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SangrelX 09-22-2008 10:09 PM

View your Debug info
 
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LOL wanna see another good one

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...1&d=1222121289



See your Ping in game!

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...1&d=1222121486

Chris 09-22-2008 10:10 PM

I see a red x.

Dr. Zeppers 09-22-2008 10:12 PM

Nothing new bud....

Matter of fact, they tell EVERYONE to do this on thier bug report page.

SHIFT + F1

Do that and take a screen when reporting a bug.

SangrelX 09-22-2008 10:12 PM

its new to me LOL i didnt realize u could do that

LOL and SHIFT + F2 Logs u out
and so does ALT + F4 it logs u out too

ive found a few others that are more intersting lol will post later right now im playing with em

Chris 09-22-2008 10:26 PM

Oh ok i see the picture now. Also no that isnt the SHIFT - F1 the he is doing is SHIFT - F6

SangrelX 09-22-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 72728)
Oh ok i see the picture now. Also no that isnt the SHIFT - F1 the he is doing is SHIFT - F6

No there is 2 pictures there chris

maybe your not seing em both for some reason

the first picture is SHIFT + F1
Second Picture is SHIFT + F6

And I found that along with ALT + F4 and SHIFT + F2 logging you out
that if you hit ALT + F6 it Pauses your game

if you hold ALT + F6 down it stays paused until you let it up or move around

ALSO hitting ALT + ESC seems to Instantly drop the game down to minimized window (it seems thats a Default windows Shortcut key LOL)

Chris 09-22-2008 10:39 PM

Yes i am only seeing ths second one the first one i believe is a red x for me.

Edward Edgemenace 09-22-2008 10:40 PM

Argggh. Should have done shift-F1 on all the dig spots.

Mr.LoveLocket 09-22-2008 10:42 PM

Always happens to me :/

Swash 09-22-2008 11:25 PM

On del compters to minimize your pirates screen you press the button that looks like a flag.

SangrelX 09-22-2008 11:26 PM

Thats the Windows Key

it is supposed to open the Start Menu when you hit it

Captain Seaford 09-23-2008 11:16 PM

Shift + F6 does that
Shift + F1, tells you the sever and other stuff which idk. Not a glitch.

SangrelX 09-24-2008 12:27 AM

Seaford,

Yea technically its not a real glitch - just more of an interesting find i thought -- then someone mentioned its part of the bug reporting instructions - pull the debug info and latency when sending a bug report

lol I had no clue - I dont even know how to send a bug report - haven't really tried to

I did find the ALT + f6 interesting - after doing some digging I found a few keys and their function names

ALT + F6 is called the Resync Key
Basically in Networking Terms this means to Pause your entire Game itself while the data stream back and fourth to the server is catching up - its basically a mini - reconnect
it does lower your latency (ping) when you have been playing a while as it allows the data to refresh and catch up

Give it a shot after a hour or 2 of playing you can compare latency

I have also found the following keys and what they are called

SHIFT + F11 (The Kraken Key -- Does nothing on open servers - but I think on test servers when they had Kraken in the works it was how they called it on command to test its function and models - thats my educated guess atleast)

just some interesting info

Edward Edgemenace 09-24-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 73064)
SHIFT + F11 (The Kraken Key -- Does nothing on open servers - but I think on test servers when they had Kraken in the works it was how they called it on command to test its function and models - thats my educated guess atleast)

just some interesting info

I'll have to try that on the Black Pearl, during the Goliath segment. I wonder...

SangrelX 09-24-2008 04:34 AM

I have no idea what its for or does - but the name caught my eye LOL

if it does something in the BB lol let us know - that would be insane to find out it calls the kraken in the Boss Battle ****

Dr. Zeppers 09-24-2008 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 73064)
ALT + F6 is called the Resync Key

Does absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 73064)
SHIFT + F9 = Screenshot Viewer (Regular F9 Takes Screenshots and is labeled ScreenShot and Shift + F9 takes em too but its labeled Screenshot Viewer)

Does absolutely nothing.

SangrelX 09-24-2008 05:41 AM

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ALT - F6 does work

Here is a screen shot of using ALT F6 to lower my ping by refreshing

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...1&d=1222235408


you wont see it pausing the game unless u have something moving around in front of you when you hold em down
just hold em down and watch i assure you it does work lol

Also your right on Shift + F9 -- I must have been hitting F9 without shift down by accident and thinking I had Shift Down

Dr. Zeppers 09-24-2008 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 72729)
ALSO hitting ALT + ESC seems to Instantly drop the game down to minimized window (it seems thats a Default windows Shortcut key LOL)

Yes it is, for changing from one task to another, a shortend version of Alt-Tab



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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 73228)
ALT - F6 does work

Here is a screen shot of using ALT F6 to lower my ping by refreshing

you wont see it pausing the game unless u have something moving around in front of you when you hold em down
just hold em down and watch i assure you it does work lol

Also your right on Shift + F9 -- I must have been hitting F9 without shift down by accident and thinking I had Shift Down


Alt F6 displays nothing when pressed, or held down, not when something moves around me, or even when im fighting. It did however pause my screen and cause my mouse to not work anymore. I guess my system/connection is just to excellent for it to question any latency.

