Does anyone know the points requirements for each lvl on a weapon
 

Hey all,
I found the entry on the wiki that lists the points requirements for notoriety, but can't find any listing of points needed for each weapons level. Does anyone know or have this data?


Thanks in advance for any help!

Basil

There's got to be a list somewhere around here...lemme check the sock drawer....brb ;)

Edit: Well, perhaps not...searched everywhere, couldn't find one...anyone?

50, 150, 300, 500, 700,
900, 1100, 1300, 1500, 1700,
1900, 2100, 2300, 2500, 2700,
2900, 3200, 3500, 3800, 4100,
4400, 4700, 5000, 5300

Edit: These are from my level-up folder of screenshots.

I got myself mixed up. When your weapon is level 24, you can level up (5,300 points) but once it is mastered, it is mastered. So, there ya go. Found the last three, unambiguously.

Ah, thanks Edward, good start! Where did you find it, I really turned the sock drawer upsidedown ;)

Thank-you
 

Thanks a ton Edward. I've mastered 2 pirates, and 12 weapons/skills, and never bothered to try to figure out the points requirements!

Really never cared! But now I want to play with some numbers!

Thanks a ton!

Basil

50, 150, 300, 500, 700,
900, 1100, 1300, 1500, 1700,
1900, 2100, 2300, 2500, 2700,
2900, 3200, 3500, 3800, 4100,
4400, 4700, 5000, 5300
Yep Edward is right

Basil, math...pfft. Sorry, bit of a guild ribbing going on there....

Thanks again Edward!

Sarah can"t add
 

Love,

I'm sorry I had to announce that in public, but the truth be told, your math is only exceed in terribleness by your bad long distance cannon shot!

(You started this!)

Thank you for the verification, Alex. It is good to have someone double-check the numbers I found. (I'm glad no one made me explain why level one is really level two. Not sure I even can - it is POTCO math.) 56,600 total points for each weapon, right?

I completely resemble that remark! again...pfft:piratetongueor4:

Has somebody put this on the wiki yet? (The numbers, not the flaming.) http://www.disneyonlineworlds.com/in...otoriety#Chart Guess not yet.

More MATH
 

Yeah Edward,
56,600 per weapon. Counting Sail and Cannon, that's 8, times the total = 452, 800. Adding all the notoriety levels gets you 540,150. Subtracting the weapons from the notoriety, leaves 89,350.

Now for the mathematically challenged, (you know who you are) what this all means:

If you earned nothing but rep for the skills, it would leave you 89,350 short of level 40. It isn;t possible to master the weapons without earning dome gratis rep, but if you could, it would bring you to high level 37 Notoriety. Throwing in the rep you earn from visiting the NPC's just to get the weapons quests, and complete them, you reach low level 39 notoriety.

Throw in rep for the Jewelry, tattoo, and clothing quests, and the Skeleton infestation, and other small quests, you can reach level 40 notoriety without earning a single point from the Pearl quest!


It would be an intersting experiment! My littlest pirate, Lars, is now level 11, and has not visited Gibbs for the first time yet. The Pearl quest doesn't even show up in his journal. The problem here is that other quests make you visit Gibbs, and it will automatically assign the pearl quest, but I think I'm gonna try to get to level 40 Notoriety without ever recruiting even the first Pearl crew member!

It would be interesting to see if it can be done. Probably other snags you'll hit besides Joshamee...hard to guess at, though. Teleportation quests give rep, too, right?

My OFxZeppers pirate has done some of the Black Pearl Quest.
Just finished Gunner, and im already pushing level 38.
I didnt do any of the pearl quest until like level 35

Definately easier to do the quests... WAY... hehe

With Prob Lematic, I didn;t do any Pearl at all until level 32, then bounced between Pearl and Skills until I mastered. Hit level 40, not done with Gunner yet. That;s what made me want to find out if you could Master without doing ANY Pearl quest at all.
I think it can be done. Gonna give it a try with either Lars or Purvis! Will update this thread periodically just to let people know of progress.

Stumbled across this today: http://www.freewebs.com/longshotxx/p...rintables2.htm

Pretty funny to see the old "recommendations" elsewhere, there. You don't notice the minor changes much, but over time they really sway the game. A pirate with those skill point allocations today, would be...let's see...

deleted and started over. :-)

Edward, those are just information/tiers per levels which I believe are accurate.

