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Edward Edgemenace 10-01-2008 06:34 PM

First skill I will remove on voodoo staff
 
The first skill I will remove on voodoo staff is that one point on Soul Flay that is given to you at the start, even though you don't want it.

That skill point has killed me at least 5 times on the Black Pearl. I WANTED WITHER! I PRESET WITHER! Ahhhhhhhh....splat.

So, what about you? For voodoo staff, what is on your hit list? (Not a poll, as I want to hear the reasons why, for each.)

Dr. Zeppers 10-01-2008 06:37 PM

Well I use soul flay, more fun on low levels than just zap gone.
I will reduce however everything to 1 point save wither keeping it bumped up.

My first point to remove from staff will be Desolation...
now THEREs a waste unless you just want the 'looks cool' factor, cool isnt a look.. so I wont worry about it.

BTW, I always hit F6 and the 3 the second my pirate materializes on the deck of the pearl. :)

Rackat 10-01-2008 07:49 PM

Lv40 - Iam Rackat - Rebuild for SvS
Staff:
Desolation - remove the skill point. What a waste.
Wither - will have 5 points
All other attacks will be at 1
Passives will be maxed.

Doll:
Max passives
Increase Attune to 4
Increase Heal points

Cutlass:
Max passives
others are ok the way they are.

Dager:
Max passives

Pistol:
Meh, don't care. Max passives and see what I have left

Grenades:
See "Pistol"

Sailing:
Max passives, Broadsides and Ramming Speed - SvS
Will look at the other skills and decide at the time

Cannon:
Max Passives
Max Fury
Will look at others and decide

lv40 - Francis Seahawk - Probably won't change much except Staff and Doll.

lv35 - James Buffitt - still time to make him the way I want. Will adjust if needed.

Edward Edgemenace 10-01-2008 08:05 PM

Rackat: For sailing, how will you allocate 40 points? Did I read what you have there, wrong?

Pistol. Interesting. I'll max passives and shoot. Four in round shot, 1 point in hex eater, one in take aim. Other people may want round shot at 1, steel shot at 3. But pistol could be a different thread, perhaps.

MacIronhawk 10-02-2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 76389)
Rackat: For sailing, how will you allocate 40 points? Did I read what you have there, wrong?

Pistol. Interesting. I'll max passives and shoot. Four in round shot, 1 point in hex eater, one in take aim. Other people may want round shot at 1, steel shot at 3. But pistol could be a different thread, perhaps.

I think so.
The level forty, I believe, is for his mastered pirate.
I'll remove a skill point from one hex I put on wither.
I ment to put it on another passive skill.
:h-skull:

Swash 10-02-2008 01:23 AM

I will be doing a Lot of Skill Point Editing.

Rackat 10-02-2008 01:36 AM

I'll max out the ones I can. The others will have one skill point.

League 10-02-2008 01:59 AM

I may edit a few points with Dodger: he's the only one who's been invested in with points. I'd decided to test the skills first with Dog Swordflint. Everything gets two points, unless it obviously doesn't need testing, like that last Dagger passive. I can imagine that bonus easily enough, etc.

And I don't think we'll be able to remove starting points. If we do, it'll be a problem.

Poison elf 10-02-2008 01:52 PM

I already see some not so good ideas. 4 points count the same as five points in some skills, so its a waste to put more than 4. Doing a build here in last month I have seen cannon not stacking up properly, though may be just my character. Really makes ya wonder what will happen changing things like this. With some of this stuff based off level, how will you know you got the right stats back?

mlratto 10-02-2008 10:24 PM

re: Staff redistribution
 
So i'm lookin' at my staff specs via DxD and i see i have 5 points in the Combat skill blast.

can someone tell me what the heck blast does and do i really need 5 points in it?

I have 3 in Concentration, Spirit lore and Spirit Mastery but 0 in Conservation...so i'd love to move 3 into Conservation.

Then i'll take 1 from whither, currently at 4, and max out Flaming Skull, currently at 4.

i'll keep 1 point in Desolation only because i am hoping that they eventually reduce the damage it does to you. I'm hoping they do that when they introduce the new Boss enemies.

Leon Mcflint 10-02-2008 10:31 PM

I'd get rid of Banish that was a complete waste to me

Deadpool 10-02-2008 10:31 PM

I'm good on staff i maxed flaming skull and wither i don't have desolation yet but i'll just put 1 point on it i want all moves for all weapons. I REALLY want to redo doll though. I can't believe i maxed scorch. I'll rearrange a few on cutlass to have max blade storm and thats about it.

Leon Mcflint 10-02-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Ironbones (Post 76944)
I'm good on staff i maxed flaming skull and wither i don't have desolation yet but i'll just put 1 point on it i want all moves for all weapons. I REALLY want to redo doll though. I can't believe i maxed scorch. I'll rearrange a few on cutlass to have max blade storm and thats about it.

How much damage that scorch do maxed?

Deadpool 10-02-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonMcflint523 (Post 76947)
How much damage that scorch do maxed?

Not enough it just looks good... and sounds good.

Leon Mcflint 10-02-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Ironbones (Post 76951)
Not enough it just looks good... and sounds good.

lol to bad good thing the "reassigning" is coming

Joseph 10-02-2008 10:42 PM

The first point ill be taking off is desolation.

