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Bilgepump 04-21-2008 01:46 PM

Grenade Leveling Guide
 
Here is a fast way to get your grenades up to a decent level.

The basic idea is to minimize all other rep except grenades. Do NOTHING else.

When you hit level 20, you get the grenade unlock quest. The quest involves searching a LOT of barrels and crates, and sinking some ships. Clearing out the mobs so that you can search the barrels and crates will give you rep. So will sinking the ships. You don't want that.

So get a high-level friend to help you out. Let them escort you through Kingshead and PDF and occupy the Navy while you search. Let them sink the ships while you sit on the deck sipping umbrella drinks. You will almost certainly have to pay this back in the future. Do not heal them until after the fighting stops. Do not fight back if attacked.

Once the quest is complete, hit the store and get a full load of type-1 grenades.

You can't do a lot with these. You need to gain some levels fast. In particular, we want to get to level 4, when you get long volley.

Go find a fly trap. It doesn't matter where, Misty Mire on Tortuga works well because it's close to a resupply source.

Position yourself far enough away that the fly trap can't hit you. It can still spit poison, but you'll kill it long before you see yellow on your HP bar.

Throw grenades until it's dead. Wait for respawn. Repeat. If you run out of grenades, go back and get more. Do this until you're level 4 at grenade. This won't take long, maybe 10 or 15 minutes.

When you hit level 2, put one (1) point into stinkpot. When you resupply after this, fill up on these, too.

When you hit level 4, put one (1) point into long volley.

Now you're ready for the serious action.

Load up on grenades and go to Kingshead. IF YOU HAVE A WIDE-BRIMMED HAT, TAKE IT OFF FIRST. See "Notes on Aiming" below. Do not sink any ships on the way, no matter how fat and juicy they are.

At the parade ground just inside, there's that group of 1 officer and 6 veterans. They are your target. There may be other people there, see "Dealing with Other Players" below.

On the long fence, count over 7 fenceposts. Stand in front of it, and back up a couple steps. This is the sweet spot.

Wield the grenades, and select number 2, stinkpot.

Target the leftmost veteran, the one closest to the officer. You should see a faint red circle at his feet.

Use long volley to toss a grenade at him. Let fly when the bar reaches 80%. See "Notes on Aiming" below.

If you're lucky, the officer and all the veterans will come running over. Most of the time, I got all the veterans, but the officer stayed behind. Sometimes the officer and one veteran stayed behind. If more than two stay behind, throw another grenade to pull them, too. Try not to throw more than two grenades for the pull, but don't sweat it if you do. If you keep missing, try looking up or down to fine-tune your aim.

When all the soldiers reach the fence, lob grenades at them until they're dead. You should get around 250 rep per round. The levels will flow like water.

If they can hit you through the fence, back up a bit. If you get hit by your own grenades, back up a bit.

At level 6, you get Determination (faster HP regen). Toss the three skill points you have accumulated into it. Same with the one you get at level 7.

At level 8, you get the fireball grenades. Put one (1) point into that. At level 9, put the point into Determination to max it out. At 10, you get smoke bombs. Put one (1) point into it. After this, save your skills. I put 5 into Ignore Pain at level 17, but it took a while to get there.

You will have to reload eventually. Fill up on every type of grenade and sail back. Keep doing this. If you have a mule on a free account, you can park it against the back wall and use it as a go-to target. You can also group with it for the rep bonus. It is possible that someone may jump on the spot while you're gone, but that never happened to me. See "Dealing with Other Players" below.

Suggested firing order:

You get more rep with the grenades that do lower damage, like smoke bomb. The problem is that you only have 25 of those, and it's possible to shoot all of them off on a single group and not kill them.

I suggest spreading them out and using them up evenly to minimize the reload trips, like so:

Toss 1 smoke.
Toss 2 fireballs.
Toss X stinkpots, until its count matches the fireballs.
Toss explosives until dead.

You'll probably need to deviate from this after awhile, and maybe use more stinkpots and fewer explosives, or vice-versa. The idea is to be as close to empty as possible before going off to reload. Pull with the stinkpots. If you start running low on them, conserve.

You will start this at level 20, and all those soldiers will be red, and give you 35-40 rep each. They will turn green at grenade 18, and start giving 18-20 rep each. By this time, you'll be most of the way through level 22.

Sometimes, one of the soldiers will hop the fence. Go ahead and use the cutlass or dagger. Or grenade them, too.

I used this method to get from 0 to halfway through 18 in grenades in one afternoon. I plan to continue this method until grenades are level 20, or until they go grey on me, whichever comes first. By then, I'll be 23 and be able to get the PDF teleport, and will switch to PDF beach.

Update: At grenade 22, they turned grey, and the rep dropped to 8 or 9 per soldier. I was about 1000 points from level 24. If I hadn't avoided all non-grenade rep, I probably would have hit 24 while I was still grenade 21, and they probably would have greyed out then instead. So I squeezed out enough grenade rep to get an extra grenade level, instead of being about 3/4 of the way through 21.

NOTES ON AIMING

It'll take a little practice on the long volley to get it right. I noticed that the aim worked best when the target was vertically aligned with the left side of my character's head. That is, if I were to draw a line straight up from the left side of his head, it would hit the target. The horizontal aim depends on how tall your toon is. On my short one, the top of the fencepost was at ear level. On my taller one, it was chin or shoulder. Play around, you'll find what works. If you have a wide-brimmed hat, take it off. It can make it hard to see what you're aiming at.

