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Jade Macmorrigan 04-13-2008 11:53 AM

Suggestion for Adult Servers- LISTEN UP DISNEY GUYS!!! (lol)
 
i really hope this gets the attention of the admins of the game..i've seen other suggestions made that are now part of the game..so here goes...

ok so i've tried to search thru the threads here and i've seen this mentioned on other unrelated threads but not seen anything that deals with this directly. so i figured i'd give it it's own thread (if that's ok...lol.)

I've noticed there seems to be quite a few people besides myself who all feel the same way. that it'd be nice if they made 18+ ONLY servers with a few less restrictions. like a little less prone to ban someone for giving their age, state they live in, an email address, that sort of thing. someplace we can actually play with people and KNOW for certain they're OUR age and have a conversation like adults without fear of being banned. we have to give our ages when we set up our accounts anyway. if people didn't want to be exposed to what was said on the adults only servers they could go to the regular "Pirates-Lite" and play the "G-rated" version. i mean we need a "PG" kind of thing...well you know what i'm getting at! hee hee hee...

like i said on another thread..i'll sign a waiver if i have to stating i'm playing at my own risk on a more open game.

i just think it's pretty crappy that they snoop through a private conversation between two people (i mean HELLOOOO what is the "whisper" feature for anyway???) doesn't whispering imply confidentiality? there's only supposed to be 2 people reading it! ...uh, the only people who are gonna be offended in a private convo are the people involved...right? (and i know i definately would not hesitate to report someone after asking them nicely to stop being a virtual jack-*****...) if it's "privately" said why do they flip out and say that something's "too personal"? then leave it to the people involved to take it upon themselves to report it!!

so i say make some adult servers then. problem solved.

i've said it before..the game already promotes gambling, drinking, killing/torture of lliving...and NOT so living (lol), talking to prostitutes, voodoo magic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...lol. i think it's being a bit hypocritical that we can't give out a yahoo id without being chastized and made to feel like a naughty 3rd grader being sent to time-out. my best friend of 17 years and i like to strategize but have to do it in yahoo half the time so we don't get banned.

that's another thing. what if it was someone you knew PERSONALLY -like as in the flesh so to speak. you're gonna get banned for telling your relative or best friend something they deem inappropriate???? that's just DUMB. There should be an "appeal" process to allow you the opportunity to plead or explain your actions or words. like letting them follow up and ask the other person involved what's going on maybe before they just ban you. can't they write and tell you that you're in risk of suspension because you said this or that and they're investigating it before final judgement is handed out. lol. i know it sounds a little dramatic, but it seems to be a bit more of a fair way to deal with it.

that's why i'm suggesting this here on it's own thread. anyone who feels the same way? i say let's all write to the Pirate People and see if we can maybe persuade them! heeheehee... "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!" <-hahahahaha....

Thanks for having a look guys!

Jade.:pirate6:

CryHavoc 04-14-2008 05:32 AM

I completely agree 100%! I was only banned once for giving my friend that lives down the street my new email address...wait this is what I said...First and last name at so and so dot com....And it was through a whisper. She already knows my first and last name so I didn't give out that part, just what website it was on. It's ridiculous and there needs to be something done about it.

Angel 04-14-2008 05:47 AM

I agree.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ic/Spanish.gif

Im tired of goin to the hotbox for being an adult. I mean my niece says way worse things that me!!! And shes only 15! Oops, am I gonna get banned for that?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Topic/jail.gif

Macon The Black 04-14-2008 06:00 AM

yeah there are so many stupid words that arent bad that dont allow you to type. and then you type a paragraph and it doesnt get accepted then you have to retype the whole thing. earlier it wouldnt let me type "drive"

Jade Macmorrigan 04-14-2008 07:22 PM

lol...i've had that happen...write a long reply hen have to redo the whole thing...hee hee... and yeah i know...my neice is about to be 16...yeah...sometimes i'm like, OMG! hahaha...WOW!! some of the stuff kids were doing when she was in junior highschool even had me freakin out...i didn't really get "INTO" into boys untill i was 14! lol. but yet we have to watch our mouths over email???? or saying a few "choice words" you'd hear on any regular everyday television show??? wth? UGH!

Lib Feathers 04-17-2008 11:52 AM

I have heard the game is aimed at 13-year-olds, and their mouths are notoriously full of 4-letter words. I pick my daughter up at middle school every day, and you can tell when school's out. Soon as those doors open, all you hear is streams of profanity. So I guess what Disney is doing is expecting us ALL to be like that, and using that to justify all the restricted language.

Want to get around it? Just do what the 13-yr-olds do: respell everything. Get creative.

Twisted 04-17-2008 12:16 PM

I agree as well. My whole guild is all adult and we can't have most conversations (even ones that contain no profanity etc) and alot of messages don't go through...

I mean hell, why can't we even say in guild chat what level we are without typing it out in words? Or how far from a level we are??? That's just ridiculous. Tonight I was playing with a friend in Kingshead jail, and she was 69 points from levelling her cutlass. Couldn't even type in "six nine" in GC, had to put it in local chat for it to work... A little backwards to me...

I'm sure this game has a rating like "E for Everyone" so shouldn't adults be included? I know there are alot of adult only guilds around as well. So adult only servers should be allowed as well. I know its aimed at kids, but a little freedom for being grown up would be nice...

Angel 04-17-2008 07:12 PM

I would love to see Adult only guilds....or something along the lines of allowing us to speak!!! Most of our guild has switched to voice chat. No restrictions there, but not everyone has access to it and were still workin out the bugs on it (*read* tryin to set up ventrillio server).

As for not being able to write out numbers, some might have a + sign in the chat box restricting them from saying numbers.

Twisted 04-18-2008 07:41 AM

I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the + sign. But even if she did, I couldn't type it either, and I know I don't have it there...

DarkScarlett 04-18-2008 05:26 PM

I agree as well I think it's great my daughter has a safe place to pay and interact but l would like to interact with my online mates as well and be age appropriate, it is really a pain trying to communicate even the simplest things that sometimes have to do with game play.
If they could seperate are servers by age (when we register) or do a waiver, or something...... please maybe even private messaging for adults only, I like making new friends online and the filters sometimes make you seem REALLLY LAME due to those awkward moments of silence trying to decipher a way to chat through the filters.... and hey i have seen plenty of young'nz working around it in open chat using inappropriate language... I hope disney looks into this post i have also suggested it to the site directly

Angel 04-18-2008 07:11 PM

I agree. Just as in TT, have the chat limited on the younguns to standard chat, and no gettin around the chat filters. Parents when you sign your child up please turn on parental controls. Not only does this help us know who is a minor and what not, but it will also keep the "bad pirates" from being able to chat the wrong things to them and where they can hear them.

Minors MUST have the plus sign in the chat box to hear a convo. As it is right now its only for local and whispers, but it should be in crew as well.

Silver Beard 04-18-2008 07:21 PM

What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

Nathaniel Wolfson 04-19-2008 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Beard (Post 35419)
What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

Personally, I [Expletive Deleted] don't [Expletive Deleted] give a [Expletive Deleted] about [Expletive Deleted] no [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted] swearing.

:laughks2:

Seriously. Potty-mouth can be checked at the load screen. It isn't needed in-game.

HOWEVER, I'd like to be able to have a conversation in the game, with an ADULT, about the freakin' game WITHOUT having to find some way of circumventing the capricious, and highly uneven chat filters. Literally, there are times I can NOT say something, five minutes later I can, five minutes after that, I can't again.

And this is in private chat to another adult player.

Seriously. Woodruff's Tortugan Freebooters!

Literally, you can't express levels in the game. Or how many points you have left to a level.

You can't say "cell" even though you've got jails.

Heck, you can't even help people having problems with their computer sometimes! One of my guild officers was having lockups all the time on her system. Turned out to be a Vista machine with only 512MB of RAM on it.

:skull:

Couldn't ask her to reboot. Couldn't say "Windows".

And, as has been noted before. This lovely chat filter prevents guilds from telling each other about their guild website/forums. In order to get my officer the URL for ours, I had to go through fairly amazing contortions, since after a while you couldn't say DOT.

Anyhoo, she's fixed now, recommended a 2GB RAM upgrade and that cleaned her problems up (Vista+Insufficient RAM+Memory Leaks Out The Ying Yang=bad Pirates Experience) and she claims that her machine is like a different beast now.

