Pirates of the Caribbean Online Fansite & Forums

Pirates of the Caribbean Online Fansite & Forums (https://www.piratesonlineforums.com/forums/index.php)
-   Dead Polly (https://www.piratesonlineforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37)
-   -   Worst weapon? (https://www.piratesonlineforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7442)

MacIronhawk 08-26-2008 12:24 AM

Worst weapon?
 
In your opinion what's the worst weapon?

Dr. Zeppers 08-26-2008 03:41 AM

Grenades, but NOT because they take too long to level up.

More because thier usefulness is minimal.

Aragorn6418 08-26-2008 04:58 AM

I have to agree on that and I'm not even an unlimited acess. But they just seem pointless. Seriously, how many pirates do you see every day throwing a grenade? It's imo, for ships so you can take them out easily.

Dr. Zeppers 08-26-2008 05:17 AM

Even the poll agrees, it says 100% for grenades even with Dagger getting a vote. ;)

icemage 08-26-2008 01:00 PM

I also agree with u guys. IMO Grenade is harder to aim and gives very little rep.

Captain Del 08-26-2008 01:14 PM

The grenade really is useless after the group of veterans becomes gray, which then makes it VERY hard to level them up.

davy redflint 08-26-2008 01:18 PM

g-nades just not much use,

MacIronhawk 08-26-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn6418 (Post 64527)
I have to agree on that and I'm not even an unlimited acess. But they just seem pointless. Seriously, how many pirates do you see every day throwing a grenade? It's imo, for ships so you can take them out easily.

Cannons are one of my favorite weapons as far as I can say.
But I can never level them up because i can't find a captain who wont sink my ship or a captain. It takes a while for me to level my cannon up.
I still don't have fury and i'm almost level 37.

Edward Edgemenace 08-26-2008 04:50 PM

Grenades because they are useless. You can only "use" them to level up grenades.

mlratto 08-26-2008 05:18 PM

grenades will be the one reason Sven never has a fully mastered pirate sadly to say.

combatlizzy 08-27-2008 03:44 PM

I am not fond of nades either...my level is prolly around a minus 1...just kiddin...but the only thing I have ever destroyed with one was a croc...and that was an accident...lol

Aliese 08-27-2008 04:36 PM

Nades are the worst. No contest.

As I've said before, they are the most horribly unbalanced weapon ever. Even though the doll is relatively easy to level compared to the rest, and the dagger slightly harder, IMO, they're not too far off.

Grenades, meanwhile, are a galaxy away. They're hard to use, you can't hold anywhere near enough of them, and as others have said, the only halfway decent spot to level them (without glitching) doesn't get you far.


Quote:

Grenades because they are useless. You can only "use" them to level up grenades.
So true.

wronkowski 08-28-2008 12:37 PM

okay grenades aint that hard to lvl up i got 1 to 11 in like 2 days. Once your lvl 30 grenades are useless because of vodoo staff

MacIronhawk 08-28-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wronkowski (Post 65046)
okay grenades aint that hard to lvl up i got 1 to 11 in like 2 days. Once your lvl 30 grenades are useless because of vodoo staff

When you get to level 12 that stops happening.
Sorry I can't believe that either from going to 1-11 in 2 days.
Yes if your on 24/7 but sorry that seems unlikely.
I think nades are horrible.
They take too long to level up.
One of my friends was very lucky when nade rep was good. He mastered it fast.

Kingshead is worthless for me now. If I use the nades on the navy(group of) then i get about 19 rep.
I can get 20 rep from other enemies one at a time which goes by faster. Now if there was a bigger group of nav, say high levels, then I would do that.

Joseph 08-28-2008 02:44 PM

Grenades by far

the khan 08-28-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 65072)
When you get to level 12 that stops happening.
Sorry I can't believe that either from going to 1-11 in 2 days.
Yes if your on 24/7 but sorry that seems unlikely.
I think nades are horrible.
They take too long to level up.
One of my friends was very lucky when nade rep was good. He mastered it fast.

Kingshead is worthless for me now. If I use the nades on the navy(group of) then i get about 19 rep.
I can get 20 rep from other enemies one at a time which goes by faster. Now if there was a bigger group of nav, say high levels, then I would do that.

It pretty easy to get to level 11 in 2 days without intensive work. I would guess it took me about 4 hours to get there, and since I hadn't worked my pearl quest I didn't have rep problems until lvl 14 or 15.

Scottish 08-28-2008 08:19 PM

Grenades are the worst weapon by far. It would be better if you could just brawl with the enemy. Then you could have like "fist of fury" or "lightning punch" or "combo punch" as different things you could use.

Grenades are useless. Wouldn't bother me at all if they done away with them.

Just my opinion, you can take it for what it's worth!

John Witherspoon 08-30-2008 03:42 PM

Grenades are horrible mine are level nine... LOL nobody voted the staff

greatertater 09-02-2008 06:11 PM

I put cannons rt up there with the nades
 
I dont care for either but at least with the grenades you arent so dependent on others to level. To level the cannon you either have to glitch and park and shoot - park and shoot etc. or spend a LOT of time on somebody elses boat who is more interested in getting the perfect shot from broadsides than you taking out the enemy with fury because your there on board actually stealing their rep.