DEALING WITH OTHER PLAYERS

This is a heavily-camped spot. There is no other place like it in the game. It is the best spot for initially leveling both grenades and staff. The rep is sweet, and wiping out that group will get you lots of gold. This is a combination that tends to bring out the worst in other players.

If someone's there, and isn't willing to share, change servers and try again. If they are willing to share, I strongly recommend that you alternate pulls instead of both blasting the same group. This will keep your rep per grenade high, and minimize the resupply trips. You can even group for the rep bonus and use each other for go-to targets when resupplying. It's also nice to have someone to talk to - it can get boring. I made a new friend this way.

If you do find a solo spot, you will almost certainly have someone come up and see if the spot is available. The polite ones will ask to share, or go elsewhere without saying anything. I'd advise sharing if possible. Karma and all that.

But sometimes you get people that just start blasting away, and won't take the hint when you tell them you don't need help. You can either stay and wait for them to run out of ammo (they tend to really stink at this and burn through the grenades real quick) or change servers. I usually change servers. It's not worth the stress of arguing with them.

You will also get low-level leeches trying to suck up some risk-free rep at your expense. Since they have to wait for you to pull, you can just tell them that you aren't going to pull until they leave, and then outwait them. Or change servers.

I had to change servers three times, I think.

TooHip 04-21-2008 02:49 PM

Well written comprehensive guide and I'm right there to give it a shot. Thanks!

Davy 04-21-2008 05:18 PM

Nice guide! My grenades are at Level 19 using a different method - mind if I post a thread with that method?

Bilgepump 04-21-2008 05:22 PM

Not at all. Go for it.

Dr. Zeppers 04-21-2008 10:31 PM

I myself was not so conservative on the other activities leading up to grenades, but once I had them I leveled up up almost exactly that way. I got the first 4 levels though nading giant crabs at driftwood, while walking backwards. 2-3 lvl20+ crabs at a shot, gets ya to lvl 4 in no time. Take a friend to driftwood so you can tp out and reload at least once.

The rest of the above I pretty much follow(ed), to the T.

I much appreciate the section on "Dealing with other players", its quite disruptive when those that would just run out and create chaos, or staffers that basically 'take over the field' by attacking the group the second they spawn.

I got to a point that i'd razz them with a few lines, and just switch servers, as the types are generally not considerate enough to do that themselves are either griefers, or some kid that doesnt even see what im typing.

Zeppers Lvl 40
http://pirates.teamofx.us

AngelOMalley 04-21-2008 11:17 PM

my new friend! great great great guide! its nice to see people helping for a change, and yes changing servers is the best thing to do when dealing with those people.

Chris 04-21-2008 11:49 PM

wonderful guide :) this will really help LOTS of people

Nate Warwrecker 04-21-2008 11:53 PM

:jack1:Nice guide it got my grenades to lvl two zero

seaturtledude 04-22-2008 12:55 AM

Great guide! In three levels, (I'm level 17 now), I'll use this guide to level up my grenades! Thanks!

Bilgepump 04-22-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelMcMalley (Post 35852)
I myself was not so conservative on the other activities leading up to grenades

Yeah, I may be being excessively paranoid on the non-grenade rep, but I'm trying to stay there as long as possible. If they stay green at rep level 24, with grenade level 25 (I think this is where it'll wind up), then it's not as critical. I'll update when I find out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelMcMalley (Post 35852)
staffers that basically 'take over the field'

I hate those guys. They were the worst. Just run out and BLAMBLAMBLAM.

There was one group of them I ran into - three guys with staffs and an entourage of low-level leechers following them around. One guy had that flame staff attack pumped so high that he was killing all the soldiers with one blast. I -know- he wasn't getting much rep for that, but they may have been after gold. I left.

Leon Sharkshot 04-23-2008 02:21 PM

Grenades, or no grenades? That is the question...
 
At the present time, I am advancing in the "Unlock Grenades" quest. I have yet to access Kingshead island, so that I may examine containers for the materials I require. :mybadki6:

In the event that I acquire the capacity to employ the use of grenades, I will resort to this guide for additional information. :bookishfj7:

I believe the present time would be the suitable time period to bring together my guild members and legitimatly complete this quest.:dancetl6::dancetl6::dancetl6:

:00001927:-Leon Sharkshot-:00001927:

Bilgepump 04-25-2008 11:36 AM

Update: At grenade 22, they turned grey, and the rep dropped to 8 or 9 per soldier. I was about 1000 points from level 24. If I hadn't avoided all non-grenade rep, I probably would have hit 24 while I was still grenade 21, and they probably would have greyed out then instead. So I squeezed out enough grenade rep to get an extra grenade level, instead of being about 3/4 of the way through 21.

seaturtledude 04-25-2008 09:50 PM

Hmm, I'm working on the quest now.. stuck on Kingshead >_<.

Sarah 04-26-2008 09:56 AM

Sticky Worthy!

I slacked on working grenades til my pirate was level 30 **bangs head on wall** but using this method i still got to lev 14 grenades in a short time. Going to be a bugger to gain rep quickly from now on, but I plan to get right on the grenades on my other pirates when the time comes.

Thanks for the guide!

Angel 04-26-2008 10:16 AM

The good thing is once you hit lvl 12 and unlock smoke, you can go play with the stumps. 25 smokes usually net you 110 reps in crew.

seaturtledude 04-26-2008 02:57 PM

Finally got my grenades, this guide is helping a lot!

Captain Fireskull 04-26-2008 03:01 PM

Thats REALLY REALLY helpful. Thanks mate.

