French Assassins
 

Name French Assassins

Rules
1. No spamming or swearing of any kind
2. No personal information shall be given away
3. Respect everyone in the guild
4. Ask if you can help someone they may like to work alone
5. I am always happy to help you but dont beg for help
6. Ask before you take the wheel of someone elses ship

Guild requirements
Unlimited:
lv 15
must have dagger

Limited:
Must be lv 10
Must have James pidegly quest complete

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Every FRIDAY at 9pm eastern time we will have a kingshead raid.
Every Tuesday at 3pm eastern time we will have a party ( With Rum ).
Every Thursday we will have a poker tournament
Every day we will have tri-outs to become officers just ask me

nobody ever does respond (swash crys)

no one cares i hate the big guilds on the forums they steal all the members i get the scraps ( swash blows up big guilds on forums) THAT FELT GOOD

Rome wasnt built in a day! (somewhat prior to Pirate era, so maybe they even said that then.. hehe)

I have always suggested that guilds looking for members post similarly, but tell more about what your plans, allegiances, philosophies are.. even perhaps a set of rules/guidelines. Alas, even with time spent on all that, its no guarantee.

Best of luck ye and the French Assassins (sounds like a cool name) :)

ok i updated with rules why do i even bother

The first two rules put people off...
"No bothering me for help it will NOT be provided from me i am currently busy earning rep.
2. No attacking anything I attack i need good rep i will only let u fight with me if i ask u"

How generous of you...

i'm not going to bother with annoying children asking me to sink a ferret for them

I hear ya Swash, however you put it rather bluntly (unfriendly like manner)

How about, something like.

Helping guildmates is encouraged, but this is not the sole purpose of the guild. All members must contribute, and not just rely on the others to carry them. Please do not apply if your intention is solely to find help with your pirates advancement without contributing to the rest of the group.

Rules #1 and 2:

1. No bothering me for help it will NOT be provided from me i am currently busy earning rep.
2. No attacking anything I attack i need good rep i will only let u fight with me if i ask u.

I see the reason already why people wouldn't want to join-those 2 rules make people think that they can't ask you for help or anything without getting the reply: "I AM BUSY GETTING REP, DO IT YOURSELF!"

Although you are right about not helping people with ferrets, if I were you, I would make it clear that I will help people, but NOT carry people throughout the entire game.

I recommend you read this thread: So Ye Want to Start a Guild, Huh?

i am also on my second pirate trying to earn the boss battle

Well I have a second pirate too and you don't see me telling guildmates to not bother me for help. I hope you've read that thread. ;)

u would yell too if you had a bunch of ppl asking you to sink 20 ships for THEIR benefit and they dont even thank you when i first got a galleon i was a chofer for my friends they ordered me to go from perdida to devils anvil to tortuga not one thx or thank you or thank u or ty

Swash, I understand that statement, I sometimes have people who don't appriciate the help, and what do I do? I always remind them who helped them and if they keep demanding or begging help, (against Partners In Crime's rules btw) I kick em out!

I recommend the same rule I gave Partners In Crime: DO NOT beg or demand help, just ask.

OK i have re updated the rules to make everything clear

Brother--I don't forsee any people joining this guild. Don't be upset at a lack of pirates banging on the door.

I see you updated the rules, I think it's like 3% better now. Although, you , Swash, are missing a key item in this thread that will (or should at least) ,make people even have the slightest thought of considering joining.

That key item is something all the big POF guilds have included in their guild threads, I won't tell you what it is, try to figure it out.....




To me...some people might need to spend some time being a member of another guild--a good guild, study the guildmaster's actions, learn from them, and if you think you're ready to be a GM, then leave and start on your own.

This is just my opinion but I believe that this option would be better for you Swash, in order to create an even more successful guild in the future. But do as you please, you'll discover the REAL reason people won't join sooner or later....

i dont need no age limit if thats what your thinking

No, no, it's not age limit. ;)

(may not be what AdmiralSavvy had in mind, but this is what I see right away)

Swash, if I were to join your guild. Whats in it for me?

Other than common sense rules, all I see are rules defined to protect you as the GM.

What perhaps you need to understand, is that people wont join a guild for just these two reasons:

The guilds name is "French Assassins"
The guilds GM is "Swashbuckler"

Neither of these are impressive facts, nor do they make me want to join your guild.

