What ship is better to have war galleon or war frigate ?
 

In my opinion war frigate is better because you can have more players in your crew and it's very hard to defeat the war frigate and it holds tons of gold.:12_1_138:

The answer of this question will be varying opinions from others, as individual style/preference will end up making the final determination for any pirate.

Wether your preference is SvS or NPC plundering could make a difference.

I personally prefer the War Galleon. The only advantages I see of the War Frigate is it can hold more crew/guildmates, and it has front guns (which do me no good while sailing). I am more a plunder of NPC ships, than into SvS so I dont frequent the SvS shipping lanes. I havent found a ship in the ocean yet that I cant sink with my War Galleon, and every trip is worth a little more (it holds more).

i prefer the gallions because you can hold more cargo while plundering :dancetl6:

I would get the war frigate first then the war galleon.
The ar galleon is good for cargo but the war frigate is great when working on quest.
The war frigate is great for raming ships too.
If you wan a lot of money to hold get the war galleon.
But I think the war frigate would be better to get first.

War galleon is better if your sailing alone
War frigate is better if you have a big crew

After taking out my new War Galleon, I prefer it's speed and back cannons that can reach past the front of the ship. I never thought I would like the War Galleon over the War Frigate, but I do.

I've now decided I think the War Frigate is the best ship to have.
Why?
a) It's far faster than the War Galleon- If you don't believe me, I'll race you.
b) It's stronger.
c) It's great for if you have large crews.
d) It's also great if you're sailing alone, as I do frequently, due to the many cannons there are, & so close to the steering wheel, I sunk the Behomoth single handedly in a War Frigate.
e) The front cannons are great.
f) The broadsides are more powerful.
g) More manoeuvrable
Not to mention the fact that (other than the light sloop) it owns the SvS field. =]

I used to like the War Galleon best, but really, after getting a war frigate, I've found the only benefit it has to having a frigate is the amount of plunder you can have.


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It all depends on what yer planning on doing with her, mate!

If it's SvS or a big crew sail, use the Frigate.
If it's for collecting a bunch of treasure or you're single-handing, use the Galleon.

Is this using the "raw" ship or when you are using modifiers like Full Sail and Ramming speed?

If i am reading the specs right, the War Galleon has more sail ability = faster, right?

simple both and a light sloop

Nope, this is raw sailing. No skills used.
The frigate beats the galleon hands down, regardless of the passive skills.
Even if you use as you put it, modifier skills, the frigate still beats the galleon.

The sail points that are present in the specs., in my opinion, relate to the amount of sails that a ship has, that can be shot down via cannon fire, not to the speed of the ship, otherwise the Galleon would be the fastest ship out there, not the slowest, as it is right now.

I think it's a common mistake, many people believe that the galleon is faster purely because of it's specs. (the sail points) which I think, have been misunderstood.

That's the way to do it =] I did that ;)

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I like my War Galleon better.
It's by far stronger, holds more plunder, and why do you need 12 on your ship at a time?
I sail solo, even in PvP, it's not hard with high sailing and high cannons.
23 sailing 23 cannons all day!

Right before my unlimited expired, I timed all the ships from port royal to devil's anvil. Sloops were seven seconds faster than frigates, which were seven seconds faster than galleons. War class was only one second faster than regular class; regular was only one second faster than light class.

That said, the war sloop is by far, the most unpleasant ship to drive. The war galleon is by far the most enjoyable. Max gold just kindof magically happens, once you have the war galleon. Unfortunately, with the changes they made to add SvS, driving a war galleon in SvS is best described as "wearing a kick-me sign." So keep a light sloop handy.

Thank you for the explanations :)

I just got my first War Galleon just a couple of weeks ago. I tend to be either alone, or sailing with my wife, so it took a while to get to 40,000 gold : )

However I'm already half way to having the gold for a War Frigate simply because of the amount of cargo I can nail using the War Galleon! wow!

I think I'll buy the War Frigate when I get up there and keep both. I'll have a better opinon once I use the War Frigate.

