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Swash 06-10-2008 03:37 AM

pearl boss battle tips
 
now u all might not like these tips but they will work

first bring THREE people i do not care if there your friends if u bring 12 the frigates will kill u too many people equals too much damage

second choose the best sailor ( highest leveled sailor )

third if u are sailing that does not mean u can not man a cannon u need to fire too

fourth fire at the same thing it saves time and health

fifth only bring people with thunder fire will not work

sixth when officers come use voodoo dolls so u can all heal eachother

seventh get tonics those officers are strong ecpecially the lv 39

eighth get full ammo

ninth make a plan before u take the wheel

tenth DO NOT I REPEAT TRY TO PASS THROUGH THE FORTS THEY WILL FIRE TRIPLE STRENGTH AT U

eleventh get FAR away from the goliath it will kill u if u get too close

twelth kill the officers they cut u down if u dont

thirteenth bring good and strong people ot ur best friend whos a lv seven on a basic account

fourteenth most important BRING ME i am very good at sailing killing navy and firing a canon

fifteenth dont go alone a captains nothing without his loyal crew

sixteenth i already said this only three can go u and two other people hopefully u me and someonelse lol but its stupid to bring 12 people officers die quickly but so will u

seventeenth do not fight over the wheel it does not matter who drives as long as u survive

these are the tips for the black pearl boss battle these are probably the best tips u can find if u dont follow these tips leys just say it was nice knowing you

Sven Osymthe 06-10-2008 05:58 PM

These r some good tips but there is an easier way that actually if u do it right u will finish in green

Dr. Zeppers 06-10-2008 06:50 PM

Some tips here are pretty good, a few are really "situation" specific.

Whoever is sailing is more or less forced to a cannon on the stage against the frigates, so thier cannon skills must be decent. Once past this stage leaving the helm could be further dangerous depending on your approach to the bridges.

If you get a few level 30+ pirates with staff on your crew, clearing the dock of officers in the first stage of the battle takes about 20 seconds (all staffs blasting wither) and helps everyone survive easily, and likely not even need to heal anyone.

I won my boss battle with just me sailing, and one guildy at cannons.

I've beaten it with as few as 2 pirates, and as many as 12.
It maybe harder with more people, but you have more firepower.
It simply comes down to who is on the crew, and how well thier shooting, and how well the pirate at the helm is at avoiding enemy fire while positioning the ship for attack of the bridges (and then Goliath).

I have noticed in the numerous boss battle's i've participated that there seem to be 3-4 different approachs from the sailing perspective.

Anyone care to elaborate on thier boss battle 'sailing' tactics? Im a master sailor, but always choose NOT to 'drive' as I havent really gotten comfortable with any method, and i'm usually busy blasting with cannons. :)


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Swash 06-10-2008 07:04 PM

yes but now if u bring 12 its pretty much impossible to beat i think the amount of people doing boss should be 1-3 because last bridge has explosive if u have 12 people and full health ( not likely ) u will die in 1 hit

Sven Osymthe 06-10-2008 07:09 PM

Swashbuckler if u have takecover u should be able to avoid being sunk by explosives

Swash 06-10-2008 07:14 PM

take cover does not work

Dr. Zeppers 06-10-2008 07:42 PM

Well obviously our experiences differ.

I have found that MORE pirates makes it easier, that last several battles I participated we had several high level pirates... mostly all over level 30, including a few level 40's. The frigates go down in a few seconds with 4-5 people with high level cannons on each side.

It depends on how the one at the helm approachs the battle, and who you crew...

And yes, Take Cover DOES work.



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Kat Stormhawk 06-10-2008 08:19 PM

I think it's important how experienced the people are on the cannons, but the deal breaker is the person sailing the ship. Slow and steady seems to win in the end. A good captain that knows how to position the ship and avoid fire and knows to stay put until all bridges are down before barreling through, seems to be the key in all successful battles I've been in.

Also, take cover has been a life saver for many of the captains too.

