Glitches and Playing the game
 

Glitches can be totally used to your advantage sometimes, but I was wondering. If working on your quests and leveling up your weapons, do you see glitches as a "cheat"? I mean, I feel like if I use a glitch, im taking the fun out of the gameplay. Now if I was using a second pirate after already completing the quest on a first one, then I might use them but for now, I feel like I'm taking the fun out of the game! How do you feel about them? :piratear:

i have not used any glitches, but have stumbled on a few.... i thnk they may be ok for lvling weaps after boss but prior to that using them can become a crutch... u may not mean them to be but ultimatley they r and u lose the overall concept of gameplay... learning what ammo types to use on villians and stuff... and remeber that when u share a glitch w/ someone it spreads like wild fire.... and soon the rooaming developers that frequent this site and may be incognito....... on the live game will catch word of it and fix.... early in gaming we called these things easter eggs.... like a random treat... dont rely on them.....


das jus' my opinion

I know that I find myself on both sides of the philosophical question. For example, the Catacombs glitch at the top of the stairs, I do use for leveling up grenades. But grenades are their own special problem. You have the problem of learning the two types of aiming them, PLUS the struggle to survive once you do learn how to aim. Enough raiders make it through that wall to make you have to pay attention, anyway. But I get disgusted when I see an idiot with a repeater cheat, leveling up their dagger in that same place. Likewise, it is pathetic to see someone leveling up their voodoo staff from that same place. I find myself asking, "did they make it to level thirty without learning how to sail to Kingshead?"

I guess the real problem I have, is with the grenades. In real life, a single grenade would kill everyone nearby. In game play, they scratch monsters insignificantly. Since the metaphor starts out broken, it seems reasonable to cheat, to bring grenades a little bit closer to reality. But even mastered, grenades are an unusable weapon...whenever you are in a situation where you might need to use them, doing so would send your pirate to jail.

About the cheats, in general, there is a level of sophistication required to learn just how to do one - a brand new player is not going to stumble across one. By the time you figure out how to use one to your advantage, some aspects of the game are already repetitive.

I dont consider them cheats until someone "relies" on them.

Using them is not 'relying' on them, so I dont see any harm in using them unless it gives unfair advantages say in PVP for example.

IMO If someone doesnt want them posted/shared because they are afraid they will be fixed, then they are finding/using them for the wrong reasons. These types are relying on them to play the game (a crutch), not using them for any additional entertainment they may allow us. This is a script kiddie "cheat" attitude in my opinion. Not only should they be shared, but reported so they WILL be fixed. We ALL should WANT them fixed, it hinders the games progression.

I use glitches to AMAZE my friends the only way i woul see glitches as cheats is if someone entered a code for extra rep or gold

I am on two sides of this issue. Yes I don't tell of some I know, why get more people doing it than what I have seen already. I am against the pvp glitches and players using a trick to beat others because they can't game play well enough with out it.

Glitches through out the game that helps in leveling and such things, I don't see so much a problem with. If you reach 40 in a week sooner than you would of before, who does that effect. You have nothing else to do a week sooner, so what. There are so many out there, I doubt many play with out using one, one way or other.

Using grenades at King's for instance , is a glitch, if you use protection from the soldiers getting to you. Using the sailing glitch to be invulnerable, I see quite often now. Even using a teleport to your cargo quest location is a glitch. Many of these are easy to figure out if you try it or just think about it for a second, new player or not.

I could argue its good for grenades because they are lame, but the real fact is, the grenades were made lame in the fact that you can't put points into them and get the same rep you do by not putting points into them. I wouldn't call them useless though, a full stat siege bomb kills most anything in one hit up to level 30 or so. As that goes, it actually does the most single amount of damage in pvp versus anything else.

Thanks for the opinions guys...was curious to know what ya'll thought!

I just wish someone would explain the glitches to me so that I could use them! I don't know one single glitch.:bookishfj7:

Look around the forum here, there are several posted, not in one place, they change from time to time.