Depends, War frigates are good for a person who likes big crews because of all the canons it has on it, but war galleons are good for a person who likes to sail alone because of its strong armor and more broadsides. War sloops are my favorite because they are so fast, small, an manuverable that I can escape enemy fire easily.

They are both good but the war frigate is a bit better
 

The war galleon is better for money and cargo. The war frigate is better for killing bigger ships. The war galleon is easier to hit because it is larger. What I like about the war frigate tha you don't have in a war galleon is the cannons in the front so if you have a crew they can shoot at the ship infront of them, and what ship you are going for.:piratewheelgo2:

I prefer War Frigate for: Helping people with quests, SvS (Privateer), helping people lvl up, and ranking on the leaderboards. :)

War Galleon for: Plundering, helping people plunder. (lol)

Whnever I do crew searching its always galleon..

I don't care what anyone says, I prefer my war sloop over all of em.

The War Galleon IMO in the long run does better than the War Frigate.

The firepower/broadside differences between these too are not that major. Don't make a difference in the long run.

The amount of cargo can however make a difference when having to keep re-launching.

Also a War Galleon is better for questing, as you can pick up MORE of your quest items before having to port. Pirates go sailing, not short fishing trips (those are for fishermen!)


IMO the only reasons for a War Frigate often gets voted on is to help out those that have problems with sailing and need the extra firepower/strength to survive.
That and to accomodate large crews... I dont see any other real advantages to a salty sailor.


Edit: War Frigate is probably better for SvS simply for the crew/armament/hull factors a little can go a long way in SvS.

i use WF for sailing only bc hull is better/ but i love WG

The only significant difference between them in SvS is the "hit box" - the area you have to aim at to hit. For a war galleon, since it is much larger than any barn, you simply have to fire a cannon in any direction, to hit it. In SvS, that is a liability. :-)

Im saving up for a ship. I read this, and im getting the war frigate!

Lol

If the reason isnt because your a SvS fan, then the only reason anyone would want a War Frigate is because its strength/firepower (which a good sailor doesnt require outside of SvS). Everyone REALLY wants the more hull/firepower and uses other reasons that dont really hold up against the other choices as a means of justifying thier decision. The cargo a War Galleon carries in my opinion is by far a better advantage. The difference between 400-500 gold and 800-900 gold hauls. I own both, and drive the War Galleon. Matter of fact, on one pirate I have 2 War Galleons, and 1 War Frigate.

"Captain, our War Frigate is full we need to head to port! Too bad too, theres a Death Omen on the horizon."

"Nay crewpirate, weve got a War Galleon now, and have some extra cargo space fer what that Death Omen may be a haulin fer Jolly Roger lets go sink her and find out.. .arrrrr"


To each his own though. Plunder ends up being the primary use of a ship (other than SvS) and your shorting yourself a few hundred gold a trip easily with a War Frigate.

It depends what youre sailing for..
If youre sailing for rep, and to destroy war ships, its the war Frigate
if youre sailing for $$ and cargo, its the war galleon

I can think of at least one exception to this, me. I prefer the Frigate over the galleon because the frigate is faster and more maneuverable. Just as I prefer a sloop over both the frigate and the galleon for the same reasons. If I see my prey off in the distance I will catch it in a sloop, I'll probably catch it in a frigate, maybe I'll tag it with some lightening and get it to come to me in a galleon but catch it in a galleon? Only if it's coming my way anyway .

Of course you know according to the strict rules of Murphy's law you will not see that Death Omen until your hull is full regardless of your cargo capacity. :)


Fun and adventure is the primary use of a ship, gold is just a way of keeping score. Okay, transportation goes in there somewhere too.

Aww common now - your slapping down my favorite boat! :D Me and the Executioner have been sailing a long time... adn my only reason for sailing it - is it looks cool :D

Now, now... that can happen on a WG just as easily as a WF... ;)

Ok Max, but understand that in the process of folks "selling the War Frigate" they put down my favorite the War Galleon all the time. Turn about is fair play. "Looks" is going to be an entirely subjective opinion (sorry think the frigates look ugly!!!).