EDIT: NVM I figured it out.. You said ALT F6 (in your last post about it, giving it a title) its SHIFT F6 as stated in a few prior posts I had missed. ALt-F6 did actually pause my game as mentioned.

SangrelX 09-24-2008 06:17 AM

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EDIT: NVM I figured it out.. You said ALT F6 (in your last post about it, giving it a title) its SHIFT F6 as stated in a few prior posts I had missed. ALt-F6 did actually pause my game as mentioned.
yea I had said Shift + F6 shows your ping / latency
ALT + F6 - resyncs your data with that of the server - like a mini - reconnection

Glad you got that figured out lol

Edward Edgemenace 09-24-2008 05:35 PM

By spamming my boat-mates, with shift-F6 I was able to conclude nothing at all. When a glitch ship is near, the latency is not out of range (100-500ms) and sync also remains in range (5-100ms.) Yet in gameplay, I experience lockups of 2 to 20 seconds regularly, still. The ping times in this context are nothing but a curiosity, as the server is where the cheats are happening. Note that for this type of ping-test, the first response is usually wrong (path discovery for UDP instead of TCP.)

Alt-F6 does not pause the game.

Dr. Zeppers 09-24-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 73233)
ALT + F6 - resyncs your data with that of the server - like a mini - reconnection

How do you figure?
Nothing is displayed there is no response or display or acknowledgement of any kind whatsoever.
If it did anything caused maybe a very brief pause (had to hold it down).
There is no change in game play either.

The other problems I determined was just because I had been holding down the key filling the keybuffer.



Edward, video lag has nothing to do with ping, that is likely the cause especially when caused by ammo types that are graphic intense (ie fire/lightning/fury)

Captain Seaford 09-24-2008 09:32 PM

So, does Shift + F11 say anything?

Edward Edgemenace 09-24-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Seaford (Post 73367)
So, does Shift + F11 say anything?

Didn't do anything for me in the earlier segments of the BB, but I forgot to try it when facing Goliath. There is only about 5 seconds to try doing it, on a typical BB.

SangrelX 09-25-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 73321)
How do you figure?
Nothing is displayed there is no response or display or acknowledgement of any kind whatsoever.
If it did anything caused maybe a very brief pause (had to hold it down).
There is no change in game play either.

The other problems I determined was just because I had been holding down the key filling the keybuffer.



Edward, video lag has nothing to do with ping, that is likely the cause especially when caused by ammo types that are graphic intense (ie fire/lightning/fury)

Quote:

By spamming my boat-mates, with shift-F6 I was able to conclude nothing at all. When a glitch ship is near, the latency is not out of range (100-500ms) and sync also remains in range (5-100ms.) Yet in gameplay, I experience lockups of 2 to 20 seconds regularly, still. The ping times in this context are nothing but a curiosity, as the server is where the cheats are happening. Note that for this type of ping-test, the first response is usually wrong (path discovery for UDP instead of TCP.)

Alt-F6 does not pause the game.

To Zepper

The ALT + F6 - key when held down pauses all movement and action on screen (this we know)

I had deducted from the name of the key that it was to re-sync your connection with the server (by freezing all actions on screen your allowing the backend to catch up) - and from using it and viewing my ping's each time I did this my ping actually lowered

so it was reasonable that his would be the right function of that key

-- However there are 2 types of Lag.. FPS Lag and Connection Lag

Perhaps the Resync is actually for Video Cards to Re-sync their snapshots with the frame snapshot being sent from the server itself (which would explain why all movement in your camera view stops)

NOT to re-sync the actual Connection from you to the server

if you hold the keys down it will remain paused until you release them

-- Also a note on the Graphics effects in game causing lag - this would be about right (but usually FPS Lag(graphics lag) is a combination of the connection and effects causing lag

the server sends out what are called snapshots at a set interval of milliseconds

pretend the server Snaps are set to 125 (remember this is miliseconds)
that means every 125ms the server sends a total snapshot of all data currently on your screen - where players are, where they were at 125ms ago, what weapons hit you, what weapon you used hit another person etc..
also remember your computer sends its own snapshots to the server as well

now with that being said -- you can understand Graphics Lag happens when on the next snapshot sent - your hit with alll kinds of effects, attack, etc.. this causes your GPU (Graphic Processing unit) to over work

and presto - you have FPS Lag (Frames per second drop)



To Edward --

if your ping stays an average even during lockups then it is most likely a drop in your Frames per second (your video processor cannot handle the snapshots being sent)

and pings are more then just the curiosity because what is happening at the time you view your ping will cause it to raise or lower - what ships are moving, attacking, etc.

if you check your ping when standing in the crowd at tortuga you will see it has raised a bit or a lot due to all the action - and you will also see a Frame rate drop because the amount of info being sent per snapshot is higher

(note your actual Connection Speed however DOES effect how much your ping raises and lowers in game with whats happening around you) - higher connection speed lower your ping is because your able to receive the data faster as long as your video card keeps up you experience no lag

And for this type of Ping Test -- Ping Testing uses ICMP - ICMP uses the IP protocol but ICMP is not TCP, or UDP

ICMP is designed for sending control and test messages across IP Networks (it is its own protocol)


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