:buds:

I'm not saying that Disney needs to drop and spread for the pervs or anything to improve the game. Just recognize that there are a significant number of adult players and conversations more sophisticated than "Gonna smoosh a skeleton" are going to happen.

DarkScarlett 04-22-2008 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Beard (Post 35419)
What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

not all of want to use foul language when talking to other adults. Please don't generalize that that is the motive , I could not even type the word EAST which is a navigational term, i could not type the word commerce or Harley as in bikes or tap as in water for petes sake i tryed to address someone by thier Disney pirate name and it wouldn't allow Lighten up not all adults are foul mouthed spazoids

Lib Feathers 04-22-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Beard (Post 35419)
What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

I agree with Wolfson and DarkScarlett. Swearing has NOTHING to do with it. I don't want to swear in the game. I just want to be able to get one sentence across. I've had trouble recently trying to say "paranoid" and "got laid off", as in at work. Maybe paranoid was unnecessary, but we're making new friends in this game, and friends like to know what's going on with other friends' lives. I could have used a little sympathy when I got laid off, and it would have helped my friends understand why I've changed the hours I usually play pirates.

lilred 04-22-2008 04:32 PM

The whole language filter issue does pose a real problem when communicating with our members but we have alot of different aged ppl playing and u cannot control what everybody is going to say and how they will say it. I like that alot of the foul lanuage has been removed, which doesn't belong there anyways but I do feel that they can loosen the reigns alittle on alot of the general conversations that take place during gameplay.

Lib Feathers 04-24-2008 06:17 PM

I wonder if there is some way they could incorporate that high-pitched ring tone into the adult servers. I cannot hear it, but it drives my underage daughter nuts. That would be one way to weed out the junior players.

Leon Sharkshot 04-24-2008 06:51 PM

I'm only teen but I'll support you guys getting your own server. It seems perfectly reasonable that you get your own space, although I'll have to sacrifice time with my guild members, who are adults. :-(

Well, at least I might have to. They're probably going to want to play on the 18+ servers so... there goes most of my game... but it's worth it.

At least I still have my quests and weapons to level up. Good luck with this..

Soul Patch The Fiesty 04-24-2008 07:10 PM

I would be ok with them requiring over the phone verification with a driver's license number, and card used to make account unlimited. I know that still wouldn't encompass all adults that play, but it would get a vast majority. And if parents were unlocking an adult server for their child, they would have to accept responsibility for whatever 'game change experiences' may occur. The person doing the verification would have to actually say a set list of major rules (such as 'cursing will not be filtered' 'this will enable the game to be played without censureship of D, etc. . . . )

I would be down for that, becuase I an adult with my own CC and I have a driver's license. I would think at least 90% of valid adults playing would. I would like to think more than 90%, but it is a D game, and I don't have the optimism about the general public that I used to.

Dr. Zeppers 04-26-2008 03:11 PM

The thing here is I would say is that Disney prides itself in telling parents that the content on thier site is kid safe. Parents want to be able to unleash thier children, without having to do what parents are supposed to do (monitoring thier childs activities). So Disney goes to no end to make it that way. Thier methods are obviously less than perfect, and quite aggravating when you start bringing in an older crowd of gamers.

Games like toontown, etc fit that genre, and thats great. They draw only the target audience (ie children) for the most part. Fitting the genre of a kids oriented game, in a kidsafe environment, excellent!!!

You start expanding into the pirate world (even the POTC movies were pg parental guidance) you have a genre that appeals to an audience of all ages, not primarily children.
How do you deal with this.

How do you make bloodthirsty pirates the game is built around... kid safe?

Question the description of "bloodthirsty"? Like Barbossa says in the first movie when Jack offers trying diplomacy... "Talk like that is what lost you the Pearl in the first place Jack. They'll be easier to search DEAD."


Yes, ive been told for example, you dont like it, there are many other pirate games out there.

Folks there are more POTC fans out there than you likely know, and they are not children. How many think that the POTC movies are responsible for fanship? Well in recent years perhaps, but not in my case. I grew up with Pirates of the Carribean. I've ridden the ride at DisneyLAND (not world) 100s of times since its opening at the park. Its one of the oldest rides in the park, and surprise!!! It has always been one of the MOST popular rides even before any POTC movie was even a thought process!

The first movie itself had several scenes taken directly from the original Disneyland ride! For example, the scene with jailed pirates trying to get the dog to bring them the key for example, has been a scene in the disneyland ride since it opened. The scene with Barbossa drinking rum as an undead... it streaming down his gullet (visibly).. taken from the ride. The idea of appearing skeletal with moonlight, was also derived from the ride, although it used 'lightning' as the light that showed the skeletons.

I knew that "Dead men tell no tales" long before any movie was produced, the jolly roger (skull crossbones) that appears top middle of POTCO has been at the start of the amusement park ride for years saying just that.

Its theme song? "Yo ho! YO HO! A pirates life for me" played throughout the ride, and sang by Captn Jack and Miss Swann on the beach of Rumrunners Isle (in the first movie). "I love that song" says Jack! ;)

POTC has a place in my heart, and the movies adding a further storyline to the subject makes it just that much more my choice of pirates games. Either loosening things up for this game, or providing portals to 'adult oceans/servers' would ease alot of tension, and likely help to escalate revenues. It would also help serve those which have remained loyal fans for decades.

Zeppers lvl 40 - All mastered but lvl 21 cannons
Groggy McJones lvl 26 - All weapons quest/tp quest finished - avoiding story quest
http://pirates.teamofx.us

DarkScarlett 04-28-2008 07:28 AM

Scarlett letter idea
 
I had an idea the other night they signify basic from unlimited by name plate colors i think they should devise a way to signify 18+ and if the ones lie about age or someone illegally verifies that for them they should have the liabilty

for the last week i have had all sorts of friend request and turned them down imediatly because i had found that a few of the friends i have were children - talking about adult themes to me but because of my suspicion and thier actions i just boldly came out and asked - if they were adult..... i got a few um ok bye whispers and then some were actually honest

I explained i liked to play with my own age and not to take it personally but i pay to play how I want to................ then i had to deal with a bunch of drama on why i xed them from friends someone followed and hassled me for an hour........... CRIMANY..... HOLY HORMONE DEVELOPMENT, I EXPLAINED HEY IM JUST AN AVATAR .....now please leave me to my plundering

i just really think it would be helpfull for both age gruops alike to know who they should run with.

alas this prob will never happen, but from now on i may be known in some circles as the pirate who says " uh not to sound like a pirate snob but are you an adult?"

LOL at least that way it will be documented in those millions of GB of un monitored chat logs I made an effort, :confused::confused::confused: oh my spelling is horrible but im a little hot about the topic

Angel 04-28-2008 08:17 AM

I agree. Thats why most of the time I go by the whisper feature. If they have a plus, I assume they are a minor. Child chat is what I call it.

Jade Macmorrigan 04-28-2008 10:22 AM

DarkScarlett that was such an awesome idea i think Disney needs to hire you. Seriously. How easy would that be? We have to give our ages anyway, so there you go.

And it could be made understood in the agreement we all checked off that the Whisper feature is completely private and actually MAKE IT THAT WAY....even from Disney. (but, ok if they feel like they gotta snoop thru the whispers...cut some slack then because it's meant to be PRIVATE...lol).

i also think like SamuelMcMalley said..i think it'd do nothing but boost revenues if they DID offer servers or SOMETHING exclusive to adults only.

point is there has to be a way to protect the teeny-boppers and kiddies while giving us older players what we want too. Are the big brains of Disney not up to the task? Are they not SMART enough to figure this one out?? (hee hee hee.....sounds like i'm layin' out a challange.... but if that's what it takes, then hey! why not?)

:dancetl6:

Hyde 04-28-2008 01:48 PM

I haven't actually read the whole of this thread, but I totally agree with the title, servers for ATLEAST 16 year olds up, should have less strict rules. Even if they adopt the system Habbo has currently adapted, let people who are over a certain age turn the word filter off. Nothing drives me more mad when I'm trying to talk and see 'Arrr!'. I'm not even going to get started on VMK! It's supposed to be a chat room, but it pretty much contradicts itself.

