Training Grenades (help)
 

Im having a real hard time lvlin up my grenades. And i looked all over this site for a guide. And i would also like to know WHERE the best place to train them is... I am currently a lvl 3 grenader, and have explosive and stink bomb.


EDIT: Today im a lvl 4 grenader with long volly, explosive, and stink bomb

I think that is up in the air with all the new changes this week. I was just in kingshead and noticed that no one was behind the fence in the parade grounds - so I took a shot at the soldiers and they came right thru the fence and attacked me. Happened both times I tried so I guess that option is out. I have no idea how people will lvl granades now at least not efficiently.

Anyone else notice the soldiers coming thru the fence now?

I have noticeed. They also like fall down from the sky... and they dissapear, so you cant attac them, then they will kill you :( this thread is getting a little off subject ;)

Blade - had you asked this question last week, I would of pointed you to several threads about using Kingshead, Tormenta and Padres to accomplish the task...

As it is - with the new updates and the loss of several features which to use for levelling Gernades... the question I don't believe can be answered just yet :(

Players are going to need a few days to figure out taticts and areas which levelling may be possible.

But i dont get it... it still doesnt change how i train i dont think... or where i train. im only a lvl 4 grenader

It does change how you train the grenades because the first and best advice people would have given you is go to Kingshead parade grounds get behind the fence and use the soldiers to train. This worked because the soldiers (with the rare exception) would stop at the fence unable to attack yousee the sticky at the top of the weapons forum). Now with that gone, no one has come up with a good substitute. Also with all the changes nobody is sure what to suggest because they can't be sure what still works

if u want siege charge so badly... u need your grenades lvl 17 till the veterans are green of the group. when the veterans are green go to padres, then go to lava gorge, then to catacombs. then when u go to catacombs there is a area that has lava in it. which is in your right side of the entrance when u enter catacombs. thats where i trained my grenades to get siege charge

This doesnt work anymore if its what I think your talking about. The raiders/officers/mercs run right through the rock wall and kill ya standing there on the lava bed (where we used to be safe).

Basically it seems to me, they made it so fences, rocks, and walls, no longer stop a mob, they have a "Green light" no matter what and run right through.


Since Hex no longer works as it used to, De-hexing voodoo mobs and pounding them with grenades is out as well.

Grenades is going to be way tough now.

I'll tell you one i use usually to get started before I go to KH. Should work, it relied on no glitchs.
I go to Driftwood, one end of the island has 3 Giant crabs fairly close, I hit them with stinkpot, get them all chasing me, and bombard them as I walk backwards. Be sure to turn around on occasion if you wander to far from thier original spot, they will disengage.

For now, this seems the best option, however, they don't disengage anymore, at least not when I tried. Only problem is tagging several other critters as you're backing up tossing rocks. You're going to need a healer, for this one, too. Used to be so easy to solo...

i never said i wanted that charge thing...

Don't most people doing grenades or at least did at kingshead do it with someone else so they could tp back to reload ammo? I'm doing that right now and having the second person heal while standing in the middle of the six pack. I was always better at dropping them at my feet.

This does support the idea of team work and team play.

But you get so little rep when doing that.

You know, Volley can be blocked: if an enemy is close by, you can hit them with Volley by just applying it minimally.

Now that the Kingshead fence no longer works, it is pretty hard to level grenades. I would say you could attack the soldiers on Kingshead while backing up but there is another glitch with this update that prohibits this, the soldiers can attack you from far away. I am not sure anymore.:)

If that catacomes glitch still works you can use that.

The "Glitch" still works, that is you can get there, but the mobs just run through any barriers and attack you... even if your standing in heaven while ya do it.. lol So it doesnt work that well for leveling anymore.

I have a thing that happens where i throw a grenade and it dissappears, doesnt go off, or where it just goes through the floor, if they dont explode how am i supposed to do anything with them?

Just cause that one doesn't work anymore doesn't mean thats the only one in there. There are others that are useful in there for grenade leveling.

Anndreeuhh is right there is more than 1 spot to lvl in the catacombs....and I assume she is talking about the one I showed her before lol. Thats where I mastered nades on both of my pirates.

Theres that one Sven and another. Its ridiculously hard to get in, but it works just as good.

Ridiculously hard to get in? lol thats one of the EASIEST glitches for me to do. The only thing I don't get is.....how come I only find this AFTER they fixed the old one?

No not that one that you showed me. Theres another in there.

I probably know what one too.....but I am not sure lol

Maybe. Maybe not. I'll show you the next time I see you.

ive been training nades by throwing them at the undead gypsy boss on the pdf back beach.sometimes i do half with nades and half with dagger or gun.then get almost 100 rep for each weapon i use.

This last character I made to go through all the new effects in the game, I have been surprised I am not really having to much a problem with grenades.

Grenadiers have probably been one of the easier critters than anything. When you get toughness put 5 points in it, and you can get to the point of 3 at a time with using smoke bombs.