Captain NightWolf 09-03-2008 07:12 PM

Like everyone else seems to agree on, grenades are probably the worst of the lot in regards to weapons...once you pass a certain point on KH everyone for the most part becomes grey and rep points are abyssmal...

But if you look at the bigger picture grenades can still be somewhat useful...the stinkpot by far is the best IMO simply because you can attract quite the many enemies as we've all seen on KH...

Also once you hit that grey rep plateau get a bunch of friends together one two ships and have one board the Colossus Flagship while the other ship is on the opposite side of the Colossus with the crew happily grenading the Navy Officers...

I would still try to keep leveling the grenade simply because the skill points earned can be used in the passive skills to a much greater advantage...so if you see any enemies hit 'em with a grenade, then switch weapons if you'd like...sure you'll level up a bit more slowly but every rep point adds up in the end...

NW

wronkowski 09-05-2008 09:14 PM

yea kingshead is only good with some other people using any weapon or 1 or 2 other grenaders

Edward Edgemenace 09-06-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatertater (Post 66003)
I dont care for either but at least with the grenades you arent so dependent on others to level. To level the cannon you either have to glitch and park and shoot - park and shoot etc. or spend a LOT of time on somebody elses boat who is more interested in getting the perfect shot from broadsides than you taking out the enemy with fury because your there on board actually stealing their rep.

When YOU incessantly rely on glitches, you affect the game for other people. Very detrimentally.

ROTFL. You glitch when trying to level up cannons? You silly pirate! You've no right to complain that you have to chase them! You break the game, then complain that it is broken? Why would you even think of that glitch as being helpful? Your glitch makes sailing be both time-consuming and unpleasant, but it makes cannons intolerable.

Are you one of those twits that can't aim at all, yet says that light sloops are hard to hit (they weren't before - and are very hard to miss now!)

You should be made to walk the plank!

Hypothetacles 09-12-2008 06:01 PM

"Nades" are VERY useful...
 
It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.


Good luck and happy "nading."

Edward Edgemenace 09-12-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypothetacles (Post 68808)
It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.


Good luck and happy "nading."

Sorry, but I must disagree. When I fully mastered my pirate, I had to master 'nades - yes I maxed out most of the 'nade passives. The passives are a good thing about grenades, but that does not offset their numerous unpleasant qualities.

Dr. Zeppers 09-12-2008 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypothetacles (Post 68808)
It occurs to me that everyone here is missing the point about "Nades." All of you are looking at them as an offensive weapon instead of a passive healer.

The point being that at level 6 you get the "Determination" unlock. Toss saved skill points here and watch your heal speed increase ALL THE TIME.

Try looking beyond the instant gratification of objects and try to find their long term passive effects, you will get to level 40 much faster that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 68826)
Sorry, but I must disagree. When I fully mastered my pirate, I had to master 'nades - yes I maxed out most of the 'nade passives. The passives are a good thing about grenades, but that does not offset their numerous unpleasant qualities.

The passive skills that come with nades are helpful. However if we are to take passive skills of each weapon into account as well in determining the "worst weapon", passives being the grenades only saving grace, would still not be enough.

So with that being said, I must agree with Edward.

As a weapon, taking passives into consideration, grenades are still the most useless (ie worst).
They 'could' be much more useful if scenarios where they were required were written into the game, but they are not.

JadeMcHawk 09-12-2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 64551)
Cannons are one of my favorite weapons as far as I can say.
But I can never level them up because i can't find a captain who wont sink my ship or a captain. It takes a while for me to level my cannon up.
I still don't have fury and i'm almost level 37.

Please don't feel you are alone. With an awesome guild member that handles a ship like a pro, I was lvl 38 before I got fury.

Poison elf 09-12-2008 08:39 PM

Who says grenades has no use, ha. They have one of my most favorite uses of all weapons.

Scenario: Kings with your 20 level character using grenades on the soldiers, a level 30 comes in with staff, and thinks he owns the place. Level 40 comes in and kills everything with one hit siege bomb. level 30 gets mad and leaves. Now I feel good I didn't chicken out and run from a rude player in the game to another server, drive a boat across the sea, and find someone already there on this server. I love watching everything on the screen drop dead from one siege bomb.

As for cannon, almost all the characters I had it max first. Glitching works against you with cannon. Soon as you can get it to level 12, put immediately 5 points in lightning, that point on there is no ship on the sea safe from loosing its sails and easy prey.

akamystic 09-13-2008 11:20 PM



I'd have to say grenades. I just can't find much to use them for.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

:12_1_138:

Dr. Zeppers 09-13-2008 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison elf (Post 68846)
Who says grenades has no use, ha. They have one of my most favorite uses of all weapons.