Ameila 04-28-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyde (Post 36803)
I haven't actually read the whole of this thread, but I totally agree with the title, servers for ATLEAST 16 year olds up, should have less strict rules. Even if they adopt the system Habbo has currently adapted, let people who are over a certain age turn the word filter off. Nothing drives me more mad when I'm trying to talk and see 'Arrr!'. I'm not even going to get started on VMK! It's supposed to be a chat room, but it pretty much contradicts itself.

Totally agree with you, although some people might put thier age as adult, and go to the servers.

thefadedrose 04-28-2008 05:23 PM

I am in total agreement with the 18+ servers and this is why. The other nite I was with my guild and all the guys in our guild left for a moment so that left me and the wenches. We were standing off to the side just chatting when this guy came up to us and started talking to us in local chat. You would not believe the stuff he had said to us. We were all adults and normally we do have a ten year old female in our group but thank goodness she wasnt with us that night. I have heard a lot of things in my lifetime but this guy was such a pervert. We reported him five times that night. There was no innuendos but outright telling us how he would and does wenches. What he uses and not use and then began to tell what he would like to do us in very explicit language. We told him this was a kids game and that he should not be saying those type of things. We have warned the kids in our guild to stay away from him and to report him to us as well as Disney if he persisted. I hate the thought of losing our kids in the guild but after the other night I think it would be safer. This is just my opinion of course. Here lately I have noticed more and more strange folks getting on board with this game and I think Disney needs to step it up and finally do something about these pervs prowling the game boards.

Angel 04-28-2008 07:32 PM

I agree Rose. I had oen guy badmouthing a noob as he came out of jail. I came up to him and basically said "Excuse me? You are aware this is a kids game?" He proceeded to hit on me and when i offered nothing in return, he kept throwin out foul language that was in local. Needless to say he was reported by everyone locally.

Jade Macmorrigan 04-29-2008 11:35 AM

Ya know Angel that's another thing that irritates me about Disney and another reason we need adult servers like Rose said. What good does it to report someone on the game for acting like a complete and total jerkwad? I was on one nite and some guy was being SUCH a jerk...he kept calling people "Noobs", laughing and making rude comments -especially when someone would get killed by the Mercenary in the fort on Port Royal...he was being extremely obnoxious. Finally i said something to him that if he didn't like playing with other people why was he playing a game ONLINE? so he kept telling me he was reporting me...blah, blah, blah. i guess he didn't like being told he was acting like a creep...lol. So i looked his name upon the Directory...turns out *HE* wasn't even a paying player...and on there talking smack and acting like he was "King of all Disney"! So i copied down his guest # and reported him. the response i recieved was something like,

"thank you for your concern, we'll check into it, next time switch servers."

WHY should *I* switch when *I'M* not bugging anyone and just trying to stand up to someone for other people????

and WHY does Disney get all hostile at people for giving out EMAIL addresses when they won't even do anything about someone acting like a complete PSYCHO?????

:sadmh9:i don't get it.

Jade Macmorrigan 04-29-2008 11:38 AM

i just thought f something else..lol...we should start a thread of people who we find acting like jerks like that...post their name, and a description or something (maybe thier number or nick name off the directory...lol) and why they're being reported.....hahahaha....wonder if they'd keep it up if they knew they were becoming a public poster child for idiots like them....

Dr. Zeppers 04-29-2008 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 36918)
So i looked his name upon the Directory...turns out *HE* wasn't even a paying player...and on there talking smack and acting like he was "King of all Disney"

This is the unfortunate problems that happen when you have 'free' sign up options. Emails used for authentication of accounts can be created on a whim at several various email host sites giving these creeps the ability to recreate bogus non-paid accounts over and over.

Other similar games have similar trials but are usually via invites from already paying members instead of a "Free for all" free for all.. lol. I like how people can play for free, but I think perhaps more stringent account authentication, etc may be in order to make thier agreements we all have to accept a bit more 'binding'.

Zeppers Lvl 40
http://pirates.teamofx.us

Leon Sharkshot 04-29-2008 02:40 PM

Seriously.

Nunkii 04-30-2008 04:49 AM

I agree with just about everyone on here. Recently, I was suspended for saying my yahoo name in a whisper. The chat system they have for this game is crappy. You cannot type and fight at the same time, you can't say certain words even though there is NO profanity involved at all and the list continues. Without Yahoo, I would go insane!! They need to fix this chat issue right now.

Also, yes, I believe we should have Adult servers as well. =0)

DarkScarlett 05-01-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 36921)
i just thought f something else..lol...we should start a thread of people who we find acting like jerks like that...post their name, and a description or something (maybe thier number or nick name off the directory...lol) and why they're being reported.....hahahaha....wonder if they'd keep it up if they knew they were becoming a public poster child for idiots like them....


OMG i think that's a GREAT, no I mean FANTASTICALY GREAT IDEA, lol, IT'S WILL BE THE WANTED POSTERS , MAY BE THEY CAN MAKE IT PART OF THE GAME IF THEY GET TOO MANY REPORTS WE TAKE EM TO PORT ROYAL FOR PUBLIC HANGIN arrrrr

Lib Feathers 05-01-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 36921)
i just thought f something else..lol...we should start a thread of people who we find acting like jerks like that...post their name, and a description or something (maybe thier number or nick name off the directory...lol) and why they're being reported.....hahahaha....wonder if they'd keep it up if they knew they were becoming a public poster child for idiots like them....

I'm not sure how well that would work... but I did have a similar idea. When someone acts up, take a screenshot of it. Then you'd have a built-in wanted poster.

Misty 05-01-2008 03:30 PM

lol
 
OMG Lib thats a great idea!! Someone should start a thread - and everyone could get screen shots of these individuals that would not only have their screen name but it would have the chat box with what they said.
Then you could also take that picture and put it on a bug report to disney and say hey! we have had enough!:piratewheelgo2:

Just my two cents

Misty

Sarah 05-01-2008 03:48 PM

I'm not sure how the rules work here, but on the TT forum, mods won't let you "name names". Since the forums are run by the same group, I would assume the rules are the same here. If that's not the case here, I say go for it. (could be considered flaming though) Hey Mods, is this allowed here? A "wanted poster" thread...heehee. (i know, i know, go read the site rules again mate) :)

Basil Dreadflint 05-01-2008 04:38 PM

I agree wholeheartedly
 
Adults only is a GREAT idea. Not just for the chat, but, more importantly for the game.

I have had numerous experiences where I have been shanghied due to "children" who lock onto you at the dock and port to your ship and just start blasting away. Next thing, you're swimming and paying to repair your ship, when all you started out to do was sail to Kingshead!

I am new to my guild, but have been playing for awhile, I'm trying to establish myself as a working member. It's almost impossible to "get to know" anyone, with the severe restrictions that are imposed.

E.G. Chat msg: "I'll meet you at the dock" This will not transmit! Meet is not allowed. Implies personal/physical meeting.

Chat Msg: "I'll call you when I get to Outcast" Again not transmitted. Call is not allowed. Implies a personal relationship.

HOW RIDICULOUS!

Like on eof the others said, They ask our age when joining up. Allow the adults to have thier own servers, with less restrictions... I'm not in favor of language that is not accpetable in 'polite' company, but a well deserved 'DAMN' shouldn't be banned or get someone a 3 day suspension.

Lady Freckles 05-01-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 37470)
I'm not sure how the rules work here, but on the TT forum, mods won't let you "name names". Since the forums are run by the same group, I would assume the rules are the same here. If that's not the case here, I say go for it. (could be considered flaming though) Hey Mods, is this allowed here? A "wanted poster" thread...heehee. (i know, i know, go read the site rules again mate) :)

You're correct - we don't allow "naming names" in a negative way either towards other players or guilds. If the person being named is not a member here, they have no way to defend themself and it's always possible that the guilty party is a child who was running amok on a parent's pirate.

A lot of players on TT keep their own personal list of people they won't play with, known griefers etc. I'm sure people on POTCO probably do the same thing.

Angel 05-01-2008 07:49 PM

Also another thing with naming names is you know how many pirates have the same name?!? Check DxD and you will see.

Basil, you the Basil from Elite? If so, nice to see you on here!!! /waves

Lucy 05-01-2008 08:18 PM

Lucy is also my characters name, it got approved, but when my friends type Lucy in chat it gets arrr'd, my friends have to type LUCkY.

but yes, I too would prefer to play with adults, especially after the little boy that followed me around one night making kissy kissy text to me constantly.