Swash 06-10-2008 10:44 PM

i've tried take cover it doesnt work all it does is nothing

Wheelsim 06-13-2008 03:55 AM

Thanks for the info yet i dont think ill be doing the boss batle anytime soon lol. Thanks anyway

nat sharkskull 06-13-2008 07:08 AM

I have only one skill point in take cover and it does work but it take a long time to charge back up, then you sink. lol

banshe 06-13-2008 10:06 AM

instead of saying one two three cant you say 1. 2. 3.?
but good tips

narutocooper 06-14-2008 11:21 PM

Take Cover works its just hard to notice since the dmage taken from the cannons is only reduced about 20%.

mesmex110 06-20-2008 04:35 AM

Nice tips, i'll keep them in mind if i ever get to the boss battle. i just hope they come out with another story chapter and increase the lvl cap sometime soon. i may be only lvl 24, but i hope they'll have expanded by the time i'm lvl 40

aqamarina 06-21-2008 05:22 PM

I have also found that more pirates makes it easier.

My first time on the boss battle, it took us about 10 times to actually finish the battle. When we did win, we had 12 crewmembers on deck, and received minimal damage.

Swash 06-21-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aqamarina (Post 48854)
I have also found that more pirates makes it easier.

My first time on the boss battle, it took us about 10 times to actually finish the battle. When we did win, we had 12 crewmembers on deck, and received minimal damage.

well you can win with 12 but they all mostly need to have fury fire might not work it depends upon how much time you take with each enemy

League 06-22-2008 12:23 AM

In a crew of four, I die. In a crew of 12, the highers take the damage giving me time to run. And yes, Take Cover does help, because the sailor of merit who would sail during this one time waited for everything to reload before moving on. Especially Take Cover.

Swash 06-22-2008 12:27 AM

look 12 only works if all were 30 or higher

Poison elf 06-23-2008 03:25 AM

You can do it with any amount, basically depends on method and positioning the ship.

Before jumping on the wheel after the soldiers, relax, let people get set on cannons, and the ammo they want charged to the cannon before entering the cutscene. Get frigates with the amount of gunners you have quickly as possible, forts will fire immediately after they sink.
Take cover does help.
First method using take cover working each set of forts letting take cover recharge. There is no timer period to rush through the quest. Also let take cover recharge before entering the last cut screen, just in case you need it. Fury is better than lightning, since you can shoot off three shots quickly before a recharge. If you don't have 5 points in fury, than maybe use lightning.

Second method with good cannons, you can hit ramming speed, to jump up to speed and than full sail through all the forts.

Both methods I would let things recharge before entering the last cutscene. Easiest method is to charge out away from Goliath and than blast it out of its reach, and about only way to do it solo.

Swash 06-23-2008 03:38 AM

with all do respect 3-4 people works best i once went with 10 people all lv 25 and up we were in red once the frigates died not one bridge died AND DO NOT RUSH THROUGH FORTS THEY SHOOT TWICE AS HARD U DIE LIKE THAT!!!!

panda_baby 07-11-2008 09:39 PM

I specially like ur tip "twelth kill the officers they cut u down if u dont"

Dr. Zeppers 07-14-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckler (Post 49137)
with all do respect 3-4 people works best i once went with 10 people all lv 25 and up we were in red once the frigates died not one bridge died AND DO NOT RUSH THROUGH FORTS THEY SHOOT TWICE AS HARD U DIE LIKE THAT!!!!

With all due respect, before someone knows what works best, they must experience all the possibilities with all the appropriate circumstances. Which you obviously have not.

Its awesome that you want to offer assistance/tips to new people, but please keep in mind. Because it works for you, does not mean its the BEST way. Especially to the point of contradicting players with more experience than you.

Swash 07-14-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 54177)
With all due respect, before someone knows what works best, they must experience all the possibilities with all the appropriate circumstances. Which you obviously have not.

