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Vondarkwolf 02-15-2008 09:35 PM

The equal leveling method
 
Since I reached level 7 ive been using an equal leveling method.

Right now i am level 28
Cutlass, Pistol, Doll, Dagger, and Grenade are at level 18.

I stopped the main quest and i don't plan on picking it up again in anyway until i get my staff and re equalize my weapons.

I have noticed an immense difference in Hitpoints between myself and other people who are level 20+. Sometimes i even have double compared to them.

I have hardly spent any points and rely on just the skills that will get me the most rep points.

These are aproximate rep gains, i might be off by +/-10.

For Cutlass i use just a full combo. 1 point in each.
Killing a lvl 23 gets me 60rep.

For Pistol i just use the basic shot. 1 point
Kililng a lvl 23 gets me 50rep.

For Doll i just use Poke and Swarm. 1 point in each.
Killing a lvl 23 gets me 100rep.

For Dagger I use the 1st and 2nd attack for a combo. (pause a second after the second attack to start the combo over) 1 point in each.
Kililng a lvl 23 gets me 45rep.

For Gernades I use Explosive, Stink, and Fire. 1 point in each
Killing a lvll 23 gets me 30rep.

I have met plenty of other people who have spent alot of points to get the higher skills or upgraded these basic skills and they do not get the great gains that i do.


Doing this method has left these skills behind though.
If i had done alot of sailing and cannon work in my lower levels it would of been harder to raise my weapon skills since rep points came to easily.
My Cannon is at lvl 13 with 4 points in thunderbolt.

My Sailing is at lvl 11.

I think it is best to do the story quest sparingly, keep your weapon levels equal, don't spend all your points right away, and not do to much sailing early in the game.

Pirate Rose 02-16-2008 12:09 AM

The current pirate I'm raising, I too kept all my weapons at an even level and used skill points sparingly. I think it worked pretty well. I tried to take the story quests slow, but it's hard lol. Now I'm at the point of maxing my pirate and weaps and it was all pretty easy except for staff.

I'm starting a new pirate, and will not do any story quests until all weapons are at least level 20. Of course I'm doing the doll quests, tp quests, etc. We'll see how it goes. I call it my backwards pirate. Grind first, quest later ;)

Chris 02-16-2008 12:19 AM

grrrr i should have done that but i am now a but late i guess

Spaghettimonster 02-16-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirate Rose (Post 24992)
The current pirate I'm raising, I too kept all my weapons at an even level and used skill points sparingly. I think it worked pretty well. I tried to take the story quests slow, but it's hard lol. Now I'm at the point of maxing my pirate and weaps and it was all pretty easy except for staff.

I'm starting a new pirate, and will not do any story quests until all weapons are at least level 20. Of course I'm doing the doll quests, tp quests, etc. We'll see how it goes. I call it my backwards pirate. Grind first, quest later ;)

I'm kinda doing that (9% Black Perl and not trying).
I am working up my Doll to lv 20 first and foremost so that while I'm grinding my other weaponss up I can heal myself by using drain life.

My Doll is now lv 18
The rest of my skills are like 6-7-8, lol. I think my sailing level is something like 3 since I rerolled.

Rocko 02-16-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vondarkwolf (Post 24950)
I think it is best to do the story quest sparingly, keep your weapon levels equal, don't spend all your points right away, and not do to much sailing early in the game.

Why not spend your points? Do you get more notoriety if you do less damage per attack?

Chris 02-16-2008 02:17 PM

hopefully when i get a test account - waits for potco to accept new testers -i will not do the bp quest until all skils are lvl 24 :D

Tokrok 02-16-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 24996)
grrrr i should have done that but i am now a but late i guess

yea thats what im thinking lol... I was doing that at the beginning but then i stopped

Dukk19 02-16-2008 04:37 PM

I sort of did this with Voodoo Doll, I didn't do any story untill it was mastered.

lizziepirateprincess 02-16-2008 09:59 PM

I am now starting to even out my weapon's levels, I wont be doing the quest for a while =]

Chris 02-16-2008 11:14 PM

yea if i ever make a new pirate or get an account on test ill just forget the bp quest and work on weaps only!

Stormrunner 02-16-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vondarkwolf (Post 24950)
Right now i am level 28
Cutlass, Pistol, Doll, Dagger, and Grenade are at level 18.

For Cutlass i use just a full combo. 1 point in each.
Killing a lvl 23 gets me 60rep.

For Pistol i just use the basic shot. 1 point
Kililng a lvl 23 gets me 50rep.

For Doll i just use Poke and Swarm. 1 point in each.
Killing a lvl 23 gets me 100rep.

For Dagger I use the 1st and 2nd attack for a combo. (pause a second after the second attack to start the combo over) 1 point in each.
Kililng a lvl 23 gets me 45rep.

For Gernades I use Explosive, Stink, and Fire. 1 point in each
Killing a lvll 23 gets me 30rep.

I think it is best to do the story quest sparingly, keep your weapon levels equal, don't spend all your points right away, and not do to much sailing early in the game.

I'm Level 34. Most of my weapons are between 20-22 ('cept Grenades and Staff). My sailing is at Level 17. I finished the story quest when I was around Level 24. I have not assigned all my skill points on all my weapons, but neither have I been "stingy" with them.

Yet, I get rep numbers just like what you've posted -- and have been all along. Granted, since I'm Level 34, I now need to kill enemies in the mid- to high 20s -- but I could probably still pull 100 rep from a Level 23 using my Doll if I tried.

Spaghettimonster 02-17-2008 04:48 AM

Leveling your Doll to 20 as fast as possible is really good advice for making the leveling your other weapons easier.