TomorrowAlpha 05-01-2008 09:04 PM

I agree with Leon, you adults should have the privilege of your own servers. Maybe we could have a member's only server too... would that be a good idea?

`TA`

Basil Dreadflint 05-02-2008 04:55 AM

Yes ANgel, Same Basil. Gotta uphold my image.

Jade Macmorrigan 05-05-2008 11:40 AM

no wanted posters??? dang. (lol) :sadmh9:

Basil Dreadflint 05-05-2008 01:53 PM

Second post to this thread
 
My second post on this thread.

The chat Gestapo has gone too far!!!!!

I just got notice of a 72 hour suspension. BECAUSE I gave out my IM name. This is the perfect arguement for an Adults only set of servers. I'm old enough to be the father of these young, probably underpaid, Moderators, yet they can boot me because I wanted to talk to some of my (ADULT) Guildmates .

They have built a game that encourages interaction, making friends and aquaintances, being a part of a group with common interests and goals, BUT they suspend your account for trying to continue that relationship outside of their boundaries.

I'm going to take this one step further.

Adult only servers: They ask our age on joining. They can verify age via the credit card that pays for the account. It should be a fairly simple action to provide these servers.

Paying account servers only. Allow the frist week newbies, those just trying the game, free access. They will be enticed to join by interacting with the paying players. BUT, after the first week, limit them to a group of non-paying servers. If those servers fill, then they will be forced to wait, or join.

This would give them 4 sets of servers.
One for free player adults. Probably only a small subset of players.
One set for paying adults. Surprise, there are more of us than you think!!!
One set for free playing minors. If they have to wait to log in, then they can hassle their parents into a subscription.
Last set for paying subscription minors. Probably the largest subset of players.

Allow first week new players to pick their server, within age limits.

I am a responsible adult. I should be aloowed to decide for myself who I trust and who I do not! I have made it through life, so far, by making my own friends and aquaintances, without someone else having to decide for me.

I'm also going to make one last statement: I know for a fact that a lot of adult players are leaving the game. The first guild I was in died. One of the reasons was the lack of things to do once a player 'Masters" out. The other reason was a series of suspenssions that were handed out due to 'personal info' being chatted about. Things like IM names, what state someone lived in, who they were personal friends with outside the game, etc.

Disney beware! You are upsetting the very people who are paying to keep this game alive! If you continue to alienate the adults, not only will they leave, they will take their children with them!

DarkScarlett 05-06-2008 07:59 AM

Aye!!!!!
 
good ideas Basil and good solutions

im adult into the game 2nd month making friends and wanting to interact beyond the carribean, and excellent point most of the paying parents are far more wrapped up into than kids they only get a few hours if homework is done at my house. My pirates are locked. whatever that feature is for cause it never asked for alternate user/pass??????? the verbage ban on adult players should have something they can do about unless it is deragotory or offensive to either party...ie whispers, etc.... some poor soul youngster talked to me and a friend randomly in public chat about his intimate relationship w/ grlfrnd. we tp'd and quick paranoid of the looselip ban

Jade Macmorrigan 05-07-2008 02:14 PM

when they emailed me that survey about the game and i got to the part of "what can we do to make the game better"....gee what do you suppose i suggested? ..lol. i had to rewrite it 3 times because my little rant kept going over their 1000 word limit....hahahaha!

Angel 05-07-2008 08:30 PM

LOL I also added my 2 cents on that part :)

DarkScarlett 05-08-2008 05:37 AM

New terms and conditions release 5/6/2008

I read previous but to be honest speed read it cause its all usually the same stuff however since i did notice it coincided with update and was BOLD and in Red i read thru it it appears to me and only my opinion that they have loosened the leash a bit and if i amunderstanding correctly making statement that user account holder is fully liable for such & such about chat/conduct

this makes sense, so maybe they have decided to ease up because on the few occasions that i have been able to play in the past 2 days i have had an easier time chatting without the aarrrr and numbers and words that previously could not use , suddenly can

Redfoote Vader 05-08-2008 08:55 PM

First post as i just recently discovered this forum.

I agree, i'd like to see some 18 and above servers.

Can somebody answer a couple questions for me? A lot of my guild mates can type numbers and names that i can't. For example, a guild member named Blime comes online and other guild members can type "hello Blime" yet i'm not allowed to type Blime. A lot are allowed to say "i just got lvl 24" yet i'm not allowed to type any numbers or even type "thirty". I've also heard about how the + allows you to say more stuff, but i don't have the +, do i have a different interface or something? Is it because i created the account for my 9 year old son, then created my own pirate on his account so i could have unlimited access too? If so, can this be corrected so i'm not so censored?

Thanks everyone.

Redfoote Vader 05-11-2008 04:24 PM

I figured out how to get the plus sign for my chat, i can now type numbers and names i wasn't able to before, so everyone can go ahead and continue to disregard my first post.

Angel 05-11-2008 07:06 PM

As you said, you created the account with your 9 y/o in play. You have what we call "Child chat" turned on. It limits a lot of what can be said. You might want to check his pirate to make sure you didnt disable his "child chat". Most of us will look for that + sign in a whisper to see if they are a child or adult. No plus, also allows more things to come his way. He will be able to see all local chat!

Redfoote Vader 05-11-2008 09:06 PM

Thanks Angel.

That's what i figured out, since it is my childs account that has unlimited access, we both always signed in under his name, etc. Now when he plays he continues to sign in under his name (no plus sign for chat). When i play, i sign in under my adult account (basic), then access my pirate on his account (unlimited) and i have the plus sign in my chat. I didn't realize i could do that until yesterday. I now know it was an easy fix and probably a stupid question.

Jade Macmorrigan 05-11-2008 10:31 PM

*OK!* I copied this directly from their new terms of use they updated that Darkscarlet mentioned above...(that was updated in red). it's at the bottom of the main page at Pirates Online. Can't miss it. So what *I* wanna know is what do these two paragraphs mean?!?!?! Does this mean we can actually give out our email addresses now? "at our own risk"?? Or are we gonna get our butts sent to the penelty box like usual??? i wanna know but i don't want to get dropped for 3 days again and get strike #2...lol...i'm a trouble maker enough in reality! i suppose i could meaasage them and just ask them point blank.....hmmm. :tiki8gt::piratetongueor4:
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Lucrecia Merlose 05-15-2008 03:19 PM

The whole "wholesome nature" environment thing bugs me. The movie endorsed violence, raping (Swan and Sao Feng scene), alcohol, gambling, and so much adult material...and I'm sure I'm not the only one disturbed, confused, and perhaps a little amused by big D. I'm not saying kids should not be allowed to play this game since the game (and not the movie) is aimed at a preteen age group...but there should be some allowances given to their adult fans and an adult only server would be a breath of relief...because I don't want to get BANNED for saying "COD ****" even though in the movie Jack Sparrow said just that and a few more choice words.

Lib Feathers 05-15-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucrecia Merlose (Post 40453)
The whole "wholesome nature" environment thing bugs me. The movie endorsed violence, raping (Swan and Sao Feng scene), alcohol, gambling, and so much adult material...and I'm sure I'm not the only one disturbed, confused, and perhaps a little amused by big D. I'm not saying kids should not be allowed to play this game since the game (and not the movie) is aimed at a preteen age group...but there should be some allowances given to their adult fans and an adult only server would be a breath of relief...because I don't want to get BANNED for saying "COD ****" even though in the movie Jack Sparrow said just that and a few more choice words.

My sentiments EXACTLY! It's CONFUSING!!! Wholesome? Disney? Drinking, murder, bad language? And yet we get our hands slapped for talking about the same things in the game - ! How are we supposed to follow the rules when it's impossible to understand what the rules are?

IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!

strathound 05-15-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkScarlett (Post 36775)
I had an idea the other night they signify basic from unlimited by name plate colors i think they should devise a way to signify 18+ and if the ones lie about age or someone illegally verifies that for them they should have the liabilty

for the last week i have had all sorts of friend request and turned them down imediatly because i had found that a few of the friends i have were children - talking about adult themes to me but because of my suspicion and thier actions i just boldly came out and asked - if they were adult..... i got a few um ok bye whispers and then some were actually honest.