Scenario: Kings with your 20 level character using grenades on the soldiers, a level 30 comes in with staff, and thinks he owns the place. Level 40 comes in and kills everything with one hit siege bomb. level 30 gets mad and leaves. Now I feel good I didn't chicken out and run from a rude player in the game to another server, drive a boat across the sea, and find someone already there on this server. I love watching everything on the screen drop dead from one siege bomb.

Ok, perhaps, but no valid use in the game as its designed. Its still pretty useless.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison elf (Post 68846)
As for cannon, almost all the characters I had it max first. Glitching works against you with cannon. Soon as you can get it to level 12, put immediately 5 points in lightning, that point on there is no ship on the sea safe from loosing its sails and easy prey.

I would never put 5 points in lightning, seems like a waste. I have 3 now, and sink ships with a couple shots. I am a notorious cannoneer in BB's often being the sole super power on cannons.. hehe. Too each his own.

Putting the extra points in passives where they help lightning, and other skills instead of focusing on one I dont need any stronger. ;)

Cannons is usually the LAST thing I master, because all my friends want me sailing most of the time.

MacIronhawk 09-13-2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 69258)

Cannons is usually the LAST thing I master, because all my friends want me sailing most of the time.

I hear you there.
Although because my grenades are so low level I think I have no choice but to have them be my very last weapon I master.

As for grenades being useless.
The only way I think they can't be useless is when your almsot dead and you need something to kill an enemy fast.

Although life drain really helps too.

WilliamMcSilver 09-14-2008 01:26 AM

c'mon its cutlass its worthless against any thing even four levels above you!!!

MacIronhawk 09-14-2008 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamMcSilver (Post 69285)
c'mon its cutlass its worthless against any thing even four levels above you!!!

I've mastered my cutlass and have fought a level 40 Urchinfists and barely lost half my health.
I'll have to disagree with you on the cutlass.

WilliamMcSilver 09-14-2008 09:17 AM

yes well thats because you have alot more time then I do.

WilliamMcSilver 09-14-2008 09:17 AM

it would take me about 48 hours just to master it and i am lvl 23 no way im beating a urchin Fist.

Dr. Zeppers 09-14-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 69268)
Although life drain really helps too.

On the flipside, "Life Drain" to me is the absolute bomb diggity best weapon skill of all the weapons. Makes nearly any critter a tonic bottle. hehe

Deepskirt 09-22-2008 07:22 PM

I hated grenades while working on my first Pirate Master, but for some reason, after she mastered nades it felt much easier for my other pirates .

I am currentlly working on three same-level pirates together, and in one day I got two of them to level 13 and one of them to fifteen, all at King's Head. When they achieved smoke bomb, with a crew of three, they were getting 120 rep per soldier. I think it took about ten minutes per level. On one of my pirates, nades is the highest level weapon she has now.

JUST DON'T USE ANY POINTS TO INCREASE THE STRENGTH OF EACH NADE OR YOUR REP WILL DROP.



And I found it easier to level if I start working on getting them level as soon as I get them, as I put off doing that on my first pirate.

Jade_Seawalker 09-25-2008 11:13 PM

Even unlocking the grenade is horrible. I think the dagger is pretty useless as well.

beard shocker 09-27-2008 02:19 AM

cutlass:pirate6:

Stormhawk 09-27-2008 04:40 AM

This is a hard one. I have mastered every weapon and they all seem so good. I would have to say the worst is grenades, even though siege charge is awesome!:)

Andrew 09-27-2008 06:40 AM

Grenades because they also blow you up as well

magnum1990 10-01-2008 06:11 AM

I don't like the pistol only because it is the only weapon not allowed to be used on Navy or Eitc peeps. The nades are not fun either, but I can do a lot of damage with them, more than the pistol.

Reaver 10-01-2008 12:33 PM

Dagger just seems pointless you have a sword why use a dagger

dangerousden 10-01-2008 06:17 PM

I am now level 40 with only lvl 17 nades. I spent most of the double rep weekend on Tormenta trying to get them higher. Even with double rep I only went up one level. Totally useless weapons.

james daggerfury 10-01-2008 08:42 PM

nades i dont liek them at all
need to just get rid of them
then i would get my lvl 40 easy

Leon Mcflint 10-01-2008 10:30 PM

eh, nades. just my opinoin

XxJennaxX 10-02-2008 12:04 AM

That grenade! It takes forever to work on! Aaaand...it doesn't help that it hurts your pirate. -_-

AdmiralSavvy 10-03-2008 12:56 AM

I have to say grenades because all of the other long range weapons can be used without as much effort into aiming and last time I checked, you can't hurt yourself using a pistol, dagger, or staff.

Dr. Zeppers 10-03-2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralSavvy (Post 77072)
I have to say grenades because all of the other long range weapons can be used without as much effort into aiming and last time I checked, you can't hurt yourself using a pistol and staff.


I agree.

The only advantage I think the grenades has is range. You can throw them farther than you can shoot, etc.. (although flaming skull has a bit O range too)

Marc BadBurn 10-04-2008 04:19 PM

I'm not to fond of grenades, but I personally don't like the dagger. Like the saying goes: "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"! I would have to say that bringing a cutlass would do you much better (Now THAT'S a knife!).


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.