Its awesome that you want to offer assistance/tips to new people, but please keep in mind. Because it works for you, does not mean its the BEST way. Especially to the point of contradicting players with more experience than you.

WELL SORRY i HAVE tried all possibilities of doing the boss battle and have figured out that now 5-6 ppl ( all have to have lightning ) works best dont judge a book by its cover

Sven Osymthe 07-18-2008 07:39 PM

Swashbuckler ive been using crews of 7-9 ppl and we manage to finish in green
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Swash 07-19-2008 02:59 PM

its changed now to more ppl works best ONLY if they have lightning

Jeena 07-19-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckler (Post 55476)
its changed now to more ppl works best ONLY if they have lightning

I'm pretty sure that however many players partake, whether it's 12 players ranging from levels 28-40, or 4 players 30+, that it is possible...
& really, I don't really think it's necessary to be so rude...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swashbuckler
WELL SORRY i HAVE tried all possibilities of doing the boss battle and have figured out that now 5-6 ppl ( all have to have lightning ) works best dont judge a book by its cover

Especially since I'm pretty sure you haven't tried ALL the possibilities.
Have you tried an entire crew of <30? Entire crew of 30+ not using lightening? The possibilities are endless.
As OFxZeppers mentioned, just because it worked for you, doesn't mean it's the best, & it doesn't mean it will work as well for others. Other people may have more advanced skills than you, or less advanced skills. Everyone varies, as do Boss Battle techniques.

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Swash 07-19-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeena (Post 55491)
I'm pretty sure that however many players partake, whether it's 12 players ranging from levels 28-40, or 4 players 30+, that it is possible...
& really, I don't really think it's necessary to be so rude...

Especially since I'm pretty sure you haven't tried ALL the possibilities.
Have you tried an entire crew of <30? Entire crew of 30+ not using lightening? The possibilities are endless.
As OFxZeppers mentioned, just because it worked for you, doesn't mean it's the best, & it doesn't mean it will work as well for others. Other people may have more advanced skills than you, or less advanced skills. Everyone varies, as do Boss Battle techniques.

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i've tried all # of crew members now that the boss has changed its become easier with a lot of ppl with lightning i'm just saying every time my friends go they bring 12 ppl with no lightning and me never make it past the boats if you bring three with lightning you make it to the goliath then die if you go alone you can make it to second set of forts i'm just trying to make a good guide but this one is causing fights so i request that this be closed

Dr. Zeppers 07-20-2008 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckler (Post 55503)
i've tried all # of crew members now that the boss has changed its become easier with a lot of ppl with lightning i'm just saying every time my friends go they bring 12 ppl with no lightning and me never make it past the boats if you bring three with lightning you make it to the goliath then die if you go alone you can make it to second set of forts i'm just trying to make a good guide but this one is causing fights so i request that this be closed

In regards to using lighting for the boss battle, this is pretty standard (from my perspective). Other ammo types will work, but lightning seems to be the most effective in this situation.

In regard to crew number we are back to basically what i'd said regarding "who" you crew.

Sure if you crew multiple low level pirates, with low cannon/sailing skills, its not going to benefit anyone. This is common sense.

If you crew multiple high level pirates with high level cannon/sailing skills, it makes for a very strong crew for the boss battle.

As far as whats best, etc. This is going to vary from individual to individual. Younger players may have different perspectives than older players for one, etc.

I encourage everyone to make recommendations/suggestions, offering your experiences to assist others. Considering your input as whats best for everyone is not likely to go over well.

Swash 07-20-2008 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 55542)
In regards to using lighting for the boss battle, this is pretty standard (from my perspective). Other ammo types will work, but lightning seems to be the most effective in this situation.

In regard to crew number we are back to basically what i'd said regarding "who" you crew.

Sure if you crew multiple low level pirates, with low cannon/sailing skills, its not going to benefit anyone. This is common sense.

If you crew multiple high level pirates with high level cannon/sailing skills, it makes for a very strong crew for the boss battle.