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point. Disney created this game to appeal to children that wouldn't find ToonTown very interesting. But they have to make these teens safe from online predators. Giving away the identity of the children in the game should be absolutely forbidden. The reason should be obvious. Everyone is so concerned about their own gameplay and their own wants that they are forgetting that there could be people within earshot that might not actually be there to play the game. They might be interested in something else.

I am a parent of two girls, both nine. We logon together and sail as a crew. They are sitting right next to me when the spamming of friend requests begins. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm half tempted to make them create male characters.

There are lots of other online options out there if you like MMOs. But I would support having adult servers. Absolutely. So long as I know what they are, we can avoid those easily.

The challenge, of course, is identifying the adults. You may think this may be easy (someone suggested that Disney, lol, PHONE CALL every person and verify over the phone that they are an adult). But that's absolutely ridiculous and naive. If you think a teenager can't spoof that, you'll believe anything.

Unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the only way this will happen is if Disney agrees to spend lots of money on a special program to certify the age of specific players. And, they need to make sure that an adult account can't simply be logged into by a minor. That part may indeed be impossible. The good news is that the technology and know-how to do this is out there, just in a place you might not think of ... the online porn industry. They are required by law to verify the age of people entering their sites (don't ask me how I know this). I believe they do it by sending a $1.00 charge to a credit card in the registered member's name. Something like that.

Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

Thanks,

Michael

strathound 05-15-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel (Post 39661)
No plus, also allows more things to come his way. He will be able to see all local chat!

Can you explain this a bit more. I was going to start another thread asking about the Parental Controls. But you allude to something I was going to ask about. So I might as well ask here.

My daughter's account is linked to mine and I've turned on the parental controls. This means that she can only say things that are in the list of child approved words (forget what this is called). But my concern was that she would still be able to read what an unrestricted character is saying. Is that true? Or does it filter that for her as well (that'd be great).

Also, does anyone know if you can disable friend requests in the parental controls? I'd like to have manual control of that so I can turn it off completely 90% of the time and then only turn it back on when she tells me she has a friend from school or something that she wants to add. That would be great as well.

Michael

Bella 05-15-2008 07:05 PM

I can see both sides of the fence. I myself would like to play on an adult server.

However, creating an adult server is the easy part. The sickos would simply pretend to be a child and log onto their servers. So, the problem of the wierdos is NOT solved by adult servers.

Besides there are plenty of ways to circumvent the restrictions if a guild needs to. Believe me the Wenches have. It is called set up a vent server. Since figuring this out I see no reason why the restrictions should be changed or loosened. After all it is for the protection of OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSET OUR CHILDREN!!!!

Yes I am a parent. Sometimes I am glad my daughter cant read yet......

Angel 05-15-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by strathound (Post 40477)
Can you explain this a bit more. I was going to start another thread asking about the Parental Controls. But you allude to something I was going to ask about. So I might as well ask here.

My daughter's account is linked to mine and I've turned on the parental controls. This means that she can only say things that are in the list of child approved words (forget what this is called). But my concern was that she would still be able to read what an unrestricted character is saying. Is that true? Or does it filter that for her as well (that'd be great).

Also, does anyone know if you can disable friend requests in the parental controls? I'd like to have manual control of that so I can turn it off completely 90% of the time and then only turn it back on when she tells me she has a friend from school or something that she wants to add. That would be great as well.

Michael

If you have parental controls on the account, they are highly restricted to words in the dictionary. I strongly recommend this for youths due to the restrictions on their chat and if they use a word out of the dictionary, we get an Arrr. Unfortunately at this time I dont think theres a way to turn off Friends requests.

To answer your other question. If I say something in local and I dont have the + sign when I type it, she cant hear/see it. If we say it in local and have the plus sign, the chat is restricted to words in the dictionary and she will be able to see/read it. Crew chat and guild chat is different. They can see/read anything even with the + sign gone. (I need to double check on that but I think thats how it is).:bookishfj7:

Lucrecia Merlose 05-15-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by strathound (Post 40476)
No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point....

I think most of us understand this is a game aimed for the youth. Personally that is not what I am focusing in on. Keeping in mind children may access the adult server for whatever reason, the parents should be made aware of this. How?
  1. Have child/parent accounts joined.
  2. Lock the parent toons so kids cannot gain access.
  3. Do not share YOUR account login information with your children
  4. Disney makes an option for parent accounts to lock children from adult servers and/or gives an alert to parent account when child account accesses adult server.

If a child makes a seperate account solely for the purpose of getting into adult servers then the parent is not supervising the childerens computer time efficiently.

I'm a parent too but my child is 4 years old and his only interest on the computer is on my lap at the Noggin website. I do sympathize with your concerns but there are easy methods to use in order to satisfy both sides of this issue.

As for online predators...we deal with them now...we will deal with them on adult servers. The answer is proper supervision and computer gameplay in moderation.

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Originally Posted by strathound (Post 40476)
....Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

I played WoW...I found it quite the task to find any adults...and if they all were adults they sure acted like loud mouthed teenagers. I never heard so much foul language, sexism, racism, and bigotry in an online game until I played WoW.

I for one am not wanting an adult server to condone such "WoW-esque" behavior but instead to offer an environment that feels very restricting to adults....giving out IM names, emails, or any identifying information. Not that I would do this with just anyone online...but perhaps if I persuade one of my longstanding MMO friends I do not wish to feel I must tiptoe around everything which I do not have to do in other MMOs.

That being said, the lack of an adult server would not make me leave POTCO...but it sure would be nice!

strathound 05-15-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel (Post 40494)
To answer your other question. If I say something in local and I dont have the + sign when I type it, she cant hear/see it. If we say it in local and have the plus sign, the chat is restricted to words in the dictionary and she will be able to see/read it. Crew chat and guild chat is different. They can see/read anything even with the + sign gone. (I need to double check on that but I think thats how it is).:bookishfj7:

Thanks for the informative reply. I've seen several posts in the forum that mention the plus sign. But I'm having some difficulty visualizing what it is and how it works. Are you saying that you can simply type a plus sign in the chat window and then it bypasses the parental controls and lets the children see the local message? Or is it something else?

Thanks,

Michael

jadedkaoss 05-18-2008 02:55 AM

Here! Here! I totally agree and I'm sure this post is soooo late but well if finally figured out hwo to post on here! Please Disney give us an adults only server!

Nick 05-18-2008 04:13 AM

The only way they could work out if you were an adult is requesting your credit card details for verification, but then again kids could "loan" their parents cards :P

Maximvs 05-18-2008 04:57 AM

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Thanks for the informative reply. I've seen several posts in the forum that mention the plus sign. But I'm having some difficulty visualizing what it is and how it works. Are you saying that you can simply type a plus sign in the chat window and then it bypasses the parental controls and lets the children see the local message? Or is it something else?
No - when you go to chat (press Ente Key) - beside the Skull on the Chat Box you will see a Talk Balloon (like in comics) - click on it and it puts a + Plus Sign in the box - then the filter is activated for you and anything you are 'allowed' to say can be seen by others (this effectively turns ON the filter on your chat making it safe for others to read - so no appreated wors are allowed and some other info will appear in red).

gl :)

DarkScarlett 05-19-2008 07:32 AM

srryi may have offended ur viewpoint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strathound (Post 40476)
No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point. Disney created this game to appeal to children that wouldn't find ToonTown very interesting. But they have to make these teens safe from online predators. Giving away the identity of the children in the game should be absolutely forbidden. The reason should be obvious. Everyone is so concerned about their own gameplay and their own wants that they are forgetting that there could be people within earshot that might not actually be there to play the game. They might be interested in something else.

I am a parent of two girls, both nine. We logon together and sail as a crew. They are sitting right next to me when the spamming of friend requests begins. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm half tempted to make them create male characters.

There are lots of other online options out there if you like MMOs. But I would support having adult servers. Absolutely. So long as I know what they are, we can avoid those easily.

The challenge, of course, is identifying the adults. You may think this may be easy (someone suggested that Disney, lol, PHONE CALL every person and verify over the phone that they are an adult). But that's absolutely ridiculous and naive. If you think a teenager can't spoof that, you'll believe anything.

Unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the only way this will happen is if Disney agrees to spend lots of money on a special program to certify the age of specific players. And, they need to make sure that an adult account can't simply be logged into by a minor. That part may indeed be impossible. The good news is that the technology and know-how to do this is out there, just in a place you might not think of ... the online porn industry. They are required by law to verify the age of people entering their sites (don't ask me how I know this). I believe they do it by sending a $1.00 charge to a credit card in the registered member's name. Something like that.

Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

Thanks,

Michael



i am also a parent and have been coaching my daughter about internet saftey for years that is a big problem with many parents that just dontn have the lines of communication or know how to educate them about and dont mistake mysuggestion as only for adults to be aware of children.... only a suggestion in programming this differation could also be used as a tool on whose chat logs should be monitired more closley speaking from a back end technical type suggestion nad yes it would make adult users aaware that they aare talking to a child not every flippin adult is a predetor...... i am sorry it got u heated....... i do however make sure toopenly ask age when befriending and can usually tell within minutes by the slang, general talk and behavour, thus far i have made friendships that i would like to take beyond the caribbean and feel unfortunate that certain things cannot be shared.... there are ways around it at angle , FOR ALL ASPECTS AND SUBJECT of this topic.... this is what i have found for myself 86% of the ppl i have meet are 30+ in age paying accounts who mostly allshare viewpoint of opting out of partaking in quest with the younger set. just an opinion and suggestion, i am glad u posted and i apprieciate yours

Lucy 05-19-2008 01:35 PM

we do not allow our daughter internet access.

Jacko 05-19-2008 10:48 PM

bring on the adult server!!!

Tab1975 05-29-2008 04:15 PM

Even if they don't allow an adult server, for heaven's sake, LIGHTEN UP! I can't say the word "Gremlins" (That's a term I use when a computer's gone wonky. Computer gremlins). I was trying to tell someone we "tore up" a skelly ship and THAT wouldn't go through. I'm trying to get my sister help for the Boss Battle - her pirate's name is Kat Badkidd, and they won't let me type her NAME! I can't even separate it and say Bad Kid. Yet they allow her to have that name...

This is my first Disney online game to play, but I can tell you this story...remember about three, four years ago when Disney started the whole "Magical Gatherings" thing for WDW and DL? And you could download this software, invite all your friends and family that were going on the trip with you, and that way you could get together online, plan you "to-dos", your food options, and they had a chat. Awesome idea, right?

My friend and I got in the chat one night and started making plans...we could not use the words "Group", "Peter", or "Mickey." FOR PLANNING A DISNEY TRIP!

I think there's protecting, and then there's ridiculous.

Lucy 05-29-2008 04:59 PM

the name Lucy use to get blocked as well, I submitted it ot Disney as an addition to their dictionary, a week later they responded saying it had been added and I havn't had problems with people not being able to use my name in chat since.

Tab1975 05-29-2008 05:04 PM

(Incidentally, if I can say this here...Lucy is Kat's real name...if not for you, she woulda been stuck either way...)

Lucy 05-29-2008 05:11 PM

thier just jealous of us Lucys because we're awsome and they were trying to keep us down :D

Maggie Wildstack 05-30-2008 05:41 PM

Here Here!
 
I couldn't agree more! Most of the players I run in to are adults anyway - so one (or several) servers would only make sense.

I received a "Shame on you" e-mail from Disney yesterday. What I don't understand is how totally random it is. I've said MUCH worse (and yes, I even managed to give out my e-mail) and never heard a peep from them. Now all of a sudden I'm under scrutiny?

The point Disney is TOTALLY missing is WHO PAYS FOR THE GAME??? It's certainly not the little kiddies....

GIVE THE ADULTS THEIR OWN SERVERS!!!

DvLzArchAngL 06-04-2008 08:51 PM

So where are all the dos and donts about what we cant say while chatting listed at?

CrazyPotatos 06-04-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 40842)
The only way they could work out if you were an adult is requesting your credit card details for verification, but then again kids could "loan" their parents cards :P

:smiley10:

That would make sense, but wouldn't the parent be asking why you would need their credit card info? If a parent wouldn't ask for that they would need some help..
I think it would be better to both, kids and adults, for seperate servers. Since then it would give kids a little "added security" and adults more freedom. Although I could see a problem with younger family members. Unless adults could not go onto the kids servers and kids would need permission from the adult they wish to go to on adult servers.
Try sending it to disney!:psmiley27:

Kaionai 06-04-2008 11:27 PM

1-800 number callem up tellem your age, last four degits of social to verify, credit card info, callem up and say I wish to sign up for adult server...so they have proof then again....that's really really really old school on my part..sorry best i could come up with.:laughks2:

DvLzArchAngL 06-06-2008 09:29 PM

Ya know this all comes down to the parents responsibility not Disney's.

The only reason the restrictions exist is to protect Disney if and when someone decides to blame them for whatever misfortune befalls them or their family.

But it wont be Disneys fault for lack of trying. It's the parents fault for lack of monitoring.
It goes way beyond the game people. If something happens to your kid on here YOU and YOU ALONE should have been watching them better. NOT DISNEYS JOB. Its OURS as parents.

And the protecting of kids is completely separate from the reason why people want an adult server anyways. We want it to get AWAY from the child like behavior we THINK the kids are displaying. Unfortunately for those who want away from it is the fact that some of the adults can and do act WAY WORSE than some of the kids do.

I for one am all for it. But hasnt anyone noticed that all the oceans/servers are linked? Doesnt matter which one youre on you cant run away from anyone. We're all playing the same game in the same world. The servers just re-distribute the workload.

No matter what ocean I go to I can still talk to every member of my guild and all my friends.
If you're on one and someone else is on another it doesn't separate you.

To run adult servers they would have to completely separate them. Which is probably more about money than our wants and needs. Disney is big business and like most primarily cares about the bottom line/dollar over all.

emmalemmalemma 06-10-2008 06:31 AM

I got my account suspended because I was trying to get one of my guildies to our guild site. We were having a tough time getting it to work and after about 15 minutes of separating and coding our chat I flattly told her the link. Two days later I got an email telling me I couldn't play for 72 hours. I asked them how I could get around getting in trouble talking to people I know in real life and apparently there is no way. Even if you are "true friends" you still are restricted. Next time I'll just pick up the phone. As for the heavily filtered chat, you can't even say I'll meet you in Cuba. However, while in crew chat with my sister in law I said a bad word and it went through. It's so inconsistent.. We should plague them with calls requesting adult servers. I would jump through whatever hoops they request if they would give us an adult server.

DvLzArchAngL 06-10-2008 08:54 PM

The other day I could say 40000 in local chat but not tell me guildmate how much each of the war ships cost. I guess it thought that the prices were my social security number, web site or home address.

Seems like it notices the context the words are used in as well as the words themselves. You can say thing but not in certain ways. My buddy couldnt even tell us he was watching "My name is Earl". Had to send it in 4 separate messages.

They filter is too heavily restricted. I mean come on people, we cant even talk about game related issues. You can say kill, killin but not killing. THATS THE POINT OF THE GAME!

Peggo 06-11-2008 12:21 AM

I'm a little confused by the chat restrictions. I don't have them. I can say numbers and typo like crazy. I don't use profanity but I can say anything I want.
It appears there are already adult filters in place. Every now and again I see someone saying they can't say something.
Am I just lucky?
But I agree an adult server would be so nice. I would love to not have my ship fired on in port. Ugh.

DvLzArchAngL 06-11-2008 08:12 PM

Oh man I had someone, assuming it was a kid, Open fire on me in the padres port thge other night. He got close enough so I could see his chat in local and he started yelling that I had angered the padres fire gods and he was an evil spirit sent to make me pay.

I was minding my own business "sniping" ships with thuderbolt from the bay and he obviously got upset by it. He then used some glitch to sail his war galleon into the mountain over and over returning to my side and opening fire yelling at me to leave or die.

I accidently typed "go away" in guild chat which prompted a few of them to hop on my boat and watch the kids temper tantrum first hand. After having enough of his attitude we all loaded up some firebrand and lit his entire boat on fire. Then and only then he finally dropped anchor and left.

While it was irritating at first and funny after that it just goes to show that anyone can act like a jerk. We just assume its kids since its child like behavior.

Peggo 06-11-2008 08:28 PM

LOL. I often open fire on them if they don't listen when I tell them "I am not a target!" I hate it when they make my ship smoke.