Tokrok 04-26-2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilgepump (Post 35934)
Yeah, I may be being excessively paranoid on the non-grenade rep, but I'm trying to stay there as long as possible. If they stay green at rep level 24, with grenade level 25 (I think this is where it'll wind up), then it's not as critical. I'll update when I find out.



I hate those guys. They were the worst. Just run out and BLAMBLAMBLAM.

There was one group of them I ran into - three guys with staffs and an entourage of low-level leechers following them around. One guy had that flame staff attack pumped so high that he was killing all the soldiers with one blast. I -know- he wasn't getting much rep for that, but they may have been after gold. I left.

Yea, that gets like no rep. The only time I do that is when I come to do my grenades but since I leveled them up wrong its all messed up I get board and use my staff :D

Bilgepump 04-26-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel (Post 36464)
The good thing is once you hit lvl 12 and unlock smoke, you can go play with the stumps. 25 smokes usually net you 110 reps in crew.

Yeah, but then you're out of smokes. Unless you do the skelly thing.

Lucy 05-06-2008 01:24 PM

thanks for this, I finally got my grenades last night, that quest is the worst ever!

here is some addition information I found in a post search I thought some might find useful.

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...light=grenades

Lucy 05-08-2008 05:49 AM

what do you all recommend as far as placing the last ten points under this skill?

Tab1975 05-22-2008 05:06 PM

If you're like me and have trouble with the aiming part, I find a quick way to level up is blowing up Undead Grenadier, as they don't move. That and firing hex shots at Undead Gypsies to disable them and firing at them.

But I'm a lowly level 5. 'Nades perplex me.

Editted to say I shoulda read Lucy's link first. I felt all smart for a moment...hehe..

PirateSlayer 05-23-2008 10:56 AM

Best thing I have seen in a while!

am1974 05-23-2008 12:24 PM

I masterd grenades on my second pirate and decided on it to skip a lot of the grenades. I only have the basic explosives, flame bomb and seige charge. Then placed skill points on only these grenades and the passive points. I know you rep higher with smoke bombs but It takes more of them to kill one stump then the rest of the grenades. So in the same amount of time you can kill a few stumps with the other grenades and still rep fast. Also if you are one of those people that hate grenades or do not plan on really using them then I would put more points on the passive skills then on the grenades themselves.

danepaws 05-23-2008 01:12 PM

Thank you! I've been having a heck of a time leveling my grenades, and this will help a lot.

Wildwood 05-23-2008 08:58 PM

Nice guide, I'm working my way up the levels now.

Bilgepump 05-27-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by am1974 (Post 41829)
Also if you are one of those people that hate grenades or do not plan on really using them then I would put more points on the passive skills then on the grenades themselves.

Yeah, grenades are all about the passives for me.

That, and the 8 HP per grenade level you get.

League 05-28-2008 01:16 AM

Grenades are all about money: when they were easy to level up, I loved them more than my son (sorry Tommy!). Nowadays, they're slower, and less fun: I don't bother with Kingshead, and just go to Cutthroat. They're, like mentioned above, I go to get Gyps and Diers. Kingshead got tiresome at 24 noto, level 17 nades.

I just put one point in each of the nades with my test. My test is to have two points in each skill ya know, so there are a bunch of excess ones.

Bilgepump 05-28-2008 11:56 AM

Once they turned grey, then it's not really worth it to stay in Kingshead. I got to level 22 before that happened.

I've had good luck on PDF beach, especially when two gypsies stop right next to each other. Drain both, then grenade them for a two-fer.

Poison elf 05-29-2008 11:23 PM

Not sure why, but I am sure I never reached nearly that high a level in King's. Seems like it was like level 14, maybe up to 17 before they were grey.

The next phase I did was Gypsies, while working a little in pistol as well with hex shot each time. This gave points enough to add to take aim and sharp shooter to start working on Molusk.

Yup, back side of Padres is good for two Gypsies. While taking out Urchinfist and seebeards would set up getting two molusk at the same time. Though now you can hold more, don't count out smoke bomb, even last few 3 hits or so to kill something.

Bilgepump 05-30-2008 05:51 PM

When they greyed out, my overall rep was still only 23.

I did NOTHING but grenades from the time I got the quest. I even got my wife to sink all the ships and kill the officers guarding the crates/barrels to keep my rep down.

Kaionai 05-31-2008 10:08 PM

Im in deep trouble in this one,

Im level 39 I have mastered everything except Grenade(15) and Staff(19)

I am haveing a very difficult time finding a place to level up these two, see i didnt know about the "keep your skills at one point you gain more rep theory" until it was too late, I have tryed leveling up at Tormenta going up against brinescum and Molusk and that get's old really quick because you have sword welding fiends running around.

I tryed goin to Kingheads and everything is in the grey. Besides the sword wielding fiends.

Padre's Beach Everything is green and yellow "im picky i want to earn the highist rep possible" i like them red target

Outcast i can't really use nade's or my staff because no one there to heal me as for the stumps are a larger version of sword wielding fiend's who hit harder, and my nades are "thrown at my feet when every i try to use it against them"

Im lost i dunno what to do now....Unless disney goes back and reverts the XP gain for nades and staff i dunno what to do..(finding people to pair up with on land nowa days is hard because im being such higher level then them)

League 06-01-2008 01:17 AM

I think that the new French and Spanish enemies have given a potential solution to your problem. Just go to Cutthroat or Cangrejos, and see if the new undeads are any good eats.

