This game is NOT kid-friendly...
 

Listen up, Disney: a computerized spell checker is no substitute for a human brain. Any 13-year-old kid could tell you that. Stop patting youselves on the back for creating a kid-safe environment when you haven't. It's NOT a safe place for kids, even if the parents are there watching them. Another pirate said something suggestive to my daughter in Spanish the other day. The spell checker didn't do anything to stop that. Disney, drop the pretense. You're not protecting our children when you let pirates get away with some of the names they've chosen, or allowing misspelled obscenities. Either ENFORCE your own rules, or loosen them up a little so we can actually talk to each other.

(I can't stand hypocrisy, can you tell?)

Guess this could be an opposite to the thread I just posted on about 18+ servers lol. Make 18 and under servers for kids ONLY, and 18+ for adults ONLY! I would be willing to bet more of the people in the 18 under servers get banned more often...

I haven't seen that many questionable names getting through the process, but I definitely have seen enough to see that there is a lot of inconsistency in the name approval process. Personally, I'd love to have a pirate named "Wu Wokou" (essentially, Pirate Wu), but I know that would violate that name rules for using non-english words. It isn't just the names that use double entendre because you can find that in a lot of places; for example, the Looney Tunes character Pepe Le Pew regularly used double entendre but it was often so well disguised that even adults sometimes don't get the implication of what he's said.

Lastly, I know people dislike geometry, but why is poor [decided to remove the name, indicating the 4th given example] getting lumped in with the others? There is even a firm nautical connection with navigators using circumferences.

EDIT: Personally, I wish they'd firm up on that not allowing people to use honorifics and titles in their names too.

Yeah, the naming rules are violated so often they might as well not be there.

One word: Amen.
Disney does need to loosen up a little bit, and let people actually use creative names. Sometimes when I would get in an arugment with someone, I'm always certain that I will get suspened, but I don't. Disney needs to stop thinking about just protecting kids but let them have fun. It's a MMOG for God's sake!

What does that do? Kids can lie and say they are 18+. I say add the option like in RuneScape(yea they do have some good safety rules but overall 7.5/10 on their game safety..) a Public chat option. Public chat ON/FRIENDS/OFF! Private chat: ON/FRIENDS/OFF. Clan/guild chat ON/FRIENDS/OFF.

I myself am sad to admit it but I have lied just to play a few games. No not real bad games just when I was younger I lied and said I was 13-15 to play some good games that you really dont need that age to play. The best thing to do.. is DEAL WITH IT. OR save the safest game ever about to close on May 21st.. Disney's Virtual Magic Kingdom. Yea.. it's safe.. and it's from Disney. I recomend it for anyone up to 15.. wait nevermind I take that back.. I know multiple adults who play. :)

I don't think 18+ servers really accomplishes anything. To start with, I think the overlap for the range of behaviors for females ~13-23 & males ~15-25 is pretty much coterminous.

Plus, the business reality would dictate that server age statuses would reflect the over demographic of players. So, even though fewer "adults" would present truly problem behaviors, there would be fewer 18+ servers and the number of incidences per session wouldn't really change enough to make it worth the enforcement hassle.

Thank you for the word of the day :) Actually had to look that one up, LOL

I have seen plenty sexual innuendos and even have a friend who takes pride in gettin them on their new pirates. You would be amazed on the things that pass....

There are a few names that can be constructed with their built-in name generator that have innuendo aplenty; although, I'd prefer not to spell out which ones, lest those names begin to proliferate.

1. are u with disney in creating a 100% kid friendly game or are u with makign the game a bit losser

I agree Angel. Disney needs to hire more ethical animators who will NOT put sexual items on their animated features posters, DVD covers, etc. They may think they are being funny, but it is very sad.

Not to be rude but I don't think that anyone under 18 should really have a say if there is ever going to be an adult server. If you've lied about your age than you are the ones ruining the game for all of us!

I get ticked off about that arrr thing, some of my friends are idiots so they can't comprehend,"Turn of the arrr plus sign you stupid arrr!" Think they could have come up with something better than arrr? I would have used the star thing like on runescape. Stupid *****... lol

Another thing POTCO could learn from runescape, not that I like or play runescape anymore, but really, Unlimited only servers would be freaking awsome! Very helpful, no more level 1s lagging Tortuga, or no more Light Sloops attacking anything that I have attracted. I actually lost a Man O War in Bonaam to like five Light Sloops, and I hate training where they gang up on high leveled thigns that I attack, stealing my rep it very annoying.

I don't care which they do, I just wish they'd pick one and stick with it. I can play a kid game where we have to watch our language, and I can play an adult game where anything goes. But I'm seriously confused by Pirates: which one is it?!

I think I know the answer to that one, but it isn't going to be what you'd want to hear. Personally, I think if they were ever going target adult gamers more specifically, then they would have launched the game as story/character rights that had been licensed to one of their game-making subsidiary companies (e.g. VR Studios presents Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean, putting the game makers out front).

The more they associated the game with the parent company's brand identity, the more likely it became that this game would be "imagineered" as one size fits all.

Again, just as a personal observation, I think the release of this game was really just an attempted power-grab of some of the market share of the increasingly mainstreaming trends for MMOGs. To be honest, I think there was a dearth of pirate-themed games in that marketplace, however, I also think that one of the reasons that Disney launched so unexpectedly, was that they were concerned that they would lose ground to other pirate-themed games entering the marketplace around that time. So, as long as the advertising revenues are as expected, then I wouldn't expect Disney to re-target the game to another audience demographic.

Now - why would I bring an Update Portion of a thread here to this discussion? Ah - wait and see... :)

Yes, I'm annoyed about the chat restrictions (Espically the Local Chat and players not seeing anything you type!). Yes, I understand it is Disney and why they have such restrictions (my little one I would not want to see direct foul language - she knows the words, and she knows to hold her tongue on using them).

So when the idea of 'Adult' servers came up my first thoughs (posted earlier) would be the overhead of actual matenance - but - if they can make a "Seperate Welcome World" for beginner players - the first obstacle is already passed... the ability to actually create the "Adult Worlds" would just be a bit of extra coding.

Though I still don't think gettting Adult Servers will ever fly (though I support this motion), for many other reasons listed here (proof of age, more staff requirements for monitoring, bunch listed in the thread) - the concept of the "world" itself now is within reach...

Just thought I throw that tidbit in for the day :)

I don't think it's just a matter of knowing the words themselves. I know the words, and in the right situation I am perfectly happy to unleash them in streams that would make sailors and truckers blush; however, I don't think that contributes anything to the aesthetic of a persistent online world. It really just opens up local chat to young people learning to use the words unsupervised and in their proper contexts for the first time, and also people who only use an extremely limited vocabulary on a regular basis; I can't see either type of local chat increasing the enjoyment of the game for anyone else.

Personally, I could accept it just fine, but I would want to switch the normal condition to all local, non-speed chat being turned off, and manually switched on only for people whose text I want to see. I don't mind swearing, but I don't want to be treated to a continuous "low-brow serenade."

Amen. Disney needs to look at it from others point of view, not just from their point of view as being an all mighty admin

These are not valid choices.

Most games on the internet/pc market are not 100% kid friendly, and have warning labels regarding content, and gee most parents by them for thier kids anyways. Despite that, 100% kid friendly games are the loser games I see selling on the bargin bin at the computer store for $5-$10.

Im for Disney creating a 100% Pirates of the Carribean game, that is fun for all ages.

If they focus only on kids, it will be a loser. Besides, most kids arent PAYING For the game/service anyways. How many of ya'll save thier paper route money, or lawn mowing money, etc to pay for POTCO? Anyone?

Zeppers lvl40
http://pirates.teamofx.us

On the PotCO homepage, you'll see the following ESRB warning: "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". And if you follow the link Disney provides to the ESRB website, it explains that "This notice warns those who intend to play the game online about possible exposure to chat (text, audio, video) or other types of user-generated content (e.g., maps, skins) that have not been considered in the ESRB rating assignment".

With that published warning, I don't see how you accuse Disney of hypocrisy or putting up a pretense. In fact, hypocrisy would be to complain about Disney not protecting kids, then encouraging people to "flood the Caribbean with misspelled obscenities and double entendres". And if you're being sarcastic about that, why did you list a bunch of examples?

No system is perfect, and Disney hasn't claimed that theirs is perfect. There will always be people who try to push the filters to the limit. My suggestion: instead of complaining about it on a message board, report the players who act inappropriately. Click on them, then click the "Report" button. Simple enough. Everybody needs to do their part to keep the game as kid-safe as possible.

One thing I'd like to note. I understand everyone is upset, but let's just try to keep those filter bypassing names out of this site. I know we're a bit easy on what words we can and cannot say on here, but let's not think of every name in the book to post.
Keep in mind that we do have kids on this site as well.
I just don't want it to get too messy on here. I'd rather not have to edit every post. ;)

But I do agree, they're not doing so great with the name filter.

Let me simplify my question, then:
why does Disney let things get through, like pirate names and guild names, when I would get suspended for saying the same things?

I agree 1,000,000% with this. Disney doesn't need Computers vs. Brains, they need Brains vs. Brains...get it Big D(Disney)? Disney needs to put people in those monitoring chairs and really do something about it instead of sitting back and letting people break down the "Rated E 10+" barriers. There's my two cents. (Yes, I know about the "Game Experience May Change In Online Play", I play Xbox LIVE enough to know that...lol)

No offence to anybody, just speaking me even-thought-i'm-a-teenager-i'm-too-young-to-read-or-type-that mind.

If you lie about your age online its braking a binding contract and you can be sued if they ever find out when you check off the box that says i agree its like signing a contract saying you read the rules and everything you put in the registration is 100% true including your age

i dont like it when people lie about there age because they ruin everything for everyone and its obvuis there not that age bacouse of how they act. i hope they get caught when they lie about there age on any website.

i persinaly can join any website play any game because im 18 so i dont care which way they go whith this whole parental stuff , but i hope they have a 18 and up server and people dont lie about there age, 18 and up server would be good because we can have mature conversations with out weird coments or questions

The most aggrevating thing about the spell checker is the numbers, like when me and my friends are talking about skills and lvls and you cant type 2000 it makes no sense at all.

LOL, OK, so they lie about their age and can be sued....for what, their legos? Oh better yet, lets sue for their extensive collection of Hot wheels!!! Then again kids these days have better toys then us when we were younger lol.

It is likely due to automated filters scanning 1000's of chat logs each day gets false positives. Guild name/Pirate name review I believe is a little less automated, with some although perhaps limited, human review/intervention/approval.

As for the what do you sue the kids for...
Where are the parents that are supposed to be monitoring this childs internet activity?
Its not the internets job, the parents are ultmately responsible, to what degree, the legal system would have to evaluate the situation accordingly.


Zeppers lvl 40 - All mastered but lvl 21 cannons
Groggy McJones lvl 26 - All weapons quest/tp quest finished - avoiding story quest
http://pirates.teamofx.us

Oh I agree, however you know as well as I do that many many children have free reign of the internet much less things that happen on it. I mean maybe if parents would have more of a control on what their children do and who they talk to on the net, we wouldnt have as many "lets meet" internet predators having their way with our kids.

Yes alot of families are single parent families, or just too busy to watch every move with their kids. that one day when your kid dont come home and you have to take off time from work, contact the local authorities and start a missing child search, stressing to the max because "lollipop kid" decided it "was time to meet". these are things to have to worry about when you give your child free reign.

This is what Disney hopes to stop. However all chat cant be monitored. As a matter of fact I was shocked to see what came through on local chat yesterday. Some basic lvl 6 pirate was poppin off obscenities and basically told me to F-off and go to He** when i told him chat like that is not allowed and enjoy 3 days vacation as I reported him. People like that get away with it yet "i need a beer" gets you suspended?!?

Forgive me if this is jumbled, I'm tired and my pup woke me up for potty after 2 hrs sleep......back to bed for me.