Padres beach raider/gypsy by the armory will not go through the boat as well.

I have found Tortuga swamp a good camp spot now. Three grenadier can be pulled together, as well as altering to the boss for other skills.

Live server you can always throw another character in there for healing or just crew bonus.

I finished the character before this one in grenades with urchinfist, just a pain in trips for ammo. A lot of the time while working other things, if there is a chance also work grenades. Same ideals work as before just not a free target. If you can get three at a time with smoke bombs, that can be around 300 rep while taking a single grouping of ammo.

hey guys, just so you know, there is one spot in the fence they can not go through in kh. I was there today and finished mastering them. If you go to the section of fence where there is a break, count five posts over on the longer section, stand directly behind it and back up about four or five steps, they will not come through 80 percent of the time. I was able to run the 20 percent they did. If anyone needs me to show them this, just send me a pm. Hope this helps with the grenade question.

And before anyone disagrees, it does work, on that small section, you have to be right there in the certain spot, and they WILL come through if you move right or left even one step. So maybe it was fixed for the fence itself but not the posts? I dunno, but I was glad to get them out of the way so I can move my lvl 28 to 30 and get my staff. Happy hunting!

I found two methods that work well for me. First, if you go in the cave on PDF near Fort Dundee and walk near the left, across the lava lake there are usually 2 brigands or grenadiers (around level 15ish) and 2 soldiers (around level 10). I just bomb them and they float across the lava to me, which makes them easier to hit. I have also recently went to Cutthroat Island to work on a quest, and my grenades seemed to be leveling fairly well when I bombed some of the Spanish skeletons on the island.

Cool! I'm gonna have to try that sometime.

Yeah I happen to go today to kings , and thought I would try it out. Near the front entrance I found a spot that the soldiers didn't come through at all, a easy several levels in staff done with a little more in grenade.

I just go into the middle of the field in Kingshead, forget that stupid fence ****. Maybe my aim is better than others, but I have no problems with the formation. Just lob a grenade from afar into the center formation, then just back up as you throw while they're coming at you, when they get close, you can throw one and as soon as it's out of your hand, strafe to the side, this way you won't get hit by your own grenade blast. After they're all dead just sit there and let your HP come back as you wait for the formation to reappear. I've done this since my grenades were at level 1 and now they're at around 12 (took no time at all). They've never killed me.

I have no doubt there are more ways, just the most well known methods no longer work as they did before. People usually share glitchs with me the day before they are fixed... how it always works for me. Oh well. lol

Some places, particularly in forts, you must hit the enemy directly with the grenade to get a hit. This is a known issue, and Disney's stated workaround is to hit the NPC with the grenade.

LOL

Pirate: "Yes, I'd like to complain that sometimes my grenades will hit the floor and not go off or go right through it.

Disney: "Why don't you aim better?"


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The reason to use the fence is you can throw 10 -15 smoke bombs so you can get massive rep. Using regular grenades can be used easy backing away, but a bit more a problem trying to throw 15 first many times/ and depending your level and passives. Three weeks now and at 17 not working them really hard.

Zep cross your fingers maybe you can go use the quick cast desolation this next curse event, haha.

I think you get more rep for weaker grenades. Oh, and the closer you are to the fence, the less chance they'll run through (they still do it, but less often and it takes them longer).

Yeah, I stand up on the hill near the far corner of the fort and just chuck a nade into the group. Soon they come running up. Mostly because I don't really like using the fence glitch because it's wrong and it's no fun if I don't really earn experience fairly. I got this idea and I may have to try it: I'm gonna try going to the fort on KH to the top floor, then try chucking some grenades down to the bottom floor soldiers. See what happens. :zu02ol:

Well when I did this they just ran around like they lost their rum heheh.

Everyone has their own methods, and for those that feel certain methods are not fare, no problem there. After all, once completing the skill anyways, its basically end game at that point.

I do have a saying I am going to stick with though, "pirates don't make mistakes, they just aren't working with a full deck of cheat cards."

Soldiers though, just are not smart, think we all watched the movies. So if they don't want to go around and use the gate/opening to the fence, that is their tough luck.

As for weakest grenades the smoke bombs are, actually states on them no damage. They do do damage though but by far the least amount, thus why a lot can be used to build up rep per kill.

As for throwing down at enemies, the new build of them attacking you has made some interesting results. Nothing like flying in the air and dropping grenades straight down far enough you aren't touched by them while enemies stay on you down there.

Or maybe that's just 'cause I took it. :buds: Woops! Wasn't supposed to say that! :psmiley35: Guess I'll have to try this sometime.

Nades
 

To work on Nades, start at Kings until you reach about lvl 10 to 12. then move to Padres cave the grassy area El S. is the best. work there until you are about lcl 17 to 20 then move to tormenta. Yep thats the game plan :o)