Bilgepump 06-02-2008 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaionai (Post 43634)
IPadre's Beach Everything is green and yellow "im picky i want to earn the highist rep possible" i like them red target

You get the same rep for red and yellow.

Green cuts that rep in half.

Grey cuts it in half again.

Kaionai 06-02-2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilgepump (Post 43876)
You get the same rep for red and yellow.

Green cuts that rep in half.

Grey cuts it in half again.

LOL WOW, where you been? it depend's on how many one point key combinations you attack an enemy with that determines your rep.

you do not get the same rep for yellow and red kills..:laughks2:

Bilgepump 06-02-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaionai (Post 43909)
LOL WOW, where you been? it depend's on how many one point key combinations you attack an enemy with that determines your rep.

you do not get the same rep for yellow and red kills..

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or are you that snarky all the time?

The rep you get is based on both the number and type of attacks you make, and the color of the enemy (red/yellow/green/grey).

The same attacks on the same enemies will give you the same rep if the enemy is red or yellow.

When it turns green, those same attacks will give you half the rep they would have when the enemy was red or yellow.

When it turns grey, those attacks will give you half the rep it would have when it was green. And as you keep gaining skill and rep levels, the rep you get keeps going down, eventually reaching 0.

For example, when I started working the grenades on Kingshead, I got 40 rep per kill, mostly. If it took one fewer grenade, it gave 36 rep. If it took one more, it gave 44 rep. But mostly, they all died giving me 40 rep. This was constant when they were both red and yellow.

As soon as they turned green, it went to 20 rep per kill. Just as is was previously, if it took one fewer grenade, I got 18. If it took one more, I got 22. But mostly, they all died giving me 20 rep.

When they turned grey, it went to 10 rep, sometimes 9 or 11.

Now, as you can see half of 40 is 20. And half of 20 is 10.

What I was trying to do was help you realize that you don't need to limit your targets to red ones. You can use the yellow ones too, and still get the same rep that you would for the reds.

Kaionai 06-02-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilgepump (Post 43921)
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or are you that snarky all the time?

The rep you get is based on both the number and type of attacks you make, and the color of the enemy (red/yellow/green/grey).

The same attacks on the same enemies will give you the same rep if the enemy is red or yellow.

When it turns green, those same attacks will give you half the rep they would have when the enemy was red or yellow.

When it turns grey, those attacks will give you half the rep it would have when it was green. And as you keep gaining skill and rep levels, the rep you get keeps going down, eventually reaching 0.

For example, when I started working the grenades on Kingshead, I got 40 rep per kill, mostly. If it took one fewer grenade, it gave 36 rep. If it took one more, it gave 44 rep. But mostly, they all died giving me 40 rep. This was constant when they were both red and yellow.

As soon as they turned green, it went to 20 rep per kill. Just as is was previously, if it took one fewer grenade, I got 18. If it took one more, I got 22. But mostly, they all died giving me 20 rep.

When they turned grey, it went to 10 rep, sometimes 9 or 11.

Now, as you can see half of 40 is 20. And half of 20 is 10.

What I was trying to do was help you realize that you don't need to limit your targets to red ones. You can use the yellow ones too, and still get the same rep that you would for the reds.

ok chief...I don't see where geometry has play in your answer, but if you really must know I'm naturally snarky, and if you go ahead and try my method you might see a diffrence. let's for exsample: Go to Tormenta use hex shot on a Molusk and sit there and just throw dagger's at it don't click your mouse to attack it, just use # key's only and attack it, let's see how much rep you get then....(should ammount to somewhere around 100+ depending if you have crew or not...do the same for grenade's pal...same amount of rep. your theory where ever it came from must be a hell of a good one, because it sound's like you have been doing something wrong....(oh must be the fact you signed up in feburary..ya that must be it.)

Chris 06-02-2008 07:30 PM

Oh my on my new pirate i just got nades after following your guide stop buy step its awesome! wonder guide

Bilgepump 06-02-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaionai (Post 43979)
ok chief...I don't see where geometry has play in your answer, but if you really must know I'm naturally snarky, and if you go ahead and try my method you might see a diffrence. let's for exsample: Go to Tormenta use hex shot on a Molusk and sit there and just throw dagger's at it don't click your mouse to attack it, just use # key's only and attack it, let's see how much rep you get then....(should ammount to somewhere around 100+ depending if you have crew or not...do the same for grenade's pal...same amount of rep. your theory where ever it came from must be a hell of a good one, because it sound's like you have been doing something wrong....(oh must be the fact you signed up in feburary..ya that must be it.)

You misunderstand.

I am not disputing that you can get different rep from using different numbers and types of attacks. I am also not saying that you always get the same amount of rep from a mob.

What I am saying is that if you use (for example) your dagger attack on a RED mob, then use the identical dagger attack on a YELLOW mob of the same type, you will get the same amount of rep. If you then use that same dagger attack on a GREEN mob, you will get half the rep.

Do you understand now, or should I try using smaller words?

Wildwood 06-02-2008 08:59 PM

This is a great guide, I've been using it and after a few long sessions I leveled up to 13. I agree that you have to change servers, there are some real pests around when you are working on leveling with this weapon. Helping each other out if you find someone who will cooperate helps a lot, if not and they are low level free players I usually let them get killed off if one of the the Vets hops the fence (I'm evil that way).

Cloudburst 06-03-2008 03:14 AM

Problem at Kingshead... I have been leveling my nades there since last night and now the guards are all coming through the fence! What to do?

Bilgepump 06-03-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloudburst (Post 44129)
Problem at Kingshead... I have been leveling my nades there since last night and now the guards are all coming through the fence! What to do?