I view glitches the same way I view Gameshark - I don't have the skills of other players, therefore I need to use any advantage I can. Like I stink at gernades. So if I knew the Padres behind the wall glitch, I'd probably use it just to level up my gernades. (I couldn't even level them up during the double rep weekend. That's how bad I am with them.) At least get them to level 15. After that unless there's special quests you get at level 20 I wouldn't use them that much.

Well the coolest "grenade" is the siege grenade you get at level 20.
HOWEVER if the last part "wouldn't use them that much" is key to you...
Noone ends up using them "that" much. Although they do occasionally have some uses.

That siege grenade is the one that looks bigger than a bowling ball...
Fun to fool around with, but not real "useful".

I use the silly glitchs to do this stuff occasionally, for similar reasons Jami. I consider it like this, if any person is being cheated.. its myself.
Using the glitchs to cheat AGAINST others (SvS/PvP) is where I start having a problem with them. :)

Yeah I'd never use it during PVP UNLESS they had already agreed to it to help me with a PVP quest. That way they know about it and obviously have no problem with it.

But man, wish I knew that Padres glitch.

Does it also work for pistols and daggers, BTW? I'd love to get those up to level 15 too.

The one i've used doesnt seem to work quite that "perfect" but would probably work with those. I would take damage, and had a friend to heal :) But I did take significantly less damage had I been standing closer, and taking the grenade his on top of it. I think this is one of those types that can only be "shown".

Once again I couldn't agree more with Zeppers
 

mebbe cuz us old farts think all too much alike. I think glitching is fun. I know most of them but I only use one or two most of the time and then only if Im at some disadvantage in terms of time.

For instance, I might get 30 minutes on the old "computation machine" or perhaps an hour on the company laptop in between testing because my lovely wife, who was just granted :grin: the Wal Mart award for the "Teacher of the Year" in our school district btw, at first I thought it was for the state but she corrected me as n e teacher of the year would ... is hoarding the Dreadwash family pc, I might get in a few moments a day after football practice - I am an assistant coach.

Therefore I think I deserve to glitch when I sail for instance if I want to get my cannon level up a little. However any glitch that hurts a fellow player or harms code in any way is unacceptable to me. The glitch where you take over another players ship for instance or attack another pirate is way off limits and out of bounds.

Dog Dreadwash lvl 40

I do play while at work myself sometimes, and often get interrupted by phone calls (hey thats my job), I found that doing the KH glitch let me play some without worrying about dieing everytime I got a phone call. :)

Congrats to the wife, and have fun coach! hehe

i have used some glitches that helped me lvl up the stupid grenades. (Catacombs Glitch) I've used the KH glitch once, but after a while it is no fun. The only thing about most glitches is that it takes the strategy out of how to kill an enemy or sink a ship. That is the fun of the game, being able to out-think the opponent. Trying to kill enemies alot higher than you without dying. But I'm with most of the ppl here, if you are using a glitch to create an advantage against another ppl, then it is JUST WRONG to be using a glitch.

Whatever you decide, just make sure that it is fun for you and you are not using it to take advantage of someone else.

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I did actually manage to get behind the rocks/walls in Padres, but I couldn't hit anything. It was all too far away. And if I tried to get closer I'd unglitch.

It's the one near the officer and the raider I'm interested in, I'll freely admit. Where you're right behind the wall. I know the raider can still attack you but it's usually the officer who kills me.

I've only used a glitch to get rep once the Kingshead invinciblilty/Invisibility glitch but then I found Tormenta....

There used to be one on Cutthroat where if you went behind some plants near a stump you'd be underneath the stump. As long as you didn't move forward you could fire at the stump with your pistol and not get attacked. But it seems that one is fixed.

They posted an article about bugs, and not to use them for bad, if you see a bug, report it!

What if it's a bug like the one that you can pvp on Tortuga?