There was no proposed skill point allocations on the referenced page.


Nifty reference though. :)

Will try to get the skill/weapon points tiers into the wiki soon, but have several projects there, and not that much time lately.

You could cheat, ya know. Just start a privateering quest, get the first 100 notoriety points, then drop the quest. Then start the quest again...

Ouch. Printables 2 used to be different from Printables 1. I guess my critique was too harsh, or taken too harshly. I was just trying to point out how things change over time, especially when the underlying game itself (especially sailing) changes.

Looks like there are a few more new pages there. I'll have to peruse it a bit more. Handy reference indeed!

Whoah! Never realized it was 56,000 wow im shocked!

Very interesting. Thanks for doing all that math Basil. :psmiley35: I was wondering if it was mathematically possible to master all the weapons but not reach pirate master. Evidently it is. LOL

ok basil, my first pirate davy II to reach lvl 40 w/ this: story quest 99% comp. since the bb was out of commission at that time. all weapons lvl 25 except gnades they were 18 plus. at that time there were no weapons, clothing or infestation or svs quest. w/o the story quest u would not have reach lvl40 i believe back then. now it a lot easier to hit 40 and earn those 0 reps lol.

Update to levelling without doing Pearl quest
 

Notoriety 27, Cannon 12, Sailing 17, Cutlass 13, Pistol 13, Doll 14, Dagger 13, Nades 24.
Quests:
Tattoo and Jewelry done on Tortuga and PR. Skeleton Infestation 43%. No other quests in progress yet.

Pearl Quest at 1%, The list is 3%, and Pidgeley is at 40%, the step for stealing the list of ships. It was a convienent place to hold the Pearl quest. I never have to go get the list because of other quest objectives.

Will keep udating to let everyone know if Level 40 can be achieved without doing Pearl quest.

Another update to leveling without doing Pearl quest
 

Haven't been as active as I would like, so it has been slow going, but still at it!

Notoriety 34, Cannon 17, Sailing 21, Cutlass 18, Pistol 18, Doll 18, Dagger 18, Staff 23, Nades 24.
Quests:
Tattoo and Jewelry done on Tortuga, PR and PDF. Teleportation quests done. Skeleton Infestation done. All level 4 weapons quests done. No level 5 weapons quests started. No clothing quests started.

Pearl Quest at 1%, The list is 3%, and Pidgeley is at 40%, the step for stealing the list of ships. It was a convienent place to hold the Pearl quest. I never have to go get the list because of other quest objectives.

Now for some math:
Adding up all the points needed to get to Notoriety level 40, I still need 211,100.
Adding up all the points that can be earned by doing nothing but weapons leveling, I can get 192,200.
I think it is going to be awful close. Does anyone know how much gratis rep is given during the clothing and level 5 weapons quests?

Will keep udating to let everyone know if Level 40 can be achieved without doing Pearl quest.

Here's a link to what Anne got on clothing quest, even with the fuzzy math, it's a ton of rep ;)

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...2&postcount=31

It can be done!!!
 

Ok, I haven't done it yet, but it CAN be done.

Right now:

Purvis is at level 39, and needs 33,500 rep to hit level 40.
He is Mastered in Sailing, Nades and Staff, so no rep left there.
Cutlass, Pistol, Doll and Dagger are all level 24, and each has about 4,500 rep left, and Cannon is at level 21. This leaves about 35,400 rep to be earned finishing his weapon skills.
ALL rep earning quests are done, except SvS quests, which aren't started.
SvS quests won't be needed.

Pearl Quest at 1%, The "list" is 3%, and Pidgeley is at 40%, (the step for stealing the list of ships.) It was a convienent place to hold the Pearl quest. I never have to go get the list because of other quest objectives.


Based on the above info, it is possible to Master your pirate to level 40, Master all weapons, and never do any of the Pearl quest!

I should be able to accomplish this within the next few weeks, depending on how much time I have to be ingame. When it is done, I will post screenies to show the results.

Wow, you can't master all weapons without hitting 40 on notoriety? Dang. Well, great work Basil! Can't wait for the 40 party!