I noticed that if you hit the soldiers that walk back and forth along the path that they sometimes will jump the fence. I think it has to do with having too many mobs in one spot. Stick to the veterans/officer from the parade ground itself.

Cloudburst 06-03-2008 06:28 PM

That's what I have been doing. I throw my stink pot then they all come over and walk back and worth while im hittting them with the nades and then, suddenly really fast they spread out come back and go through the fence.

podbuster 06-08-2008 01:17 PM

Very nice guide, except that grenades aren't exactly my favorite weapon... meh. If I saw this at lvl 20 tho I would have used it.

League 06-10-2008 06:55 AM

As long as the grenades are easy to level up, they're my cup of tea. I really loved them after I got Long Volley...

Capt. Guster 06-23-2008 03:35 AM

Great guide...thanks...I was just about to post to see if anyone had tips...if you ever see me in the game and say hi...you've got a friend for this one!

reillysix 07-03-2008 03:46 PM

This helped a ton! Although I was not as tedious with the non-grenade rep while proceeding through the quest, I was able to level my grenades up to level 21 in just a few days before they grayed out.

I have now been on the beach of Padres fighting gypsy after gypsy, I use a few hex eater shots so they don't attack, then lob my entire arsenal of smoke grenades, then finish them off with the fire grenades, yielding 100 rep each gypsy. What's great is the shop for more grenades and hex eaters is located very close. This is slower then what Kingshead use to do at a low level, but I find this a great way to get from the point when the Vets gray out to mastery. Just a few more days on this beach and I'll master them.

Mr.LoveLocket 07-04-2008 10:13 PM

Nice guide tho my grenade is level 13 and when i hit the soldiers it gives me 1-5 rep anyone know why?

reillysix 07-05-2008 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.LoveLocket (Post 52000)
Nice guide tho my grenade is level 13 and when i hit the soldiers it gives me 1-5 rep anyone know why?

That would be because of your notoriety is too high. As I can see in your signature, you have a notoriety of 34, which is going to make the veterans on Kingshead give very little rep.

TDSChristy 07-26-2008 07:37 PM

Thanks for taking the time to create this guide. I am so glad I was told about it right after I got my grenades. I followed it ( for my pirate it was 8 posts over and 8 steps back, far left Vet head lined up just under my left shoulder- that was my sweet spot -) and got to level 20 in no time. Huzzahs for Bilgepump!:buds:

Dr. Zeppers 07-26-2008 07:46 PM

This has been pretty popular/useful.. I think i'll sticky it ;)

Done!

Sarah 07-26-2008 08:59 PM

Thanks for the sticky Zep ;)

and tandy tandy tandy....Take Care of that one eye. LOL (Grats on lev 20, that was fast)

sammyh 08-17-2008 03:11 PM

good guide. yet its near impossible to do it now with the unlimited weekend... when i got there i was the only one there but as soon as i got behind the fence about 37 noobs came bursting through the fence and attacking everything i was trying to kill. and, well, this happened on EVEERY SINGLE SERVER. i will try this when the weekend clears up.

Mr.LoveLocket 08-17-2008 04:25 PM

ur so right! ^^ my nades need work and when i reached kingshead boom! i saw about 12 people using explosives. There was only one server i could use which was guyago and man i was there for 2 minutes and people starting coming [annoyed]

Dr. Zeppers 08-17-2008 04:26 PM

I am lucky being on the west coast. When its late for me, its wee hours of the morning for everyone else. I always find areas to level. :)

sammyh 08-17-2008 07:28 PM

lol dang im on the east coast. lol.
EDIT: wow lol was this my 600th post? WOOT!

Silver Beard 08-17-2008 10:09 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I just got my 'Nades so i'll be trying it out. :laughks2:

sammyh 08-18-2008 11:47 AM

congrats on the nades silver! lol they are my favorite weapon. i reccomend going to theives den and bombing the vampire bats there until lvl 4 with them nades. then go to kingshead.

Davil 09-05-2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 62519)
I am lucky being on the west coast. When its late for me, its wee hours of the morning for everyone else. I always find areas to level. :)

Haha you and me both Zep,time difference. ONe minute its your friends,next ur worst enemy. Thanks Alot Benjamin Franklin!

Nautical Nattie 09-07-2008 05:14 PM

It took me about 5 sailing trips to find an empty Kingshead so i can finally start leveling the grenades on my new pirate. I wonder how long it will stay quiet though :( Had a few pests stealing rep and they were level 29, they should know not to bug and steal rep from someone leveling grenades. Thank you for putting in the time to write this guide, very detailed :) I'm making sure i level up grenades before i hit 40 like i did on my first pirate, what a nightmare for rep...

Bill Ironshot 09-16-2008 12:42 PM

I just got my level 20 notoriety. Where do you have to go to begin the grenade quest?

Captain Seaford 09-16-2008 09:36 PM

Wow, thats a really good guide. I get very low rep, even on a level forty. I get anywhere between 20-50 (50 if im lucky!)

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Originally Posted by Bill Ironshot (Post 70034)
I just got my level 20 notoriety. Where do you have to go to begin the grenade quest?

Wherever the ray of light tells you to go...

Bill Ironshot 09-16-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Seaford (Post 70152)
Wherever the ray of light tells you to go...

I meant, where do I go to receive my first objective of the quest, so I can track the ray of light...

Mr.LoveLocket 09-16-2008 11:02 PM

You have a nice guide but i think it needs some updates.
Now that fire causes more damage you can't even use it
to get good rep. You would need alot of smoke.

