards the corner of the fort. If all goes right and your aim is adjusted (that is the hardest thing to get used to with Grenades) you should be able to take out the group with 5 or 6 grenades and only take a couple of hits. Assuming they stay together as a group and don't go wandering off.

Ok, so before I give my way of doing gernades, I'm not 'totally sure' what are considered glitches (was the fence a glitch? I don't think so... what I believe now is a true glitch - we cant run through the fence but they can... that to me is a glitch) so my method below may / may not fit...

As I'm sure you've read I've been optspoken a few times this week about how the latest fixes are a joke... so the answer here is just to answer the question.

Of course the way I did it was Hex Shot and the Gypsys at Padres Beach - but only until I got up a few levels to get Firebomb. Then Gernades just beacme part of my 500 REP Weapon Rotation (Instructed by Ironhawk... we're gonna miss that Hex Shot :( ).

As part of the rotation, the gerds would pull in about 50-60 REP in their part of the cycle, more once other weapons began to master and were left out of the rotation...

So thats how I did it (and the reason being... I was TERRIBLE at the fence... I couldnt hit the broadside of a barn with them things! LOL :D )

No High and Mighty Here...

Worked the traps to lev four, then camped out at the fence on KH for a few days. Now...I consider nades maxed at lev 20. I got siege, yay me, DONE. The irony lies in that I'm really good at nades...I can back run, side step, pivot, toss, and not miss a thing. I just HATE them. Pity.

Max, you should have asked, I've given countless lessons at the fence...oh well. Who want's a dancing with the grenades lesson? ;)

One of my friends on pirates online mastered grenades the old fashion way but...
He mastered them before the rep was cut. He told me it was hard but he knows it was easier then than now.

My grenades are level fifteen.
I don't plan on using wall hacks. I'll master it the old fashion way. It is hard but I'm getting there.


Sarah: Wow really? You got that giant grenade? Well I think if you can do it I can to. :) (With long hours and work)

LOL Mac, I got that giant grenade on three of four pirates, and all at the fence at kings. Four my poor fourth pirate...gonna have to dance with them on her. Maybe by the time POTCO is two, she'll have them ;)

I didn't mean to sound so snippy in my OP. I was just Poed because I read in so many places today that anyone who uses ANY glitch was a cheater. I wanted to vent LOL.

Since everyone put in their two cents on how they did it , I'll add mine. I have finially mastered all weapons leave cuttlass....yes including nades. When I first got them I got into the KH invincible glitch. I then just stood in the middle of the platoon until they all turned green. I didn't have to worry about nading myself to death LOL.

I then moved to the lava pit in the catacombs. At first there I had to only use the first raider and Officer. Then as I progressed I could use the second then third group all at once. Took about a week straight but I made it.

As for my doll, thanks to the rep chart posted I learned WHICH curses to use. I logged on both pirates and hit the platoon on KH. Even as grey tags If I attuned all 5 I could get 100 rep per vet. (just ask the wenches...They saw me do it.) So at 100 each times 5....Then add the 20 percent crew bonous I was getting 600 rep per cycle on the platoon.....EASY way to master doll LOL.

So in NO way am I high and mighty I used every advantage I had to master my weapons....

Now for a good laugh....Jezz is 38 with everything mastered but Sail, Cutt, and Cannon.....The cannons are only a level nine LMBO!!! She aint even got lightening.......

I too don't believe per say that the KH fence is a glitch...hiding in a wall or in an area that's not supposed to be reachable to me is...my theory is face your enemy...don't hide like a coward stuck in a wall...or pop out last minute after someone else has done all the hard work just so you can get a hit or two in when the enemy is practically defeated...

You can only go so far with KH, so from there the best place would probably be Menta...even with Hex Eater fixed, if you get the attention of 3 Molusks at the same time, they'll basically follow you and more or less line up...easy nading there...

Plus make sure you have a crew...the more the merrier and it adds to the rep...and remember the smoke grenade is your friend...wear them down with it before using a different one...

Well, they boosted the rep gained from green and gray enemies, so eh... if you can sustain the damage, say with a level 20 or so Doll, it can still work.

I know I have already stated basically what I have done, even previously to this release, and you better get them done if you hadn't, or not going to be fun.
I usually went directly to the crab on tortuga and worked up first 4 levels. Then Kings fence. Work proper level up in hex shot and work several gypsy on the beach until several Molusk in Tormenta.

I really looked at why this was done, and all the barrier glitches fixed. One thing I possibly could come up with is pvp using the rock to hide in to heal etc. Then it dawned on me, what good is that, we still aren't creatures and able to go right through it to the enemy.

So can't explain this any better than anyone else, even trying to over think it. Solo elimination my best answer.

On test finally did last couple levels on Urchinfist two at a time. Usually took one potion each round. They nicely lined up and stayed back to throw at. This would be what I would recommend for later levels, and with toughness 5 points, change back later if ya don't want that. One of the few perks now, work at something then change things around after completing it. Maybe take 5 in endurance as well, where my guys are pretty much set maybe not a skill ya want to mess with.

At lower levels I would try out now the bosses and test if its worth it/ ammo/ time. I probably would head to baby Urchinfist if I was going to work them, grenadier. Also a easy spot at the beach/ ammo shop. Alt characters now make this a lot easier, with healing and crew bonus, versus several characters I did before hand.