Captain Jessie Hawk 07-06-2008 10:34 PM

::Stands up and applauds with a standing ovation of pirates behind him somehow.::

This is in fact one of the best idea's I have heard. When I canceled my subscription because of low funds a few months ago I said this to the woman on the phone. There should be more things we can do for fun. Pirates were dirty mouthed people also if we are with a crew of our adult friends and playing around screaming at the NPC Navy we should be allowed to call then foul names!

I just do not like playing a game sometimes because the younger audience can get annoying on how to play sometimes. They don't understand the game mechanics ad older people and it just is more helpful to be on our own servers at times. It is way to much to have to worry about some kid following you and if you are thirty levels higher they expect you to help them! It's tough when I am fighting something my level to protect a level 6 child. Not to mention I understand this is a family game and all but not all MMOers play a game because it's family oriented they play it because it's a game and it should be fun. I suggested in my own thread on improving the repetitiveness of their quests.

Disney has to see that this game needs to also be for adults in someways too or a more mature audience and to at least have a server for them. For a child it's fine in fact even the repetitiveness it's great for a child helps them learn. But for someone like me it's not enough. I hope they listen to this thread dude I really do!

DarkScarlett 07-07-2008 09:27 PM

again we need to sperate the grown from adolecents... somehow
 
i got the ban the other day and i am positive it was from I am asssuming a young'n reporting me 4 not frnding him or crewing w/ him and explaining i like to play with grown ups.......


I was not rude.... but oh how i wanted to be when i asked him why we have not even sailed or fought 2gether... he desperatley needed to be my frnd.... he replied bcuz u r a hot pirate and i need a grlfrnd..........now this was my newest new lvl 2 had not even finshed tutorial.......
REALLY what kind of help could i be.....LOLOLOLLMBO...... in crew batlle or otherwise... to his knowledge the only thng i accomplished was how to use chat....he also bugged my other frnds and when we all decilined ... he went offf...that was the tip off he was a youngster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! becuz of his immaturity im convinced he reported me.... i have no other reason for 72 hr sentence... and follow the rules as vague as they r as close as i possibly can

*****************

now if they had a way to let us know who r the kids, even though that would still have probs at least we could see potential danger coming at us....lol....

i do play with kids sometyms to help them out but i always make it known im an adult and play mostly with adults( 17+)

Captain Jessie Hawk 07-07-2008 10:49 PM

That's just wrong!

benngunn 07-08-2008 04:07 PM

if an adult server is created tho, kids will change their age to get in (i think)

also its more likely that adults will PAY for the game, kids on teh other hand hvae to use their parents (in most cases) to pay so there are prolly more unlmited adult gamers tha kids

Charlotte Grey 07-08-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 35478)
Personally, I [Expletive Deleted] don't [Expletive Deleted] give a [Expletive Deleted] about [Expletive Deleted] no [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted] swearing.

:laughks2:
Bhahaa CAN'T-STOP-LAUGHING!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson (Post 35478)
Seriously. Potty-mouth can be checked at the load screen. It isn't needed in-game.

HOWEVER, I'd like to be able to have a conversation in the game, with an ADULT, about the freakin' game WITHOUT having to find some way of circumventing the capricious, and highly uneven chat filters. Literally, there are times I can NOT say something, five minutes later I can, five minutes after that, I can't again.

And this is in private chat to another adult player.

Seriously. Woodruff's Tortugan Freebooters!

Literally, you can't express levels in the game. Or how many points you have left to a level.

You can't say "cell" even though you've got jails.

Heck, you can't even help people having problems with their computer sometimes! One of my guild officers was having lockups all the time on her system. Turned out to be a Vista machine with only 512MB of RAM on it.

:skull:

Couldn't ask her to reboot. Couldn't say "Windows".

And, as has been noted before. This lovely chat filter prevents guilds from telling each other about their guild website/forums. In order to get my officer the URL for ours, I had to go through fairly amazing contortions, since after a while you couldn't say DOT.

Anyhoo, she's fixed now, recommended a 2GB RAM upgrade and that cleaned her problems up (Vista+Insufficient RAM+Memory Leaks Out The Ying Yang=bad Pirates Experience) and she claims that her machine is like a different beast now.

:buds:

I'm not saying that Disney needs to drop and spread for the pervs or anything to improve the game. Just recognize that there are a significant number of adult players and conversations more sophisticated than "Gonna smoosh a skeleton" are going to happen.

I agree. Perhaps just lowering the Disney guard a bit might help - I'm sure we know the supposed consequences of letting out our names and e-mail addresses on the internet, after all, we are (or at least some of us are) mature people.

thefadedrose 07-08-2008 05:30 PM

The only way I found a way around all this is to intentionally misspell words. For instance "Windows" ? I type in Winndows or however you want to do it. I just put in an extra letter and do it that way. Of course I let the peeps know that I am misspelling on purpose so they dont think I am an idiot. LOL! We all do this in our guild. Some peeps put one letter in at a time but I dont have the patience for that.

Chris 07-08-2008 05:55 PM

only time i feel like swearing in the game is when some :skull: person comes along and starts yelling at me or something

an example of these :skull: people is when i was trying to film the 4th fireworks he kept running infront of me i said VERY nicely could u please stop i am trying to get a film of the fireworks, he says nothing, then he starts running into me and standing right behind me (which would make is head take up my screen) at that point that :skull::skull::skull: guy i wanted to sweat his but down for being abnoxious anyway i think he got bored and left before the fireworks started and if he did it during the firework disney would have to make a new ban just for me bc it was my only chance all week to tape the firworks and if that guy messed it i may be banned for 999999 years but at least id have my video :laughks2:

Capt. Widowmaker 10-09-2008 11:14 AM

Blasted being an adult
 
I can FULLY back u up. I am sick and tired from thinking when i chat (in whatever mode):
"is this word, phrase or hint gonna suspend me" ?

I find it FULLY agreeable that disney do ev'thing they can to protect children, since abusers will do
what they can to find the playgrounds for kids. Said that, it on the other hand does NOT look like
we as adults have any rights ... having an adult server and where kids won't pester us.

* I have had one warning (me language) for being furious because a player did whatever he could
to sink me 'n crew having the most loveable numbers of royals in our cargo hold. I wrote disney
and suggested that we could plank crew'ers that provoked. :th_shark:
(I have since the new test server informations were released, found out that they grant me SIX wishes,
so i surely hope this is ONE of them !) ... that means i can simply kick a player off ship - either planked
or i can auto teleport them to port of call - without any infuriated conduct.

* I have now had three suspensions in one month: Fair and reasonable since i obviously violated
the rules - last one yesterday and still missing a reason.

But what I to some extend can't accept - is the fact that we don't have an adult server where
we can exchange -e-m-a-i-l- .d.r.e.s.s.e.s. (encrypted like in the game - but they snoop it up
since i without any doubt had my chat monitored by a staff member at least twice).

After all it's a social game where u not only play against other humans, but certainly interact
with them and twice now i have met soulmates. Of course we want to friend each other and
talk outside game, but we have NO way to exchange information.

Honestly .. the suspensions is me own fault: first suspension was 72 hours because of
e-mail handed over to another player (adult, mature and grown up etc...)

Second i must admit i used explicit hinted words related to grown up activities:
Suspension one
week ago, but only 24 hours since i am doing it elegantly.

Now one week after, suspension again 24 hours. NO direct words, NO explicit use of foul words,
etc ... but i did encrypt an e-mail address. NO way they could have sniffed
up that thru technical or software related word monitors. They simply have watched a
private conversation in whisper mode.

I feel abused and more than Big Brother'd ... like they to any extend want to control my behaviour.

>

So conclusion and some questions:

Yes an adult server IS needed. After all we the adults prob. pay for most of the unlimited accounts.
I am NOT talking exchanging explicit words or bahaviours
... i am simply talking about a way to make outside friendships.

Questions:

* How many times can an account be suspended before it possibly gets perma terminated ?

* If i want player friends to be outside friends ... will a hint about this site (where i can be
freely e-mailed) suspend me ?

* Is it considered personal info if i either in non-encrypted text write the URL to this site
(or do so encrypted and hope they don't monitor or watch conversation) ... in other words:
Any hints about this site - can it suspend me ?

* If so, anybody have a hint of how to inform player friends that they can find me here ?
... Like: I intentionally mention issue of lack of adult server, and write to an ingame friend:
"Well i have posted my thoughts about the issue on a forum where many players meet.
It's like some sort of a pirates online forum, where we discuss many issues, exchange ideas
and interact".