Yeah you must visit jack sparrow.

Nautical Nattie 09-17-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Ironshot (Post 70157)
I meant, where do I go to receive my first objective of the quest, so I can track the ray of light...

Once you hit Notoriety 20 you should get a quest to visit Jack Sparrow to unlock the grenades i think, check your journal and track it there. After that you're told you look in MANY crates at Kingshead and other forts.

Angel Daggerfury 09-25-2008 04:57 AM

This was super helpful when I was on Kinghead. My new character just got from lvl 10 - lvl 22 nades at 12230/13600 pts into Notoriety Lvl 23. I thought I was gonna be stuck at level 21 nades hitting Not.level 24 coz I ended up going to sink the EITC ship for coal....thought it was gonna be easy....NOT, it was the 10th EITC ship I sunk that got the coal!! And I ended up having to heal my friend who was my bodyguard thru Kinghead, so that was more pts added lol...but somehow I made it thru. Yay!

When they went green leveled to me, I tried 5 stinkpots, 10 smokebombs, x-firebombs until the KH vets died. I know thats a lot of smokebombs, but when I got to lvl 17, I brought the bag/barrel thing that lets u carry 40 of them. At green leveled, they were giving me 40 rep each kill. At grey leveled, using the same method, I got 20 rep.

As for dealing with other players that come...well some came, saw me, & teleported to a different server. Others came & started throwing nades right after I throw my stinkpot to draw them close.

So what do I do? I whip out my Siege Charge that I threw 5 pts into, & threw them at the Vets...hahaha the Vets die after 2 or 3 of them, before any of the rep stealers can actually successfully do any damage. And just like magic, they all leave when they see that they can't get any rep since I'm using Seige hahaha.

Edit: LOL made the daily leaderboard for Enemies Defeated, #17 with 1374 kills using mostly nades. I did kill a couple with dagger tho, but it was only like 5.

Edit (again): Yay I finally mastered my nades, I was about 6300 pts of the 16100 into lvl 25 notoriety.

combatlizzy 09-25-2008 03:58 PM

Lizzy will be 300 b4 she masters nades...Never make a professional Baseball team that's for sure...Notoriety 36 but sad to say nades are only 8...oops! Dont use them becuz she cant aim them...Embarassin but true...Have to spend alot of time at KH in the near future...Prolly the only pirate that ever died from concussion syndrome from throwin nades at navy...ROLF

Cannonfury 09-25-2008 05:27 PM

Mine are lvl 22. I hope to max them this double rep weekend.

Stormhawk 09-25-2008 10:14 PM

Great guide thanks!:)

Samantha Anderson 09-28-2008 12:27 AM

Has anyone else noticed that the level 10 Smoke unlock is now level 12? so now what? lol

James tthe lighthearted 10-04-2008 07:47 AM

I'm working on my second pirate, and I remember what a pain it was on my first pirate, James Lockpaine, to get maxed grenades. The entire way through th game I decided to keep all my weps at the same level, but my friends persisted I knocked grenades out of the way. So when I got my weapons all to level 20, I just maxed out my grenades.

Until today, I have never seen this guide, and I just finished maxing my grenades last night on my level 26 (was level 25.5 at the time) and I did it almost the exact same way.

This works people, give it a shot!

Nack 01-27-2009 12:31 AM

ive found now wat u can do is go to the backside of padres and fight raider boss but instead of walking up to him u go close enough he will pull out sword and use a combo of rapidly pressing ctrl and clicking the ammo u use (fire, smoke, and any other one of that effect like stink pot) (DONT USE EXPLOSIVE OR SEIGE WHATEVER U DO!!!) and enjoy ur rep (also, well the rapid combo plz dont use long volley it wont work)


:psmiley35:

mlratto 02-10-2009 06:02 PM

wat u can do is go to the backside of padres and fight raider boss

YES! this is the method i've used from level 20 - 23 (current). I decided to try to see if i could get from level 22 to 23 in one day with nades so i killed deakheart 47 times yesterday to do it! whatta grind!...boring yes, but felt good when i got there.

so, i only have to kill him 103 more time to master nades!

JasonBladesmythe 02-11-2009 09:15 PM

well went to kingshead to level grenades and discovered something disturbing. no matter where i was standing i could not get the veterans to NOT cross the fence and come at me.

it appears to me that they have fixed this to where the veterans can (depending how close you are to the end of the fence) either run around the fence and come after you or just walk right thru the fence and come after you.

either way unless there is something bad wrong with my account, it seems that kingshead is no longer the worry free rep/gold machine it once was.

any one else notice this?

mlratto 02-11-2009 09:25 PM

re: kingshead...i got around this by lining up the veterans between my pirate and the main entrance. stand back just a bit and lob a grenade into the center of them. then start backing up and lob another. you can usually get two in before they start hitting you. continue to back up and try to aim at their chests until they've been eliminated.

in the early stages of leveling my health got pretty low and i needed to occasionally use a tonic but it's a good method for earning lots of rep...if you don't mind flirting with dying.

CaptainGreenGene 02-11-2009 09:32 PM

Wrong spot
 
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Originally Posted by JasonBladesmythe (Post 115894)
well went to kingshead to level grenades and discovered something disturbing. no matter where i was standing i could not get the veterans to NOT cross the fence and come at me.

it appears to me that they have fixed this to where the veterans can (depending how close you are to the end of the fence) either run around the fence and come after you or just walk right thru the fence and come after you.

either way unless there is something bad wrong with my account, it seems that kingshead is no longer the worry free rep/gold machine it once was.

any one else notice this?