Zeppers you are on the right track.... ;)

It's something all good guilds have that makes their guild good and eye-catching to the guild-hunters.

i recently took a look a war wenches and all i saw that i was missing as put every one before you and officers vote

Yes, selflessness is a very important key to a successful guild, but that wasn't what I was trying to point out.

What I was trying to point out was that you need to give reasons why people would want to join: Ex. benefits such as helpful guild mates and a helpful GM. Activities like Kingshead raids, you know, stuff that people might be looking for in thier guild hunt.

Think like the Guild Hunter. ;)

Well, I think your missing part of the point... Yes, we've talked about rules, which still you could learn a bit about how to word/write them. They still sound centered around YOU as the GM (sounds like a BOSS in your terms), not the guild/group as a whole.

Its also about what you have to offer. Why should ANYONE join your guild?
"Because Swashbuckler thinks it'd be cool" is not a valid reason, nor does it translate to anyone else in that fashion.

Like AdmiralSavvy said, "Think like a guild hunter".

You compared to the Wenchs, Ok.. Lets do both at the same time...

The War Wenchs have a well established guild, not a new one just starting out. They also have a unique approach that immediately draws interest (thier Wenchs only gimmick). Additionally they have several reputable members (not going to talk about what kind of reputations now!) that draw interest to thier group, which is probably thier biggest recruiting tool alone.

Why would I join? Sounds like the cool place for the pirate lass's to be. How do I know this? Word of mouth, a luxury well established clans have. Some pretty cool people in it, not to mention already has several people in it... worth consideration.

French Assassins, new guild, as far as I can tell there are 2 guys in it and one of them left already, the GM writes rules concerning and surrounding how he is to be treated but appears to show no concern for the rest of the group. Wow, secret hiding places (this attacts noobs, but will NEVER attact an experienced pirate).

Why would I join? Good question, the GM hasnt given any reasons, and since they are new, I have no reputation to go on. Put this guild as the one i'll try if noone else will have me list.


Getting people to try the guild is the main goal. If its a new guild, you have to offer reasons to want to join. If you run it right, and it fits, they'll stay.

Swash, don't try to compare yourself too much to the Wenchs--to the point of copying their presentation. It will just show everyone that the GM is a wannabe leader instead of an ACTUAL Guildmaster. An actual Guildmaster being someone who keeps guild order but doesn't create a guild dictatorship, also, someone who realizes that people will want your help at times, and the GM actually being decent enough to help. Plus, presenting your guild in a welcoming and eye-catching way---- instead of just going straight to consenquences and requirements without benefits, guild activities, etc. explaining to people that you are looking to be a GUILDMASTER, not a BOSS, those are 2 different things.


You said, "I've updated the rules" although I don't see very much improvemt. They still have the same self-centered tone.

When people look at this, they may think "What kind of rules are these? This guy really needs to stop thinking about only his self-gratification if he expects other people to join.



If I imagine myself a lvl 20 in your guild, this is how it will play out:

Me: Hey Swash, I need help getting grenades, can you help please?

You: No, I'm busy lvling up and I don't wanna be bothered with some lvl 20 at the moment, get a friend or do it yourself!!!!

Me: You know what? There are a lot better guilds out there who are actually helpful! I should just join a better guild since you're too "busy" to do your job.

You: Fine, leave! I don't care!!




You see Swash, put this situation into another perspective and you might see what the problem is.

The bottom line is that people want to be in a guild where the Guildmaster actually does his or her job.

From the beginning I've read this thread I've always believed that You are just not ready to be a Guildmaster.

What can we give them pirat$es has no trading system no gold giving system all anyone can give is help help help if thats not it then nothing is

*sigh* You just don't get it. Running a guild has nothing to do with gold.... it's about bringing a group of people together to work on quests together, lvl up and most importantly, have fun in the game. And also, running a guild can't be ALL help and nothing else, you can actually have fun. By establishing different guild activites such as War Fleets, land raids, all that. Or just by having a friendly guild chat.

It's a rather naive statement when you consider the main focus of a guild being gold.

i just said help is all we can offer and raids and partys can only be known about by the guild members

Where did you get that idea from?? A GM can for sure establish a guild activity, via DxD or a guild site.

