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Noogah 09-10-2008 08:43 PM

PVP unlimited?
 
Don't you think that players should be allowed to attck other player without asking?

Swash 09-10-2008 08:53 PM

No a basic would be questing and i could just go up to him and CHING...CHING....CHING i had my fun.

Dr. Zeppers 09-10-2008 09:02 PM

I most definately do not think that players should be allowed to attack other players without asking.

The fact this is not forced on the player is part of why I like this game.

PvP is a realm I have no interest in, such pvp style games are rampant and all over, why ruin something a bit more unique?

CrimsonRabbit 09-10-2008 09:06 PM

I think just a single island where you go and all PvP is allowed...any level, any weapons (except your gun of course). But unrestricted PvP everywhere is a terrible idea, so many people would quit just because player killers won't leave them alone.

icemage 09-10-2008 09:41 PM

what if your AFK?

davy redflint 09-10-2008 09:42 PM

if u could attack anyone all the time u would never be able to quest or lvl up. dont like pvp anyway.

Mr.LoveLocket 09-10-2008 10:14 PM

this sounds mean poor basic :[ so no

mlratto 09-10-2008 10:14 PM

I think just a single island where you go and all PvP is allowed...any level, any weapons (except your gun of course).

Personally i think PvP is the most pointless thing in the game. However, that said, if there was an island like that i'm not sure i see the rational for not allowing pistols.

Swash 09-10-2008 10:23 PM

They should make an island if it were the whole game pvp questing would be impossible.

Noogah 09-12-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swash (Post 68150)
No a basic would be questing and i could just go up to him and CHING...CHING....CHING i had my fun.

Yeah, but what if you were only allowed to battle your same level?

davy redflint 09-12-2008 12:59 PM

still the same what if u didnt want to pvp.

Poison elf 09-12-2008 01:08 PM

Obviously ya haven't seen the pvp/svs here much in this game. With both loaded with so many cheats, glitches it would be a total lost to have this open all the time. I recall always watching your back while doing tasks, quests. Can't even imagine it here, with not seeing someone on radar, being attacked from underground and can't fight back type things.


If anything along these lines I would love to see, is if someone attacks your enemy you can attack them, now that would be great. Sorta like the soldiers and skellies fighting, you attack one they both attack you back. So if I am fighting something and someone else jumps in, he should be fair game to wack. This would end the leaching of coarse, and we would never see that happen.

MacIronhawk 09-12-2008 02:26 PM

I put only if they're the same level but...
If we had an island just for PvP like SvS then that would be nice.
I would like to see a place where we can just fight each other anytime we want. The SvS was a big update and got a lot of players but I think a regular PvP island would be good.

Edward Edgemenace 09-12-2008 03:34 PM

This poll says that votes can be viewed by others: how do I see (and harass) the very silly preson that voted yes?

The POTCO PvP is so glitch-oriented it isn't funny. Why do Tortuga/Abassa idiots do the skeleton glitch, still? Not for infinite ammo - they wouldn't be there. Not for leaderboard ranking - the total kills can only count up to one per day. So what's left? The sadistic pleasure of crashing other people's game.

That's the only reason to PvP glitch - to crash other people's game. The suggestion here is to expand that to all areas of the game. Brilliant.

Edward Edgemenace 09-12-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison elf (Post 68769)
Obviously ya haven't seen the pvp/svs here much in this game. With both loaded with so many cheats, glitches it would be a total lost to have this open all the time. I recall always watching your back while doing tasks, quests. Can't even imagine it here, with not seeing someone on radar, being attacked from underground and can't fight back type things.


If anything along these lines I would love to see, is if someone attacks your enemy you can attack them, now that would be great. Sorta like the soldiers and skellies fighting, you attack one they both attack you back. So if I am fighting something and someone else jumps in, he should be fair game to wack. This would end the leaching of coarse, and we would never see that happen.

I've had times where I've mob-attacked things to help someone out. How would I control my attacks, to not kill the n00b I was trying to help? I can't aim away from them - attacks like wither or sweep will hit them no matter where they are standing. Pistol will give red circle, even when they are standing to my side.

Seems as problematic as having a "I challenge thee to a duel" system - mandatory PvP were they can't say no. (Limit one challenge per day, or something.) Anything like this, will be abused so quickly, it isn't funny.

(Mods - please merge posts! One was poll response, the other a quoted response. )

Poison elf 09-12-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 68785)
I've had times where I've mob-attacked things to help someone out. How would I control my attacks, to not kill the n00b I was trying to help? I can't aim away from them - attacks like wither or sweep will hit them no matter where they are standing. Pistol will give red circle, even when they are standing to my side.

Seems as problematic as having a "I challenge thee to a duel" system - mandatory PvP were they can't say no. (Limit one challenge per day, or something.) Anything like this, will be abused so quickly, it isn't funny.

(Mods - please merge posts! One was poll response, the other a quoted response. )

I said if anything along the lines to this post. Really what is it going to prevent if you do hit a noob who is hunting critters he can not handle, maybe start to learn how to do something for themself? With linking accounts now, I could have a level 1 parked and take my 40 and go kill stuff all day, actually not being able to do something like that I would find as a plus.

Leon Mcflint 10-01-2008 10:50 PM

Yea.... NO!!! How do you know they werent questing? Think about how mad they can get..