Could this phrase: pirates online forum - suspend me ?

I am too old to take this giant crab :crab: (on purpose typo - i don't want to be suspended
in here also LOL)

>

Help wanted and needed, otherwise i might simply leave the game :rip:, but the game has
great potential :pirate41:

Thx mateys and may weight o' ye gold pile in cargo hold :12_1_138: :icon_treasure_chest be greater than the floating abilites o' ye ship :ship:... if sum can sort this out.

Sarah 10-09-2008 12:26 PM

Capt, I have never had a problem with saying piratesonlineforums or pirates on line forums in game. Perhaps the big D likes the site ;)

As for a perma-ban from Disney, I think the magic number is seven, but it also depends on the severity of rule breaking. I imagine they could drop you after just one if you were "naughty" enough. In thier eyes, we are all 13.

Let's keep hoping for a grown up playground.

akamystic 10-09-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Beard (Post 35419)
What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

I have zero interest in using profanity in the game. If I want to swear, I express it verbally or via inner monologue in the privacy of my home. No harm done. I don’t think the option of being able to type profanity should ever be considered as it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Yes there are subjective things in the game however a line must be drawn at some point.

This is about not being able to carry on a normal conversation about daily events, favorite movie lines, etc. Whatever the topic might be it is extremely difficult to communicate the way the chat interface is currently setup. It is quite aggravating when someone has no clue what you are saying because they missed what you typed somewhere in the conversation. It doesn’t always tell you what was blocked. Sometimes I see what I typed but nobody else does. Other times I don’t see it and assume nobody else did. This can create some frustrating situations in chat sessions. It would be nice if there were other options available. I enjoy this game very much and will deal with the bugs and restrictions with the anticipation that improvements will be made. Feedback does make a difference.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

:batmoon:

MacIronhawk 10-09-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akamystic (Post 79633)
I have zero interest in using profanity in the game. If I want to swear, I express it verbally or via inner monologue in the privacy of my home. No harm done. I don’t think the option of being able to type profanity should ever be considered as it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Yes there are subjective things in the game however a line must be drawn at some point.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

:batmoon:

I agree.

I think chat could be changed a bit to fix those problems but I'll get back on topic.
An adult server...
The game was made for children not adults who want to talk about life. Profanity should never be used in a game what-so-ever.
If you mention an adult server to disney I doubt they'd give you any response.
The game was made for kids, adults can play it just the same, end of story.
It was really made for all age groups but not for what all age groups do.
If you want to use profanity, say it in your head. At least no one has to hear or read your horrible vocabulary.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-09-2008 02:52 PM

Sarah ... Great thanx ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 79632)
Capt, I have never had a problem with saying piratesonlineforums or pirates on line forums in game.
Perhaps the big D likes the site ;)

As for a perma-ban from Disney, I think the magic number is seven, but it also depends on the severity
of rule breaking. I imagine they could drop you after just one if you were "naughty" enough.
In their eyes, we are all 13.

Let's keep hoping for a grown up playground.

>>>

Foist to akamystic & MacIronhawk ... profanity is not an option, and i agree. Said that i read
that we adults have zero options but have to accept being treated like kids. that's a bad attitude.
If Disney is only running it's activities for kids ... they are way outta line: Violence (no gore i admit that),
eerie and sinister phenomenon 'n atmotphere's - swearing and drunkards.

What I simply want (and do you really find that unreasonable ?) an option to invite a game
friended player to chats outside the game. Simple as that !

>

As to Sarah me dear ... TY and *bows* in a pirate'd manner with me feathered hat thrown skyhigh
in dedication to you and your attitude:

I wish u gold piles aboard ur ship topped and so huge that they may sink you. I was looking for a
sane solution and hoped i could use the answer. I def can !

I have 40k i want to get rid of ingame. U want them ? - i have many a time sat down losing fortunes
in poker - i hate money cap - but at least it seems the D company listened to me wishes
and granted me new ways to waste me money. I can always relocate rep's so i can change my
reputation from being notorious to infamous.

Yes why shouldn't WE as adults don't have any rights? We DO pay real money after all.

I know that restrictions on possible adult servers may be as tight as on the kiddo servers as they
are now, and mayhaps once in awhile a kiddo slips thru to an adult server - but on the other hand
... if security is as TIGHT as it is now - i'm sure they can handle that also.

I'll try the piratesonlineforum in plain text and see whut happens. It seems that i have 4 suspensions
(pirate lives) left before i am dumped into the abyssal davy jones annihilation & oblivion locker.

Great - thanks me temporary friend.

P.s. if u want the money (or know some that need them) i can most o' the time be found on abassa
dancing around and between player ships wrecking havoc and mayhem - and after a short while
dive deep in a blaze and with style ... that's me LOL.
Feel free to disturb me and cause me lose my concentration - smiles

Dr. Zeppers 10-09-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 79636)
The game was made for children not adults

And what do you base this on? I see absolutely no facts to support your statement. Content, advertising, the POTC franchise all together. Sorry matey. Just because Disney makes alot of kids games doesnt mean this was one of them. Trix are for kids... POTC is for the family audience (this includes adults).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker (Post 79642)
Said that i read
that we adults have zero options but have to accept being treated like kids. that's a bad attitude.
If Disney is only running it's activities for kids ... they are way outta line: Violence (no gore i admit that),
eerie and sinister phenomenon 'n atmotphere's - swearing and drunkards.

I was told by a Customer Service manager that I was 13 as far as they treat all members, I repeat ALL MEMBERS. Yet they require payment from ADULTS (other than game cards). Go figure. I think this is because thier moderation staff covers all thier games, not just POTC and they havent figured out how to approach 2 different standards.

Sarah 10-09-2008 03:11 PM

You're quite welcome Capt. Don't need the gold, but will be keeping an eye out in game for ya. You can always find me with a pack of Dueces in tow. ;) Loot Hard!

Capt. Widowmaker 10-09-2008 08:16 PM

Well i guess then in have to cut a hole in me pocket, so the gold can unburden me by
leaving a trail of coins. Just hope they dump faster than my income LOL.

Well mayhaps ye can find me by following the golden trail. If ye happen to see pirates
with a gold coin above, that means that they have grabbed the values in the path of
me where'bouts - which was meant as an offer for u to follow - so ye looting party
could sniff me up. If so ... your towed party may recklessly plunder the culprits.

Sarah 10-09-2008 08:25 PM

Aye, now back to topic ;)

Edward Edgemenace 10-09-2008 09:35 PM

As an adult, I appreciate the protection that Disney offers me, by having a zero-tolerance policy regarding personal information. Honestly, I don't want to interact with any of you, outside the context of this game. I appreciate that it makes many things difficult. But I would not want them to relax that policy at all. I do not know how they technically could accomplish an adult-only server. Several theories above would get them close...but all would be rather imperfect.

What I don't understand, is why the "seven worst words" and their 100-200 common variations, are not filtered and replaced with "arrr." Any time a moderator suspends someone for inappropriate language, add that phrase to the "arrr" list.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-09-2008 10:53 PM

LOL ... > Aye, now back to topic < like: "Know ur place dog" - smiles, but ur right its too easy to go off topic.

> But I would not want them to relax that policy at all < neither do i, since i protect my own daughter just
as they do - but that won't prevent me from time to time - to talk to other people.

As to my experiences it's most likely that eventually despite all technical options a kiddo might slip thru, but as on
chat pages when people find out that a youngster found the backdoor - they are reported and kicked out.

Well the easist way around that problem is to shrug and accept facts - we pay but have no rights, and just leave the game.

But u can be sure of this: If nobody pays for playing this game it will close - i know nobody that runs a business
by being filantropists. Disney company runs a business but i dont think they run a game like this just as a service
for kids.

And besides and no people stand up and opposes to laws, authorities and dogma - NO reforms will ever be made.

It's the people that dare to speak that make the changes (i don't say that's it's always to the best, but nevertheless ...)

Back to topic ...

Edward Edgemenace 10-09-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker (Post 79762)
Back to topic ...

The fact remains, that although the idea of "adult only" servers seems good at first blush, it is an untenable prospect. And obviously not the sort of risk that Disney wants to take.

Again, they could mitigate the copious chat issues, by "arrr"-ing the comparatively short list of words and phrases they deem unacceptable.


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