As far as whats best, etc. This is going to vary from individual to individual. Younger players may have different perspectives than older players for one, etc.

I encourage everyone to make recommendations/suggestions, offering your experiences to assist others. Considering your input as whats best for everyone is not likely to go over well.

right now i think it all depends on lv

ironrage 07-20-2008 06:13 PM

I would just like to add that I have sailed and won numerous times and been on numerous winning crews since the upgrades. I have also seen the game crash a number of times while loading the Boss Battle, each time with a full crew.

I have seen two distinct but similar strategies that have been used to win the Boss. Both of these strategies use cannons on only one side of the ship. So a crew of more then 8 is wasteful and distracting. You will have people standing around with nothing to do, so they will try and leave the ship, complain, or just talk non-stop.

Regarless of level, the crew is very important. If the crew will not listen and isn't patient, you aren't going to win. I will not go with a crew that doesn't take the time before hand to figure out at least who is to sail.

Dr. Zeppers 07-20-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ironrage (Post 55623)
I would just like to add that I have sailed and won numerous times and been on numerous winning crews since the upgrades. I have also seen the game crash a number of times while loading the Boss Battle, each time with a full crew.

I have seen two distinct but similar strategies that have been used to win the Boss. Both of these strategies use cannons on only one side of the ship. So a crew of more then 8 is wasteful and distracting. You will have people standing around with nothing to do, so they will try and leave the ship, complain, or just talk non-stop.

Regarless of level, the crew is very important. If the crew will not listen and isn't patient, you aren't going to win. I will not go with a crew that doesn't take the time before hand to figure out at least who is to sail.

Hmmm I have sailed and won numerous times and been on numerous winning crews since the upgrades. Seen it crash also (but not due to number of crew). Its true, that usually one side at a time is facing the bridges in most boss battles. It's also true that there are more than 4 cannons on each side of the ship, so being able to man more than 4 cannons on a side is definately helpful. I have also found that most people do not 'switch' sides amidst the battle. (I have found I am often the sole person making sure all cannons on either side are manned.. switching sides accordingly)

So I dont see the more than 8 being wasteful OR distracting. Not to people having fun.

I've beaten it more times with full crews than partial ones.

Its obviously a matter of preference, and again, whats best, is whats best to those participating.

Pierre La Grand 08-23-2008 01:25 AM

From experience take cover does not work on the towers at all. It does work on the Goliath and would probably work on the frigates if it didn't wear off before the cutscene was over.

Dr. Zeppers 08-23-2008 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre La Grand (Post 63758)
From experience take cover does not work on the towers at all. It does work on the Goliath and would probably work on the frigates if it didn't wear off before the cutscene was over.

Hmmm not the "common" experience i'd say having been on the number of BB's I have, and having read the number of posts about it used in the BB that I have.

If you have 3+ high level cannons on both sides, those frigates sink in seconds. Take cover not even necessary there.

Edward Edgemenace 08-23-2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 46245)
Some tips here are pretty good, ...

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Anyone care to elaborate on thier boss battle 'sailing' tactics? Im a master sailor, but always choose NOT to 'drive' as I havent really gotten comfortable with any method, and i'm usually busy blasting with cannons. :)

Did I miss it? Would you like to hear my take on it?

Dr. Zeppers 08-23-2008 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 63778)
Did I miss it? Would you like to hear my take on it?

hehe, wow, quoted a pretty old post...

One first (i was being nice).

On the second, i'd say its still somewhat true with me. What I know and used/done successfully are what ive picked up from observations on others battles ive been on.

Most frequent and seems to be most successful leaves the frigates and the first bridges mostly to the cannoneers, using take cover and moving some to avoid inbound fire.

Then as you pass the first bridge tuck ship just past last bridge as far left as you can get it, and the mountain shields alot of the ship so cannons can take out the bridges. Waiting for skills to recharge each time before you head to the next set of bridges, 3rd bridges similar, and from then firepower skills and luck :)
Goliath stay where it puts you on goliaths terms, and hit her hard and sink her fast, or hit full sail and get some distance and come back and hit her from distance on your terms. Depends alot on your crew.