AdmiralSavvy 10-03-2008 12:46 AM

No way. The last thing I would want are 10 newbs hacking missed combos at me when I'm trying to get ammo or whatever, although I'll always be able to kill them with one Flaming Skull though, heh heh.
It would also cause too much lag, and going to an ideal server to look for a crew or whatever would become a complete waste of time.

Dr. Zeppers 10-03-2008 12:52 AM

I have a feeling we may be up for a bit of this come Halloween.

However I dont think Savvy's scenario will come to play, as I believe that you are "safe" if inside (ie in ammo shop, tavern, etc).

Christopher Trueshot 10-18-2008 10:37 PM

i agree with Mlratto and swash there should be an island for pvp but not on every island.

The Skirata Clan 10-19-2008 01:30 AM

i yes, but only on those that deserve it. you know, like the rep/kill stealers.

Pirate Luke 10-19-2008 04:44 AM

Sorry, but that just sounds absurd.
A lvl. 40 just looking for some fun could just come up to a Lvl. 6 like and me and take me out in one blow.
Not trying to be rude but...
Are you crazy?

The Skirata Clan 10-19-2008 04:48 AM

only in special cases... i guess that my feelings on those interfering in my kills are very strong.

Poison elf 10-19-2008 07:02 PM

Well like I stated originally, it would not be a good thing watching over your back constantly. I have been there done that, even to the point everything you have is lost on the ground when you are killed for a opponent to choose and take.

As for sake of argument, those saying it would be terrible when they are supposedly helping others, I don't buy that. If they were helping I would consider them in a crew, and void of pvp?

There are just too many factors though I could see as problems. Take crew out of the picture and just wanting to try to heal, where is the conversion of pvp, versus using heal for doll etc.

Things like ships as you use cannon and take sails down and switch to working broadsides, I can feel the want for a little pay back. Watching your screen as a ship uses full sail, ramming speed, and by three other ships to race up and shoot that one you are fighting gets annoying.

It only takes figuring out a few things, and you get a heck of a lot more rep than trying to do this trying to jump what other players are working on. For instance the latest developments in the game making a galleon a way better choice then say a War Galleon. Using this hitting for more damage, less attacks, and better rep.

Stormhawk 10-19-2008 07:16 PM

I don't think pvp should be unlimited. I mean when you first start i bet there would be tons of people out there wacking down every new person that comes. Plus it would be hard to quest with anyone being able to kill you. Oh and if you go to a far out island and are killed by another person, it would be frustrating.:)

Chris 10-19-2008 07:19 PM

I say YES! however maybe to certain servers only but other than that YES! it would only be for 1 day and if you are standing around doing nothing i guess you are dead....

davy redflint 10-19-2008 07:25 PM

look at poll, noway would i want this. i can see someone afk being hack up lol. if u want to pvp go to the look out, that what it for.

Reaver 10-27-2008 06:43 PM

i think a pvp server would be nice but no doll attacks can be used on it only cure and heal I hate PvPing someone only to have em attune me and run in circles i see that as noting short of cheating

Dr. Zeppers 10-27-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaver (Post 86448)
i think a pvp server would be nice but no doll attacks can be used on it only cure and heal I hate PvPing someone only to have em attune me and run in circles i see that as noting short of cheating

Some want it, but "only to attack those stealing thier kills".
Some want it, but only if there are certain PvP rules implemented.

Ladies and Gentleman, I hate to alarm you, but this is NOT a PvP game!!!!

It has PvP options to satisfy those that like that type of gaming, but this game is not a PvP game. Point, Blank, and period.

It would simply ruin it beyond imagine.

If you want PvP all the time, there are 1000's of games at your disposal, lets not discusse ruining our pirate game that way.
Maybe a PvP island, that would be ok, but really, we already have one somewhat when you join PvP as it is. They just added SvS to the game providing more PvP environment. Hope they focus on more content for those of use that despise PvP. :)

Sarah 10-27-2008 08:43 PM

I cannot stand PvP, or SvS for that matter. But ya know what, if the big D comes out with unlimited pvp, it had better be on their own Island, like the svs. Fine with that, you all run off and hack away at each other, leaves more for me in the rest of the game.

Poison elf 10-27-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 86456)
Some want it, but "only to attack those stealing thier kills".
Some want it, but only if there are certain PvP rules implemented.

Ladies and Gentleman, I hate to alarm you, but this is NOT a PvP game!!!!

It has PvP options to satisfy those that like that type of gaming, but this game is not a PvP game. Point, Blank, and period.

It would simply ruin it beyond imagine.

If you want PvP all the time, there are 1000's of games at your disposal, lets not discusse ruining our pirate game that way.
Maybe a PvP island, that would be ok, but really, we already have one somewhat when you join PvP as it is. They just added SvS to the game providing more PvP environment. Hope they focus on more content for those of use that despise PvP. :)

I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with you here, specially that this is not a pvp game.

I think one thing has been a result of us loosing cannon damage and that is svs pvp. I just went through some more testing, and see basically EVERYTHING in pvp has been reduced in damage by half on test. This I believe due to upcoming Halloween event.

As I myself would like to see more content and such things, my biggest arguments on this continued downgrades is only for one thing, PVP.

As some of these things stand right now, we are heading to a notoriety upgrade, that would mean what? It would mean getting to level 50 with incremental upgrades in damage to bring us right back to where we were before a bunch of downgrades.

Then what more downgrades for pvp?

I think this entire game has gone only to the balance of pvp and basic characters versus unlimited, or we would be going forward, not backwards in these things.


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