I guess I dont need "faster" or more "maneuverable". Ive always mastered sailing before I master any other skill on my first 4 pirates, always with Galleon class. Ive seen tests of ship times that will give the "light sloop" the only real significant difference in ship speed. I have no problems with speed in my War Galleon. There is seldom any NPC ship (of any class) that can outrun me. Only twice have I had some aggravated insane Reaper move too fast, and it was always in circles and never affected me anyhow.. hehe.

I think it comes down to the Captains preference.
When I go sinking ships, I dont run back and forth everytime im full, I achieve my goal first, be it a quest, or leveling cannons, etc. Since that timer was removed, I no longer get sunk from that, used to all the time. Never had a problem with manuevering, speed, or empty pockets. Had to move gold around just to participate in the double gold event, because most my big pirates pockets are full.
I stay out until im done sinking ships, the more my ship held before getting full the better.

I abore SvS because you have to be a glitch master, or anti-glitch master for any kind of a "fair" fight. Players willingness to use such crutchs paints a pitiful picture in that category.

And I give up on defending the best ship/class the War Galleon ;)
More firepower/hull and pseudo useless front cannons always win out because its cool.
Hey I do have a War Frigate on each of my pirates, I wouldnt short myself one, just never drive the berg.

LOL! I ever see Leanrdo De'Caprio (or whatever his name is) trying to 'fly' at the front of my ship - I'll boot him off the plank! :D

That is flatly incorrect. The war galleon has more broadsides and a better hull, to take down many more targets faster and safer than you can in a war frigate. Their only drawback is that in SvS, their "hit box" is larger than Cuba.

If you want more sailing rep, use the war galleon. If you want more cannon rep, use the war galleon. If you want more exotic targets, use the war galleon. If you want more plunder while doing any of those things, use the war galleon.

If you want to show off saying you own the most expensive boat in the game, use the war frigate. But do confess that the war galleon is WHY you were able to afford it. :-)

Oh! Now im so confused after ready this thread. Some people give good reasons about the galleon and the figrate. But i just cant decide wich one i want to get! :,(

I never owned a War Galleon first - always the War Frigate bought diredctly from owning a frigate :D

Now I do own War Galleons, just to say I own them. But I don't owe them any credit to my owning a WF :)

Now - as I've said before, my reasons for the WF are not of money or power, I just like the look of them (I am so impratical LOL :D )... so Edward's and Zeps points are valid for those arguements (though I am a bit of a power freak so I still use my WF for its better hull / target size).

A WG is much better because it can do more damage on a broadside and can hold more booty.

Pick what you like best is what it really comes down to ya'll!!!

Different strokes for different folks, thats why we want to be able to customize our ships! ;)

Hay man!

Double Gold Days: WF and a crew of five, PDF/Outcast - launch, sink ships, port, repeat
Sailing alone: WG, PDF/Outcast - launch, sink ships, port, repeat
Sailing with a crew just let them level cannons: WF, go to area where their skill levels are best suited - launch, sink ships, port, repeat
Privateering: WS - I like the war sloop for SvS because of low profile,speed and maneuvaribility. Only drawback is no forward firing cannons.

My crew and War Galleon would pull in 1400-2300 approximatey every 10-15 mins. Quit early after pulling in over 20k. How did you do?

LOL! That is certainly easy to understand! My suggestion is to try other peoples ships and see which you like to drive best. If you don't like driving it, why own it? It shouldn't be too hard to get a chance to try someone else's ship. I've been on several crews where the captain has begged for someone to give them a break from driving. Also if you explain your situation it should be easy to find a friend or guild member to give you a chance to test drive.

You could also try the smaller versions of each. If you like a regular frigate you'll love a war frigate and conversely, if you like a reg. galleon you'll love the war galleon.

If you haven't seen it yet here is a link to the stats of all the different ships:

http://www.disneyonlineworlds.com/in...hips#Ship_Data

When reading these stats be aware of a couple of things. One is that "Speed Sail Points" does not refer to the speed of the ship but rather the hit points for the sail. It seems a lot of people make that mistake. The other is that these stats do not tell the whole story. They tell you nothing about the speed and maneuverability of the ship nor do they tell you how big of a target the ship presents. These factors are just as important as the factors enumerated in the chart.