Molusk seemed to be glitched a bit on test, so hitting them many times they would stay following you and never set. Causing ya to hit yourself if you weren't careful, though I killed them hitting myself as well many times coming out more health then them.

master all 4 pirates on g-nades mostly at the wall in the catacombs and on the stairs there, not sure if the catacomb been fix. back beach at pdf and crabs on rum runner. didn"t do a whole lot at kh. one thing i did do was use dbl rep days, that help get there alot quicker.
but do agree that they fix the wrong glitches if they dont hurt any one else why waste time fixin, when there so much else that need fixin.

well, i must correct my previous post because i actually used a "glitch" last night and finally leveled up my nades...still got a long way to got before they are mastered.

I had forgotten about the roof glitch on the back beach of padres. Until i found one of the bosses...general something...at the top of the steps of the tailor hut.

Rackat and Sven were there killing him with a healer as we were leveling his pistol and my grenades from the beach. then i remembered the roof glitch.

So i tried attacking him from the roof and it appears he can't move off the platform of the tailor hut when you are on the adjacent roof. since his weapon is a dagger he can only throw it at you...which greatly decreases the damage he causes...over time.

so...one of those wierd scenarios where i had to glitch to get to the roof. but is it still considered using a glitch to level if you can still take on damage?

anyway, if ya see me up on the roof pop on up to say hi and lob a grenade or two.

I just had to say I find it funny how many people call us cheaters for using glitches but when asked how they did it you hear nothing......

Cone on holier than thou tell us cheaters how you did it so we can become high and mighty too.......

Yep I'm frustrated!!!! ....and prego

Bella, I am going out on a limb here..so don't saw off the branch, k?

I call glitchers that use the glitches against OTHER pirates Cheaters.

I call people that have found a way to level weapons using a glitch nothing.

In SvS/Privateering, it iritates me to no end when another pirate is using a glitch (invulnerable/invisible/etc) against everyone else and is therefore "winning". I call that player a cheater.

In PvP when a pirate uses a glitch against his oponent, it is cheating.

When you are by yourself, or with your crew/guild using a glitch to level your weapons and NOT INTERFERING WITH OTHER PIRATES, then there is nothing cheating about it.

Congratz on leveling up your family! :D

Rackat, I'm not exactly sure, but I think Bella is one of the "cheaters" so called... hmm, no matter what's she criticizing, she's a pointed critic, non?

no matter what's she criticizing, she's a pointed critic, non?

uh oh...this can't end well.

Bella never claimed not to use glitches (read the first post) - what she was looking for was anyone who levelled gernades whithout having to glitch them...

The definition is still a bit fuzzy on what a glitch is (is it D's definition where Hex and the Fence were broken? or is it ours where the fence and hex were fine and players were doing thing like the undead unlimited ammo glitch...)

Currently - everyone is just posting how they have done it - and everyone has to judge for themselves if the player was glitching or not :)

Nice job. :D
I must be really slow because I haven't made a new pirate. My first pirate is one level away from level forty.
Now I feel slow. I started the first day and don't even have my pirate mastered.

Well time to go work on the grenades.

I was referring to the ones that think that ANY glitch to lv weapons is cheating. Those are the ones that I am up in arms about LOL. I just wanted to hear how they did it with NO glitches. Personally I do not care how one levels their weapons (obviously LOL)

I have to agree with Rackat, if a glitch is used aginst another player in SvS or PvP THAT is cheating....If you use one for leveling and bother NO ONE ELSE just who am I or anyone else to say a word about it.

I do applolgise if anyone misunderstood my intentions in this post. I an (well was) sick and tiered of minding my own buisness in KH invinciblity glitch and people running up and calling me every name in the book when I was not even bothering them. They were the ones to enter KH and find me......

And Yes I was verry snippy in my posts.....However they were not directed at anyone specific. They were to the ones here and ingame that threw a fit if anyone used a bug to level weapons. I just wanted to know how they did it.

Personally, If big D felt the fence and hex was/is a glitch then I see NO way to master nades.

If this is the case then those who complained about the invincible, wall hacks, and catacombs lava pit, but, used the fence are a pot calling the kettle black....according to Big D anyway.

Again sorry for any misunderstanding.

As for me being a pointed critic.....Find me one pregnant woman on near bedrest and hormone injections and a foot or two in the ribs that isnt. (in other words yep I am one :buds:)

*climbs back in from the branch*

Shoo! I was hoping I was on the right track. :D

I have a new place to level weapons, particularly grenades once you get to the late teens and early twenties. I'd be happy to show you the sweet spot. Give me a time and server and I'd be happy to share my newfound spot with ya. :)

would that spot happen to be in the catacombs?

Nope. :D But catch me in game Swash and I'll show you too.

MacIronhwak, don't feel bad. I also started day 1 and got one pirate to level 26 before she shorted out and I had to start over. Jade is about to turn Level 36. I don't know how all those who have mastered 4 pirates do it. I don't have hours every day to spend on the game--10 hours a week is about average.

Anyhoo, I have my nades at level 18, about to turn 19. I have never used a glitch. Just lots of time throwing them at anything red. I tend to use PDF's beach. For some reason Tormenta and I just don't jive. My strategy for this pirate has been to level all things together. Seems easier to manage that way.

Is it Cutthroat or Outcast??

Neither. It is PDF.

I say the only real way now is to friend some limited people with nothing to do. Crew them up, have them heal you on Outcast, and you're set. It's what I've been doing the last few days and all. Rackat, I'd like that spot as well.

I will be on Martinaba Ocean, PDF beach. Look for James Buffitt next to the tattoo parlor. Dunno how long I will be there, but let me know you're from POF.