The fence isn't broken
Line up behind the 7th post in the long row of fence and take 5 steps back, then throw into the mob, they will run at the fence and be stuck between the 7th and 8th post of the fence. This fails 1 out of 20 times but its better then standing out in the open. I managed to get my nades from lvl 1 to 20 in one afternoon standing in that spot with very little trouble. Thanks to the guild mate who stayed on Kingshead so I could TP back and forth for ammo. Thanks also to the very nice players who I shared the field with that day, I showed them where to stand and we had a very fine crew going for a while making crew reps a great addition. The gold is great there too!

JasonBladesmythe 02-11-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainGreenGene (Post 115899)
The fence isn't broken
Line up behind the 7th post in the long row of fence and take 5 steps back, then throw into the mob, they will run at the fence and be stuck between the 7th and 8th post of the fence. This fails 1 out of 20 times but its better then standing out in the open. I managed to get my nades from lvl 1 to 20 in one afternoon standing in that spot with very little trouble. Thanks to the guild mate who stayed on Kingshead so I could TP back and forth for ammo. Thanks also to the very nice players who I shared the field with that day, I showed them where to stand and we had a very fine crew going for a while making crew reps a great addition. The gold is great there too!


hmm lemme say this a different way. i went all up and down the fence trying everywhere including the 7th post and no luck, they still ran thru. i will try again when i get off work later tonight.

i figured that it wasnt a fix, more like an isolated bug or something.

like i said, i tried multiple locations, varying distances from the fence, pretty much everything and they either ran around the fence (this happens from about the 4th/5th pole to the first pole) or thru it.

ill try again tonight and ensure that im not gravely mistaken and didnt try the 7th pole last night.

Edward Edgemenace 02-11-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mlratto (Post 115897)
re: kingshead...i got around this by lining up the veterans between my pirate and the main entrance. stand back just a bit and lob a grenade into the center of them. then start backing up and lob another. you can usually get two in before they start hitting you. continue to back up and try to aim at their chests until they've been eliminated.

in the early stages of leveling my health got pretty low and i needed to occasionally use a tonic but it's a good method for earning lots of rep...if you don't mind flirting with dying.

Maybe I can learn something new here...how do you aim at their chests? I've only ever seen foot-circles with grenades. (Probably why I consider them BY FAR the hardest weapon in the game - no aiming circle similar to pistol. Not even a fuzzy circle - just foot circles.)

Sven Niscadae 02-12-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 115908)
Maybe I can learn something new here...how do you aim at their chests? I've only ever seen foot-circles with grenades. (Probably why I consider them BY FAR the hardest weapon in the game - no aiming circle similar to pistol. Not even a fuzzy circle - just foot circles.)

It's all in the long volley skill and using mouse-look. Usually I can aim and certain parts of the enemy (legs, chest, or head) by charging up the long volley and aiming the shot with the right mouse button. A fully charged long volley should pretty much go in a somewhat straighter line than a giant lobbing arc. Most times I don't even need it to be full, maybe 3/4. Aim your throw more downward (camera shows more ground than sky). If you get the angle correct, you'll hit the right spot on their body.

Most of the time I can predict my trajectory and hit them anywhere I want to on the first try at any distance just as long as I'm in range. You have to visualize where you think it will land. I may have spent a good bit of time just testing it out and seeing how different terrain, charging, etc affected it.

I think grenades are one of the most interesting weapons we have. More planning involved as it's not a point and click weapon like the pistol. I don't even mind how long it takes to level (since it damages you with splash damage up close). It's meant to be a ranged weapon and I admire its uniqueness. Or I may just like it when things to boom.

Edward Edgemenace 02-12-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven Niscadae (Post 116085)
...Or I may just like it when things go boom.

Aye, I hear ya. OK, so the estimating/visualizing stuff is what I've done for a long time...I thought you meant at a different graphics setting, you had cross-hairs or an aiming circle or something. Irks me, that only the foot circles can be used for aiming grenades.

Juliana Maria 02-12-2009 11:54 PM

So overall... where would you say the BEST place to level your grenades? My pirate is lvl 40 and I'm currently at lvl 15 for the grendades.. I went to Kingshead but they are all grey.. Is there a spot that has a couple high levels and a place to either reload or heal nearby? I can't seem to think of a spot, maybe somebody else can help me out lol

Edward Edgemenace 02-13-2009 12:14 AM

Padres Beach has bosses and an ammo shop. In a pinch, the bartender will heal you (if you can get inside the bar in time.)

Squidshot 02-15-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonBladesmythe (Post 115902)
hmm lemme say this a different way. i went all up and down the fence trying everywhere including the 7th post and no luck, they still ran thru. i will try again when i get off work later tonight.

i figured that it wasnt a fix, more like an isolated bug or something.

like i said, i tried multiple locations, varying distances from the fence, pretty much everything and they either ran around the fence (this happens from about the 4th/5th pole to the first pole) or thru it.

ill try again tonight and ensure that im not gravely mistaken and didnt try the 7th pole last night.


I decided to level my grenades up to at least 17 (they were at 10 with notoriety at 28) and have been hitting Kingshead over the last few days. I've been using the 6th post (hadn't read this post in a long while). They've been graciously staying on their side of the fence. The only times I've seen problems with this is when I try to bring other soldiers in; occasionally they won't be as courteous and will hop the fence.

MacIronhawk 02-17-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 116128)
Padres Beach has bosses and an ammo shop. In a pinch, the bartender will heal you (if you can get inside the bar in time.)