Deadpool 10-02-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonMcflint523 (Post 76953)
lol to bad good thing the "reassigning" is coming

I would train now to get life drain so i can max it but thats at lv 20 doll and the newest weapon upgrades will unlock at lv 20 and i don't want the quest to add up lol first one i'll be working on is cutlass THEN doll.

Leon Mcflint 10-02-2008 11:07 PM

So true so true

AdmiralSavvy 10-03-2008 01:09 AM

The first that I'm taking off is Soul Flay, then I'm taking back the wasted skill points that I used on Banish and Desolation. I thought that they would be good for leveling at first but now they're only good for show and tell. ;)

Edward Edgemenace 10-03-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 76302)
BTW, I always hit F6 and the 3 the second my pirate materializes on the deck of the pearl. :)

Doing that kills you. Pressing "3" within 1 second is too early and is ignored. (Go ahead, ask me how many @#$%@# times I died because of this. Go ahead. I dare ya.) :)

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Originally Posted by League (Post 76721)
And I don't think we'll be able to remove starting points. If we do, it'll be a problem.

Wow, I hope you are wrong. I can't think of any reason you would be wrong, but MAN I do hope you are, this time!

League 10-03-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AdmiralSavvy (Post 77082)
The first that I'm taking off is Soul Flay, then I'm taking back the wasted skill points that I used on Banish and Desolation. I thought that they would be good for leveling at first but now they're only good for show and tell. ;)

It says spent skill points in the news. I hope and expect starting skill points to be unretainable. Thrust. Thrust. Thrust. That'd be a ridiculously stupid way for combat to be done in the game.

As for the question asked about Blast: all you do is press control. It makes for good leveling, and is costless. You can use it while voodoo recharges without impending it. I rather like it, even though it does very little damage. It doesn't charge either, so you can run as you use it, or take steps backward.

POTCO fan 10-06-2008 03:18 AM

ok desolation does kinda stink but it is a good training move for the 3 dots to lv 22 to 25 in kingshead but with rellocation i am gonna smack them all down to 0 i will also take off pestilence(takes too long to charge for little damage) and banish(too much voodoo and really too long to charge and the undead thing)and i am gonna take off soul flay and i might leve 1 point in desolation (for people who heal me during flags) and then max out them passives yay!

Davy Darkrage 10-06-2008 03:52 AM

Just FYI guys, you visit an NPC at a blacksmith who will reset all of your skill points for that weapon for 250 gold the first time and 2500 each time after that. So, not very practical to change them around a lot, and you can't move just one or two around.

Edward Edgemenace 10-06-2008 08:41 AM

2500gp in-game is astonishingly little. It means you could individually max out ten of the eleven items for any weapon, on the first two passes then put together a real build on the third try. Spread across four pirates, you won't be expending much in-game gold at all.

League 10-07-2008 02:27 AM

Actually, that's beside the point. You can simply redo your sails, and get Treasure Sense maxed alongside maneuverability-increasing moves and Open Fire for quick, easy moola.

Maximvs 10-07-2008 03:33 AM

Once again, I must warn everyone that the current prices for reassignment might be easy to allow for testers to try the options - as many of us just don't have the cash like we do with our Live 40 pirates... thesee prices may change as it gets closer to live - and I'd hate to see anyone get 'shocked' when they do finally come out :D

Stormhawk 10-07-2008 05:37 AM

I think the first skill point i will remove on staff is from pestilence. I mean who uses pestilence? At least I don't. I want to max flame since it is pretty powerful. Oh and I want to max Desolation. Desolation is not useless like everyone says it is. You can kill several lvl 25s in one hit of desolation. I know, it takes down your health. Then just take a tonic after you use it. Desoltaion is useful as a life saver because it can never kill you.:)

Edward Edgemenace 10-07-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormhawk (Post 78904)
...Desoltaion is useful as a life saver because it can never kill you.:)

...Can never kill you on its own. But the fatally long charge time (compared to wither) can kill you. I seriously doubt it does more damage per second. But if you have to take a bathroom break, it is good to let desolation charge up...or go out for pizza...or catch a movie...

Another problem with desolation skill, is that one hit puts your max voodoo below 50%...casting again immediately is not possible without tonic. But even then, you can't manage to do three strikes in one minute. The second strike (with tonic) will happen within 20 seconds, but the third strike will be a while. With wither, I can fire 18 rank 5 shots in a minute, without resorting to tonic. The officers on the Black Pearl only rarely, will last for 7 blasts.

The only situation I might think that desolation might be needed, is when you are alone on the colossus, with level 37 officers and all 6 charge you. But desolation won't kill any of them on that first shot. Therefore, you are dead anyhow. But you'd be dead long before desolation finished its charge-up.

Desolation is only good for astronomically stupid stunts. Like trying to foil a rep-stealer on Kingshead. Or showing off on a busy server.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximvs (Post 78892)
Once again, I must warn everyone that the current prices for reassignment might be easy to allow for testers to try the options - as many of us just don't have the cash like we do with our Live 40 pirates... thesee prices may change as it gets closer to live - and I'd hate to see anyone get 'shocked' when they do finally come out :D

I hope they are at least ten times more expensive on open! Playing around with builds on test is fine - maybe they can keep low prices there?


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