So try them out and see which fits your sailing style and fighting style. That's the best ship for you. The best ship for me or anyone else is irrelevant.

On Saturday my lv38 with 5 skill points in treasure sense with crew (2 lv40's, 2 at lv36/37) pulled over 19k. On Sunday I used my lv40 with 5 skill points in treasure sense and the same crew pulled over 20k. Then I lost it all at the poker table on PDF to one of my little pirates. :)

edit: My little pirate will only have 1 point in treasure sense. He's being built for SvS.

Good hauls, me, my level 31 and 21 guildies quit an hour early, got boring and our pockets were full hehe.

Thanks for your help!


What is tresure sense?

Depends on what you like to do. War frigates are good to have if you are a crew person. War galleons are good to have if you are a loner.:)

I always liked sailing on War Frigates more..but yea, it's really up to the player and your objectives.

if you could
 

if you could chose what would you chose?

a war frigate or a


war galleon?

please respond!:tongue:

ive decided, im going with the war galleon and using it to buy WR

I think the War Galleon is a good choice.

Holds more.. and if you can master sailing (ie the handling) on a War Galleon.

You'll find the other ships more fun to play around with for a change, than vica versa.

If your used to the others first, the galleon class is harder to master.. may be why so many prefer the frigate class.

I got a surprise. Obviously it depends on what type of sailing you do and what you are after. With a big crew and chasing gold, more cargo with a war galleon. PVP I would say the War frigate.

The surprise, to level = Galleon.

Entire time testing One of the things I constantly sent in was to fix war galleon broadsides. Mainly solo sailing there are certain things you do to try to gain more rep. I worked both cannon and sailing at the same time, sails then broadsides. I pretty much watch most the guild race around to get a war galleon, or war frigate, as I kept passing by them with my galleon. Finally told them, galleon gives more rep/ less shots (time), sinks the same ship faster.

Tested this several times, though perhaps close on rep, will sink faster with a galleon. The reason for this is half the war galleon broadsides now misses your target. It will no doubt hit from the side a lot better, but when looking for rep you don't want to try to sink ships from the sides, you want to do more hits, not so much single shot sinking's.

Result = shoot sails all but front on skellie. Switch to broadsides, I used first open fire and put a lot of the hits in front sail not doing damage but counting up hits. 3 broadsides to sink ship, 4 times, same thing and many times 5 times, to sink with a war galleon and half the broadsides missing. Galleon 99 rep, war galleon 97 rep specific example I remember, while taking more time and broadsides with a war galleon.

As for tricky situations, I have sunk war frigate's eitc, with single open fire shots to the side with a galleon. So go show them how to solo sailing to 25, good luck.

well there both equal frigates broadsides do more damage but war galleon has more broad side frigates has more hull but war galleons hull is stronger only difference is cannon placement and cargo i prefer frigate galleons alot slower and easier to hit

IMHO the smaller ships take significantly more skill to sail than the War Frigate and the War Galleon. I personally prefer my War Sloop most of the time because it takes some thinking to sail. It is ridiculously easy to fill the cargo hold of any war class ship for experienced sailors even against the highest level ships sailing solo. Why take all of the fun out of sailing by simply crushing everything in the sea? Staying out long enough to finish some of the longer quests (lvl 4 cutlass nightmare flashback) in a war sloop was challenging.

I prefer my War Galleon. The broadsides are amazing and the cargo bay holds a lot of stuff!! I love it.

I would have to sail war fraigte. Its faster tehn a galleon and more firepower but it cant hold as much but it could sial faster back to port and get back out tehre so its a trade off i would say war fraigte

Yea, but I am maxed out on Full sail and ramming speed so I can get away fast if I need to trust me. Not that that ever happens tho....lol

Depends of what you're doing as to your choice of tactics. If I'm out boarding large flagships such as Collossus I prefer the War galleon for its larger cargo space. If I'm out sailing for general plunder or helping crewmates level cannons I prefer the War Frigate. Of my two high level pirates each of them owns two War Frigates and one War Galleon. Just to give you an idea of which ships I sail the most.