Only problem for me is when I get there enemies only give me about five rep. Looks like I'm stuck in tormenta.

Poison elf 02-17-2009 06:35 AM

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The fast and dirty.


OK here is a screen shot, I used the fifth post. I never aim at their feet, I get the circle on the closest soldier. Then I move down and to the right between soldiers until the green circle is gone. I wind up about 3/4 the way, and let it go - stink bomb, so it hits all. Then I immediately switch to explosive, and green circle the officer. After practice you can hit him, any case you aggro him when throwing.

Hitting any of the other soldiers on the path usually breaks the group and they come through the fence. Use fire near the end of their health, so you get use of the grenades, but doesn't have time to do a lot of burning damage.

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Hearing about outcast working again that is a place many like to go next, hiding in the rock hitting stumps.

Really, at this point grenades should be used with all other missile combos and worked together on Darkhart or something. Multiple weapon rep, max for each one.

If racing through the character like I did on this one through all the quests, this is like day 4. One more level to padres quest.

All you wanted to know for grenades. UGH, guess I could throw in the big alligator in Tortuga swamp, is glitched to get grenades to long volley.

Kat Five Knives 03-25-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 116128)
Padres Beach has bosses and an ammo shop. In a pinch, the bartender will heal you (if you can get inside the bar in time.)

Didn't know about the bartender -- thx!

Cannonfury 05-18-2009 04:51 PM

Great guide, good job! Im leveling nades right now on KH :)

CarribeanThunder 05-25-2009 02:48 AM

Don't you just hate it when low level people start whacking their swords without asking, i usually just stop throwing grenades and wait for the low level's target to engage on him, if he sweeps, they will all eventually gang up on him lol
Didnt the pirates online guys say you needed to be paid to get into kingshead? ive seen non payers in Kingshead O.o

Rannulf 06-14-2009 10:08 AM

Well three trips ina row to kingshead and they get through the fence evereytime what gives? Now I have to get max tonics as well as grenades! Rats:degen:

Sarah 06-14-2009 10:49 AM

Hitting any of the other soldiers on the path breaks the group and they come through the fence. Stick to the group of seven on the parade ground and 99% of the time, they stay on the other side of the fence.

CaptainGreenGene 06-14-2009 12:54 PM

Catacombs
 
Go to the catacombs and walk 3/4 of the way down the stairs. While standing on the stairs turn left and throw at the raiders and soldiers on the ground. The raiders get glitched and don't attack and the soldiers get stuck so they can't reach you. Yields fair reps and is safe. If you get in trouble just run back up the stairs and out of the catacombs. GL

John Walker 06-14-2009 10:59 PM

I mastered nades a long time ago, it's easy if you focus only on grenades and nothing else, it's all a mind thing, you just have to want it.

Shnoodell 06-15-2009 01:26 AM

nice guide. only time i have ever gotten to 20 was during double rep when i did that at level 20 at kingshead lol..i refuse to get them any farther than 20 lol

CYblade 07-09-2009 02:56 PM

I must be one of the rare pirates that love nades! xD
Yes, I can truly say that after taking forever to master them with my first pirate at Noto 36, you'd figured I'd omit nading forever? It was surely painful but ye learn from your mistakes!!! To say the least, I made sure that nades was always the first to be mastered on all my other pirates. I would definitely encourage to put your blinders on and not worry about anything else after you complete your nades quest and just get it done quick.

I've gotten sweet reps on KH mob specially using stink bombs, switching to smoke bombs until they're all used up, and then finish with whatever arsenal I have left. I've mastered nades with pirate #2 at Noto 25-26 and #3 probably at Noto 24?

Once Mastered I do use these rocks to play "bowling" @ Kh or Pirate "Dodge Ball"!

gingeeann 09-09-2009 03:35 PM

I was in a crew last night and a pirate was trying to recruit a friend to his guild with a promise of a "secret" way to throw grenades really fast. I like grenades and had to try to figure out what he meant. I did. Secret no more. To throw grenades faster keep hiting ctrl then any number to change grenade type and repeat. It is like rapid reload. Just vary the grenade types. I used ctrl, then 1, ctrl then 2, ctrl then 3 etc. Did not use 5 seige chaarge much. The grenades just pop out of your hand. Tried this with my level 42 this morning, I am level 43 now.

Kid Heartbreaker 09-09-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gingeeann (Post 165153)
To throw grenades faster keep hiting ctrl then any number to change grenade type and repeat. It is like rapid reload. Just vary the grenade types. The grenades just pop out of your hand.

This also works with the Left Mouse Button and the ammo Number key. In fact, once you get the timming down you can throw the same ammo type and not have to change Numbers unless you want to.

Pirate_Cat 09-09-2009 05:28 PM

Actually, if you throw the same ammo it goes slower than it does with using all the different ammo. But it is a little faster to throw the same ammo with that method, than it is to just throw without any tricks.

Talk about confusing sentences.

Bonnylass64 10-28-2009 04:07 PM

I just wanted to say thanks for the helpful info. I went to Kingshead and leveled up my grenades fairly quickly. Thanks :grin:

Bladehawk 12-17-2009 01:28 AM

O_o lots of words! So far im lvl 10 grenade

My2Cents 06-15-2010 09:06 AM

Wow, that was great. I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into that guide!!! Now I want my grenades even more!!! (7 more levels) Oh well, I'll just have to wait. Great guide. Can I call you Grenade Guy? Haha just kidding. :skull:


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