Help is something we have to offer but it's not ALL we have to offer.

Look at my signature, I'm Guildmaster and I have a signature about a Guild war fleet, meaning and proving that raids/war fleets can also be known by the GM.

let me tellyou something i cant make a signature cause i didnt pay the forums
and none of my friends have dxd thats why i want members

I was just using my signature as an example to my statement.

And how about making a guild site? Guildlaunch is a good site to try for that.

can you give me a link and would i have to pay to make the site and with the new chat system i probably couldnt say the name of the site

Guildlaunch

No, it can either be free or paid.

And to say it in game, try this:

French Assassins *hit enter*

Dot *hit enter*

Guildlaunch *enter*

Dot *enter it in*

C *enter*

O *enter*

M *enter*

:D

we cant say c, o, or m
we would have to say arr oh arr

Really? I can say C O M no problem.....

Maybe it's your chat settings.

well i could make the little plus sign in the corner go away butthen no one could see my writing

Maybe it's a bug, keep trying it. Or try live chat, they might help.

I'm no expert on chat settings although another way to say COM is this way:

come (take away the e)

thx for your help i be back shortly

No problem, I just thought you needed the help. Hopefully you'll learn more about the role as GM from the different posts on here, I wish you the best of luck. :)

by the way is there any chance my second pirate can join partners in crime

Sure, look at my guild thread here first for the guild info and rules.

Partners In Crime

ok i have updated the rules to suit everyone

Those rules are MUCH better--good job! However, you're still missing the critical element. It's not the rules.

It's the Raison d'Etre (reason for being).

To really draw people in, you need to have a reason for somebody to want to join the guild. What's the PURPOSE of your guild?

You have a great start.

tell that to other guilds

I understand you frustration, but you say you want your guild to be popular, I think you should be a bit nicer about the matter. :)
Players are often needing guilds for comfort, leveling, and to make friends. Help them sometimes, understand thier situation.
You were a noob once too, we all were.
:) Viva La French

so guildlauch you can use for free? for ever? no limit of time? really? if so, i'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yup its free

WOW Swash, amazing improvement! All we need now is a reason! :)

great how do i get one

Think of the reasons I described before like guild activies, active members, etc, etc. and include it in the guild thread.

wheres your reason if u have one what is it

Reasons I would use: Various guild activities, active members, helpful GM, mature, social members.

Okay.

"HEY OTHER GUILDS! IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL GUILD HAVE A RAISON D'ETRE!"

As for you, I'm not attacking. I'm trying to help you establish and build a decent guild. Why? Well, because you asked.

What's my shtick? Check out my webpage and thread in the guilds forum. How do I get members?

We help people (n00bs and old farts alike) and crew up a LOT. I rarely see groups of guildmates crewed up for events like I see the Krewe do. And I rarely see guild webpages like mine. My guildies like to see their exploits in writing--so they crew up with me and the next thing they know they're in print.

For me, ME getting ahead isn't the thing. Enjoying the game is. And I still get a lot of enjoyment from crewing up with others and helping out. People LIKE that and want to join.

Just saying.

but guildlaunch only says start up for free. then it say that all features starting at $6.00 a month.

Just a note - the Black Barts Krewe are using a free website - maybe check it out and get details at the bottom of their page.

TROLLING this thread about MY guiild NOt yours

Oh he was just pointing something out, and plus, he's a Mini-Mod so he wouldn't troll. :)

Easy there matey!!!

Ya ask for help, and people offer it.

Anyone that leads to a question about a webhost should fully expect people to post thier guild sites as examples of thier hosts services.

Well Swashbuckler--I hope all goes well for you. I'm done with this thread.

Swash, I reread your first posts. The edit was ALOT better!!!! Way to go!!

Everyone here (as far as I could tell) are just trying to help you along. I wish I had been so lucky. And after reading everyones Posts I need to go edit mine...LOL

As for the reputation of the Wenches...I hope it is a good one. If not let me know and I will do what I can to fix it LOL Just keep in mind we ARE Wenches after all LMBO.

Good Job Swash you are getting there.

Bella

mods close this thread im making a new guild ( waiting for new name to be accepted so this guild is closed