Edward,
If all you do is weapons, then NO, you can't hit level 40. The point I am trying to make is that you CAN get your pirate to level 40 WITHOUT doing any of the Pearl quest! That is the goal that I set out to accomplish.
But, you can't do it with weapons and skills alone, You must do the side quests.

Unless you get a lot of treasure drops on the way, I don't think you can get to 40 even with the side quests. Piper has only the SvS quests left (and is on the final part of one), and still needs about 5k rep to reach 40.

ETA: So...yeah. D needs to release some more stuff. I refuse to do the Pearl, but I want her to hit 40... LoL

Interesting. When I tried to measure it, I saw 10% of enemies defeated gave a treasure; 5% gave a cheat card. So if you attack the lowest possible level enemy at all times, you'd then have a greater chance of getting the 25 extra notoriety points 10% of the time, bringing you much closer, indeed.

Okies, Piper's done.

Where are you at now, Basil?

Can't Piper just set up camp in Governor's Garden, popping off low level enemies for +25, until she hits 40? Doesn't the Tortuga jeweler have a quest you can drop part way through and start over, for faster rep?

Sorry Piper,

I think I'm going to make it. I still need 10K in rep to hit 40, but I have about 13K left in weapons. Doll almost mastered, about .5K left. Pistol, Cutlass, and Dagger each have about 1K left. Cannons are only at level 22, so 10K left there. That comes to 13.5 K. Give or take a few hundred.

I was gonna try to do a lot this past weekend, but snow storms and sick family kept me from getting as much done as I had wanted.

I guess I could, but since I have other things I could do on the other pirates for real rep, I'm probably just going to wait for them to release the next round of pointless weapon quests. LoL

Oh, and I've finished all the side quests, so no luck there.



Wow, I wonder why I ended up with a lot less rep? Hm...

And when it comes to lousy weather, I feel your pain. We're in a blizzard right now... I want to go back to CA! :tongue8:

I don't know Piper. Mary has done the exact same quests that I have, is slightly further along on the Pearl quest, (Just a little, since I have only done the absolute minimum.) and she fully mastered all weapons and skills, and barely got into level 39. When I first started this, I calculated that ALL weapons and skills should get you to high 38/ Low 39 level, and that the side quests MIGHT push you to 40. That has been my goal since Purvis was level 5, to hit 40 without doing the Pearl quest. But I had already visited Gibbs the first time, so I had to find a good place to stop, where I wouldn't be "forced" into doing any more of it.

As I stated below, Purv is 1% done with Pearl, 3% done with "The List", first task on first pirate, Pidgeley. I may have picked up a couple hundred rep from the Pearl quest before I found a good hold point, but no more than a few hundred.

And, I have done NONE of the SvS quests. All other side quests are done.

Maybe the game is biased against the girl pirates!!!!!
ROFL.

True Basil, but Mary is only lev 22 sailing and 21 on cannon, and you KNOW I'm not mastering grenades (lev 24...9 points in...works for me) So I could master her without any more of the Pearl with just sailing and cannon, have about 16k to go, but i'd rather at this point get her set up for the BB. Maybe I'll build Ms Killigrew without the pearl...we'll see. ;)

On DisneyXD, you can check how many enemies these two pirates have defeated, right? Take that number times 2.5 (you get +25 on 10% of enemies) and it should account for the difference, right?

Well, Piper's listed at 12,859... Can that be right?

ETA: Regardless, it looks like Purv's over 18k. So, yeah...that treasure must really add up.

Mission accomplished
 

Purvis made level 40 with a minimum of completion of the Pearl quest. Almost none!

This shot is the glow!


This shows what his weapons levels were when it happened. Cannon and Sailing are both Mastered, along with Doll, Staff, and Nades. Cutlass, Pistol, and Dagger are all high level 24.


This shows where he is on the Pearl quest. Right where I stopped when he was level 5 and I decided to try for Level 40 without doing the Pearl quest.


So, it can be done!

EDIT: As an Oh By the Way: Purv accomplished it with exactly 100 unspent skill points. By keeping his skills low, he earned 433 rep on that last defeating of Tim using Pistol, Dagger and Cutlass.

Whoohooo! Well done! Pass me a cigar, matey! A touch of rum to, eh?

So, you need any help on that quest, now? :-)

Grats again Basil...you and all yer treasure. :1poke::biggrin8: