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Thrawn33 04-14-2008 10:03 PM

Thrawn's Monday Poll: Tormentia-ing newbies
 
Hi all, figured I'd get a feel for the way the community feels about things by posting hypothetical questions each week.


The Situation:
You are a higher level player (level 30+) soloing in Tormentia cave. While finishing off your latest prey, a lower mild-level character runs toward you being chased by a Seabeard. Obviously he's running for his life.

The Question:
(choose one)
Are you most likely to.........?

A) Heal him, and kill nasty Seabeard. Then offer to crew with him to keep him safe.

B) Heal him, and kill the Seabeard, but the newbie is on his own.

C) Just Heal Him, you did your good deed

D) Kill the Seabeard, not caring about the poor little newbie's fate.

E) Not get involved, Seabeards are dangerous!

F) Attune the newbie, heal him, tell him you'll help him while he fights the beastie, then do nothing as the newbie is Stunned and Bladestormed straight to the Locker! That ought to teach him to stay out of Tormentia.

Enjoy!

Shadow Cat 04-14-2008 10:28 PM

I'd choose B... I'm nice but not that nice LOL

Maximvs 04-14-2008 10:36 PM

Oh - i'm gonna get in trouble for answering this - I've been getting slapped all day! LOL

I choose D - with a note! I WOULD choose B - but newbies don't know usually that when under attack they should run to you first - so you can 'tune' then then the Seabeard behind them - then they keep running while you heal - attack at the same time :)

In most cases though, they don't slow down so the best you can do for them is D - get lucky to 'tune' the Seabeard' then just attack him and hope he dies before the newbie does....

Some though deserve F... :)

I HOPE this doesn't get me any grief! Got enough for today! :)

Dr. Zeppers 04-14-2008 10:38 PM

Depends to me on just how mild/low level this other pirate is.

If hes strong enough to allow me to heal him, and have a chance at killing the Seabeard, then i'd go B. Heal the pirate, and kill the seabeard (presuming im helping him kill the seabeard at this point).

If hes weak, running around so I cant tag him to heal him, and not going to make it anyways... I just settle for D. (at least after the Seabeard stopped running around..)

As for E, wheres your sense of adventure!!!

Never F, id rather just watch him run...

Zeppers Lvl 38
http://pirates.teamofx.us

Eustace the Monk 04-14-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrawn33 (Post 34854)
F) Attune the newbie, heal him, tell him you'll help him while he fights the beastie, then do nothing as the newbie is Stunned and Bladestormed straight to the Locker! That ought to teach him to stay out of Tormentia.

My Vote!!! J/K I would heal through the duration while he fights Seabeard. I saved him, now it's his duty to TP out of there while he can or ask for help. So, I guess C would be my real choice.

Loot Hard!

The Shark 04-15-2008 02:21 PM

I would probably just feel sorry for the lil guy and heal him. Sea beard is a tough bugga and has beaten me to a pulp on many occasion. The only problem with helping people is that suddenly you are their best friend and they follow you like a lost puppy. I don't know how it happened but one time a level 2 managed to get on my boat though that scurvy dog was neither on my friends list nor in my guild. Glitch perhaps. Well (and I can't believe I am admitting to this but) I marooned him on a deserted island. Hhhmmmm...does that make me a bad pirate? Do pirates have morals other than whats in The Code?

Thrawn33 04-15-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Shark (Post 35015)
I would probably just feel sorry for the lil guy and heal him. Sea beard is a tough bugga and has beaten me to a pulp on many occasion. The only problem with helping people is that suddenly you are their best friend and they follow you like a lost puppy. I don't know how it happened but one time a level 2 managed to get on my boat though that scurvy dog was neither on my friends list nor in my guild. Glitch perhaps. Well (and I can't believe I am admitting to this but) I marooned him on a deserted island. Hhhmmmm...does that make me a bad pirate? Do pirates have morals other than whats in The Code?

Jumping on board someone else's boat without permission (and then staying on it!) is worthy of marooning or worse.

The Beautiful Letdown 04-15-2008 10:37 PM

I guess it really would depend on how nice im feeling lol, but newbies shouldn't be in Tormenta in the first place.

Captain Fireskull 04-15-2008 10:50 PM

Well, Id probably be the newbie since im level 22, but If I was level 30+ then I would pick B. Unless if im in a bad mood, then Id go with F.

poindexter_79 04-15-2008 11:23 PM

my view is a little of D and E. I would ignore till the noob died and then I would take out the Seabeard. its the only way a player is going to learn what they are capable of going up against. If you help them out, they are going to expect someone to be there. Also I do not believe in the healing aspect of the voodoo doll cause it is too easy of a way for some noob to leech off of my kills. Stick to Port Royal and Tortuga till you are ready for the big time. You do not learn anything if everything is done for you. I have alreay gained quite a "fan club" for my actions/views but im sticking to my guns. I didnt work this hard learning the ins and outs of the game for the last two months so some noob could follow me around and use me for points. Sorry for the rant but its been eating me alive for the last week.

Thrawn33 04-16-2008 01:05 AM

I'm going with D, and possibly F.

I flat out tell the noobies in Tormentia that I can't guarentee their saftey, and I'm pretty much only looking out for myself (If rolling with my guild its another story).

Chris 04-16-2008 01:36 AM

it depends if its a stuck up noob i choose f if its a nice friendsly i might choose a

AdmiralSavvy 04-16-2008 02:23 AM

Hahaha
 
:pirate6:

I'm voting for D, because care too much and he won't leave. (crazy fanboy) :laughks2: lol

Samantha Wildhound 04-18-2008 03:11 AM

if hes under 30, id let him die with no intervention, people need to learn the hard way, that being in a dangerous place utterly above your level, bad things will happen, its usually the ones who tp in with friends, and ive lost count of how many times ive seen level 10-20 noobs shoot one in the face wiuth a pistol, its not worth it to even try to save them, as they couldnt do more than 1 damage anyways.

howver if theyre above 30, i heal, and use dirt, curse, just status modifiers to the enemy, so he has a better chance, and after its over, try to steer or suggest a better place to level, or a different tactic, or even offer to heal while they take on more if i need a break.

Bilgepump 04-18-2008 01:14 PM

G. Grab the popcorn and watch to see if he makes it out.

Seriously, it's not like dying in this game really hurts. It's one thing if it's someone who's high enough to handle the zone, but if the only mobs in Tormenta that you can handle are the bats, then you shouldn't be there.

Besides, if you help him, you run the risk of him hanging around to "help" you, and leech some risk-free rep from your kills, which is usually why the lower-level players go there in the first place.

Rackat 04-18-2008 01:24 PM

I'm about 500 points from lv31, with my voodoo doll mastered, and I only attack the Seabeards with a Guild Mate or a Friend. Let the n00b's die. When I was a lv4, I stayed away from lv12's. It's common sense for most, and those without common sense will wind up in jail and groggy. LOL!

davy redflint 06-09-2008 04:10 AM

g. aye like the popcorn thing , after all we are just humble pirates arggg!

Poison elf 06-10-2008 01:28 PM

I generally kill the seabeard. This is because when he runs it by, and back out or dies, it is going to come back and likely attack out of character, or glitched.

mongo 06-10-2008 01:50 PM

Something similar happened to me last night. I was leveling grenades on Cangrejos (good rep off the French Lietenants, btw) and some poor level 20-something had agged a Captaine and was running for her life. I was looking for my next target and she was running towards me. After switching to doll and seeing she was hurting I tried to get to her to heal but she just kept running and just as I got her attuned he unloaded one last sidewinder and finished her off. Killed him and went back to what I was doing.

Earlier another low to mid 20 asked for help killing them for a quest and I was happy to. He knew he needed help and asked for it and I was only grinding the nades. He was helpful and very appreciative. And I told him to just pay it forward. He almost became a puppy but I had to go offline for a while and when I returned, he had moved on.

But if they're running.. it's too late except to clean up the mess they'll leave behind. And I have warned several low level players when they are in an area the can't handle. I am generally ignored.

Jack Darkbane 06-10-2008 02:06 PM

Yeah It all depends on his attitude if he is all I could on you choose F but if he is nice help him the best you can without interfering your training.

larkija 06-12-2008 01:48 AM

H. "Sorry, afk".

Swash 06-12-2008 02:04 AM

A i'm not mean plus remember the crew bonus

rade775 06-12-2008 02:06 AM

i chose to say that i help him and i attune him and them let him get all the mosters and then let him die

noo i chose a

Nathaniel Wolfson 06-12-2008 04:16 AM

Okay, if they're there and they're trying to be useful (healing), or got dragged there by someone, and are trying to stay out of the way of death (everyone should stay out of my way....), I'll heal them, nuke the enemy, and then suggest that this isn't the most healthy place for them.

If they insist on puppy-dogging me, or worse rep-leech-by-assist, try to subtly back off while they're still fighting or switch to uber-low damage attacks. Then, the enemy eventually shifts focus and solves my problem for me.

The worst fool I ever saw came back twice after having me do that.

The only ones I try to help unconditionally are my own guildies, though even some of them can be annoying at times (attracting something too big, having me finish it, then saying something dumb like "We're a good team...")

I keep saying "What mean "we" Kimosabe?"

Swordblade 06-19-2008 02:46 AM

I would either choose C if I'm just there because I'm bored but if I'm Leveling my Sword/Staff then it would be B.

emmalemmalemma 06-19-2008 02:54 AM

What I would do wasn't a choice, I'd continue to heal them until they finished off the seabeard and if I don't think they can do it on their own I would help take him out.. I've mastered in voodoo though so I wouldn't be getting anything out of it, so I may just go at them with an unmastered weapon and hope to distract them enough to take the seabeard away for me.. They do change targets.. Maybe that would give them enough time to get away.. But I was over in Tormenta when I was twenty something with my twenty something friends and we did just fine. Occasionally going to jail but not so much that it wasn't worth the time..

sammyh 07-05-2008 04:38 PM

really i would choose b. even though i am mid lvl. (lvl 15) but i can still take on a lower lvl tormenta enemy(not the bats, those are easy.), with a little help from one of my friends. i dont think i should be punished by defeating a high lvl enemy by accidently getting the attention of a seabeard someone else is fighting.

arrg.

Nelly Darkpaine 07-05-2008 04:57 PM

Im just glad that Im not the only person who spells TormenTA 'Tormentia' and I bet many of you pronounce it the same as I do 'Tormencha' until I was corrected... now its TormenTAH.

;)

Oh, and I'd heal em, help kill it, and then recommend he move to a safer place! :)

Jeena 07-05-2008 07:06 PM

C) Just Heal Him, you did your good deed

=] I'd heal throughout the battle.
You get rep, though not deducting it from the other player & you also saved someone a trip to the locker. =]

X

Evie 07-06-2008 12:27 AM

I would choose A. Have done so many times, and have made many friends that way.

I have to say, those are my most loyal friends, too. Now when I go to Tormenta, I usually have many of them with me, and now that they are bigger, they don't need as much help.

But I never get even a little yellow before at least 4 dolls attune and heal me.

Sometimes it pays to adopt a newbie. ;)

AR_FiberNeoPirate 07-06-2008 01:18 AM

F! JP. i would choose A. cause i be nice ;) lol
but i ain't not push over! >=(



(JAG,E.D.M.)

Mr.LoveLocket 07-06-2008 01:58 AM

A) Heal him, and kill nasty Seabeard. Then offer to crew with him to keep him safe
except im not gonna keep him safe i would help him but not heal anymore. I would be to busy leveling and let him die. [sorry if i sound mean]

astrocamstar 07-12-2008 07:38 PM

I'd say D or F hehe.. :D it would be fun watching him run.. and then die

Carnage 07-12-2008 07:54 PM

Lets see if I help him and heal him and we manage to defeat/escape Seabeard.. The following will happen::

:piratetongueor4: :sadmh9:
n00b Me

HE'LL ANNOY ME TO NO DANG END!!! but If I don't help him.. THIS WILL HAPPEN YAY!!::

:sadmh9: :degen:
n00b Seabeard.

mongo 07-13-2008 04:42 AM

I like G. Maybe with a comment like RUN FOREST RUN!!!

This is a bit like my old D+D days. I used to like to watch them bounce once then cast feather fall. I guess I just have a mean streak.

enillian 07-16-2008 02:55 PM

I'd choose B. We were all newbies once.

Chris 07-16-2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enillian (Post 54701)
I'd choose B. We were all newbies once.

Yes, but most of us (i hope) didnt feed off of higher levels rep without asking or them offering.

Joseph 07-16-2008 05:45 PM

Ill go with B ill heal him kill the seabeard but but hes on his own after that because whenever im there im there to train not keep people alive.

Aliese 07-16-2008 06:04 PM

Generally speaking I'd go with E, though not because I'm afraid of my Beardies (:wub8:). In most cases, I think newbies really do need to learn the hard way.

When that wouldn't be true would be if they're doing that quest where you have to go there and dig, way before your pirate's actually ready to be there. If I know that's why they're there, I'll help. :)


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