All the glitches I've ever used is the Invincible Sailing glitch, the one where you can walk out of the ship, and mostly wall glitches. Those glitches, to me, can't be harmful to other players unless you're using the Assassin Glitch in SvS. To me, glitches can be good and bad at the same time. They can be used as something just to play with, something to amuse, or they can be used to cheat against others and to gain an unfair advantage.

In my opinion, some of the harmless glitches are the:

• Invincible Sailing Glitch
• Flying Through Island Glitch
• Jumping ship (not in SvS)
• KH Glitch
• And all the other 1,439 of them. ;)

On the other hand, the glitches that can cause harm to others are the:

• Flying Assassin Glitch
• Repairing while sailing
• Wall glitches in PvP
• And the infinite ammo and 3x Lightning/Explosives glitch. (I say these 2 because it just gives people an unfair battle advantage in SvS, but it's ok while fighting NPC ships) :)

Basically, all glitches that people use and take advantage of to lvl faster than normal, or to seem like they're just awesome in SvS when they're really not are the glitches that I have always hated and the ones that I want to see fixed ASAP.

I just listed these to give everyone an idea of the glitches I believe are cheats and which ones aren't.

I personally use the KH, Catacombs, and Torments glitch to lv weapons. Usually at night when I'm trying to make myself fall asleep. Believe me pushing the SAME kay over and over makes me fall asleep faster than any sleeping pill on the market.

However, I feel using the invincible ship, unlimited ammo, and auto repair glitch in SvS is DISPICIABLE!!!! For that verry reason I quit doing SvS and will not return to it until it is fixed!!!!

Also the same situation in PvP.

To sum it up if ye use a glitch that has no effect on other players, go right ahead!!! However, if you use a glitch aginst another player you are lower than pond scum!!

As for learning stratagy on which weapon/ammo and stratagy to use aginst an enemy...Already done that about 4 pirates ago LOL

Ya know - I've never been a fan of this glitch...

Ok, maybe I'm gonna toot my own horn here for a sec - but I consider myself a pretty good shot. One reason I believe I've become a good shot is because - I had to be :D You don't be sailing in waters where three L37 NPC Ships suddenly appear and survive...

Today I see a lot of grapple glitchers... but they cant sail and shoot worth didly. Their sailing right up to ships without care (not learning 'fish tailing' or 'the front swipe') and can be a poor shot and feel good about it...

Don't get me wrong - for those who are good shots and have done their time... sure - its entertaining... but I still do it the old fashon way (gotta keep my skills sharp... ;) )

As a note: since it appear this will soon be fixed according to the latest test notes - its a non-issue now... I just wonder when its gone and you all of a sudden see these poor shooters and sailors heading to Davy Jones - they got to do some serious training :)

from Disney themselves, at the splash screen to launch pirates:

well, I. like many others, am on both sides. yeah, some are good, and often funny, and good to impress others, ( like getting behind the bar at taverns ), but some, like unfair playing in pvp/svs is worse than lord Becketts ego! ( lol, it HUGE.) I must admit, though, I have tried the invincible/invisible glitch while battling NPC'S. but i noticed that, EVERY plunder was ALL cargo crates! that PROVES that cheaters never prosper.
but, because people see svs glitching is FUNNY, and all, I haven't gone out there, and I wont until I can BEAT them when they're cheating. that will not only show 'em,
but it would mean I could beat the glitchs, witch, in my opinion, is the best skill you could ever learn. As for standing behind the gate in kingshead and using the grenades, I say " why not?" it doesn't affect anyone, and its one of yer only chances of lvling up without constantly getting killed.

until than,

:rip:Jack The Wise:rip:

I like the ones that let you get to places like the kingshead secret dock bit, If people are just mucking around and having fun then that's what it's all about. But you have to think when people use them to level up, that someone who maxes havin not used any glitches and just hard work, deserves it a little more.

Oh how I would like to agree with you on that. Trouble is, Disney doesn't feel that way, so people out there taking out the cheats and healing on move boats got the nice slap in the face, and skills extremely reduced. Cheats though, left in the game.