Personally, I like to have all three war ships for the optons and for the collective aspect.
The first war ship I'd buy is a war galleon. Great broadsides and great cargo hold which will help you quickly gain the gold needed for another war ship. I always use my war galleon to go plundering.
Afterwards buy either a war sloop or a war frigate (war sloop will obviously be easier to acqure the funds for, but maybe you're a saving type.) Use the war sloop to quickly travel from island to island for when you just need to get somewhere and don't need/want to go plundering on the way. Other than that it is fairly useless to be honest.
War frigate is the best ship for PvP. It is reasonably swift, has decent broadsides, has good armour and great cannons for your crew to shoot down those pesky French/Spaniards. It's a good balance between the War Sloop and the War Galleon.

I say frigate. They're faster, have more health (the galleon has more armor though), thay've got more guns, and they just plain look cool. In my opinion, Galleons are just too slow.

I used to believe the War Galleon was the best ship due to its superior cargo handling. But I sail alone most of the time and with my booty capped at 65,000 I prefer the War Frigate and its handling of more abuse from the enemy ships

I prefer the WS now. Having the full war fleet I don't have much use for gold and the other ships are to slow for me now adays. The WF is nice for SVS with big crews, WG for plundering, and WS for traveling between islands and SVS.

I love the front cannons. They have millions of tactics that I love. Biting the tail, the reverse, the complete-turn turn-gait: they rock.

If the front-facing rear cannons of the heavier Galleons can be used anything like the Frigate's cannons, then it may have a showing. Still, I like every class except the Galleon, for practical matters.

War Frigat
 

Personaly i like the was Galleon just cause it has more fire power and more cargo

I have to agree with this. The WF has more "hit points", more cannons, and can sail faster than the WG. The WG is good for collecting more plunder, but is not the firepower match for the WF. In privateering the WG is a sitting duck to almost any type of sloop or frigate, especially from the bow -- just get in front of the WG and unless it has a big crew with 2 people on those poopdeck guns which have a limited forward fire capacity, she's a big ol' target.
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Well War gally if you want to get money fast but it is not a noob ship if you stay broadside you will sink you have to know how to sail it. I have heard people say War gally is faster there crazy it says on game it the slowest ship. it dosent matter how many sails.

War frighte if you svs and just go like to have fun. front cannons better protection.
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Someone should do speed tests again to see what the current status of ships speed are.

The last scientific/timed test performed I believe found all ships "equal" in speed with the exception of the "Light Sloop" being a hair faster. People forget about the influence some passives have on thier ships which may reflect differences in ship speed.

Yes I know what the descriptions say, but then again grape shot is for non-existent sea monsters, so I don't read to much into those descriptions.

I would start with the War Galleon for plundering (holds the most)...however it does not have the hull strength of the War Frigate nor does it have front cannons. The rear top cannons on the War Galleon can fire almost completely forward, it's just harder to see your target. Get a nice size crew and stay far away from enemy ships when blastin' em.

My purchases for my last 3 pirates have been War Galleon first, then War Frigate and last but far from least the War Sloop (great for speed and SVS and fun to sail).


Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

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It used to be, get the war galleon first to build up gold, get the war frigate to show off, then get the war sloop to round out the collection. Since SvS was added, it is now: get the war galleon first, get the war sloop next (and get slaughtered because you are too low level to SvS) then get the war frigate to round out the collection.

On my first pirate, I foolishly bought a war frigate first, thinking I'd get more because it cost more. When I finally got my war galleon, I fell in love. Nothing plunders as well as a war galleon. Has enough room for lots of friends and nobody has to fight over the (mostly-useless) forward cannons - everybody gets to shoot at the same targets at the same time. So everyone aboard has a good time.

At some point, I hope Disney adds weather (waves) to the high seas. The only thing that will stay afloat is a galleon (light, regular or war.)

First Buy A War Frigate.
Get Loads Of Cash.
Then Buy A War Gallon.
Get Loads Of Cash.
Then Buy A War Sloop!
Now you have every War Ship!!!!!!