As I said before, Im usually on cannons, my preferred role in BB's :)

Bartholomew Foulsteel 08-23-2008 05:40 AM

I prefer to sail (mastered also). One of the things I DON'T see a lot or see mentioned in strategies and tactics is using broadsides.

YES--Broadsides work! Line yer broadside up to the bridge and fire away! A massive broadside from a mastered sailor can wipe the bridges out quickly.

And yes, I use Take Cover, and after that wears off I use Open Fire. Both those and the broadsides make a big difference.

However you do it, have fun and good luck, mates!

Nelly Darkpaine 08-23-2008 03:12 PM

Agreed... Broadsides and take cover work. I dont use leadership for the most part... just don't need it.

I too like sailing with a full crew.. but then, I dont use the 'all one side' moves some people do for the whole Boss Battle. =)

Angel Daggerfury 08-25-2008 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 63784)
hehe, wow, quoted a pretty old post...

One first (i was being nice).

On the second, i'd say its still somewhat true with me. What I know and used/done successfully are what ive picked up from observations on others battles ive been on.

Most frequent and seems to be most successful leaves the frigates and the first bridges mostly to the cannoneers, using take cover and moving some to avoid inbound fire.

Then as you pass the first bridge tuck ship just past last bridge as far left as you can get it, and the mountain shields alot of the ship so cannons can take out the bridges. Waiting for skills to recharge each time before you head to the next set of bridges, 3rd bridges similar, and from then firepower skills and luck :)
Goliath stay where it puts you on goliaths terms, and hit her hard and sink her fast, or hit full sail and get some distance and come back and hit her from distance on your terms. Depends alot on your crew.

As I said before, Im usually on cannons, my preferred role in BB's :)

Frigs: use rear cannons, hit only the left rear frig coz the front frig is impossible to hit using the rear cannon, then go over to right & help the ppl on right side to sink the rear & front frigs (usually the rear one has already sunk by now).

Sailing part, tacking is a MUST skill if you wanna be able to dodge cannons & such. Thats how I pretty much win.
I do use Take Cover & Open Fire for all 4 of sets of bridges.
My lvl 36 with max sailing (been winning since I was lvl 30 tho) for tacking/open fire/take cover rank pts is 1/2/3...I win mostly in the green about 25-40% ship damage, record is 14%.
Last time I took my lvl 25 with lvl 20 sailing (better tacking T/OF/TC = 2/1/3), it was the best on that name so far, actually the only win so far, 19% ship damage. I do plan to max out tacking, so it would be 5/1/3, maybe I'll be able to get less than 10% damage one day lol.

Tacking & knowing how to sail is hard to describe without seeing me do it, but basically:
Going thru the 1st set of bridges, shoot 2nd's left fort & then spin/wobble/whatever the ship backwards to dodge its cannons that r shooting where u were using ur tacking skill. Then take out right fort. 3rd set of bridges, same thing: shoot left fort then right fort, dodge cannons in the meantime. 4th set: ram/full sail to dodge their explosives (or whatever it is now, I remember it shooting explosives, took my green ship to the red zone almost always if I got hit with only the first wave, it shoots regular cannons after the first wave tho).

Goliath: broadside, broadside, broadside! LOL, right after the cutscene hit left broadside & open fire & up arrow to sail forward (no full sail) & Take Cover, move around a bit while broadsiding # until Goliath sinks (but Goliath usually sinks the moment I hit Take Cover anyways) Goliath sinks pretty fast if u got good fury shooters or max thunder, for this method.
If you got just an average crew or just a bit too nervous to sit & fight Goliath next to you, hit left broadside, full sail to get ahead, open fire...blah blah, Goliath should sink by now or turn your ship & broadside # of times until it sinks.

It's easy, people who have seen me sail, try to do it themselves & they win in the yellow zone with around 60% ship damage.


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