I'm not Notoriety lvl 18 and my doll skill is at 20 (when drain life unlocks).
(Leveled my doll from 8-20 in 6 hours of really trying!)
I started saving skill points when my doll hit level 15 so that I could max drain life.

I'm leveling my cutlass and dagger next and it's sooooooooo easy with drain life. You never have to stop and go get pots or wait for your life to regen.

Vondarkwolf 02-17-2008 06:15 AM

Aye if your semi stingy as long as you leave the necessary skills low you will get the gains you need.

The doll seems to be the easiest.

Though from what ive read if i had put more points into poke and swarm i would not be getting the 100 rep.

I level my weapons in this order

Dagger
Pistol
Grenade
Cutlass
Doll

Generally i gain a level in notoriety during the cutlass stage.

I am now level 29 with 19 levels in all my weapon skills.

Here's hoping for a speedy 20 in weapons. ^^

Angel 02-17-2008 12:26 PM

Right now i am level 37, (almost 38)

Cutlass, Pistol, Dagger Staff are all lvl 21. Doll mastered, and Grenades are at level 20.

Heres what I've found for the best reps for everything (Also dont forget to crew up for 10% more reps, yes works for land too):

For Cutlass, button mashing is the best (Less skill points the best). Best to save skill points instead of powering up weapons for best reps. The higher the attack, the faster the kill, the less the reps.


For Pistol i just use the basic shot. 1 point
Do not use take aim, standard shot and just shoot. Take aim makes a more powerful shot and kills faster = less reps.

For Doll i just use Poke and Swarm. You can also just heal others that battle and that gives you great reps. Alternate with your friends, they attack one u get the other, and heal eachother.

For Dagger I've found max reps come from throwing daggers. On stumps I use 1-4 mostly and get 110 reps in crew. That or button mashing.
Kililng a lvl 30 Stump gets me 110 rep.

For Gernades Smoke is the best for reps. Back beach of padres, Gypsies and grenaiders. Killing a lvll 25 gets me 70 to 80 rep. If you dont have smoke, start off at Kingshead and use #1 shot with one dot in the center croud. take a healer to start off until you get the hang of it. 6 vets can net you from 10-20 reps each.

Staff, start out on the giant crabs on Diftwood. Get the #2 shot, and then go crazy on that. Only use 1 dot per skill. SAVE THEM FOR THE PASSIVES ON BOTTOM. I cannot stress that enough. This helps on doll as well. The #5 IMO is a waste, I've never used it but once. Unfortunately my mistake and I lost 2 points on it by accidently double clickin on it. The #2 wil give u the best reps out of all, flame and Wither.

Hope thats helped.

P.S. if your a low lvl, go to the Giant crabs on Driftwood and stand in teh water for attack. Start off on one weapon, switch mid way to another. I did this when I was smaLler and went through 3 weapons for a total of 283 reps (max 110 crewed per weapon used).

Chris 02-17-2008 02:43 PM

umm just ta let u know looks like they will fix the crabs on driftwood when the next update comes bc they fixed them with the last update on test

RemiBoncoeur 02-17-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel (Post 25236)
Right now i am level 37, (almost 38)

Cutlass, Pistol, Dagger Staff are all lvl 21. Doll mastered, and Grenades are at level 20.

Heres what I've found for the best reps for everything (Also dont forget to crew up for 10% more reps, yes works for land too):

For Cutlass, button mashing is the best (Less skill points the best). Best to save skill points instead of powering up weapons for best reps. The higher the attack, the faster the kill, the less the reps.


For Pistol i just use the basic shot. 1 point
Do not use take aim, standard shot and just shoot. Take aim makes a more powerful shot and kills faster = less reps.

For Doll i just use Poke and Swarm. You can also just heal others that battle and that gives you great reps. Alternate with your friends, they attack one u get the other, and heal eachother.

For Dagger I've found max reps come from throwing daggers. On stumps I use 1-4 mostly and get 110 reps in crew. That or button mashing.
Kililng a lvl 30 Stump gets me 110 rep.

For Gernades Smoke is the best for reps. Back beach of padres, Gypsies and grenaiders. Killing a lvll 25 gets me 70 to 80 rep. If you dont have smoke, start off at Kingshead and use #1 shot with one dot in the center croud. take a healer to start off until you get the hang of it. 6 vets can net you from 10-20 reps each.

Staff, start out on the giant crabs on Diftwood. Get the #2 shot, and then go crazy on that. Only use 1 dot per skill. SAVE THEM FOR THE PASSIVES ON BOTTOM. I cannot stress that enough. This helps on doll as well. The #5 IMO is a waste, I've never used it but once. Unfortunately my mistake and I lost 2 points on it by accidently double clickin on it. The #2 wil give u the best reps out of all, flame and Wither.

Hope thats helped.

P.S. if your a low lvl, go to the Giant crabs on Driftwood and stand in teh water for attack. Start off on one weapon, switch mid way to another. I did this when I was smaLler and went through 3 weapons for a total of 28
3 reps (max 110 crewed per weapon used).



For pistol, I actually found that using take aim gives more rep... but only if you start it, but shoot it as quickly as possible once it starts building up power. At that point, it does about as much as the basic shot, but I think the game considers it a more powerful (read: rep-worthy) attack.

BDusel 02-18-2008 06:26 AM

All you have to do to get 110 exp PER victim (usually any red level enemy), is attune multiple targets (I have 4 in it), and just poke/swarm/scorch away! Takes a bit, but just run around and none will have a chance to attack you. When you're done, if you have a crew, you get 440 exp. FAST way to level up the doll and notoriety. I spent no more than an hour at Kingshead, and between Veterans and Officers, I went from level 8 Voodoo Doll to level 19.

Enjoy!

Angel 02-18-2008 07:22 AM

Warning, having the doll mastered sux!! Thats the funest thing to use and when you no longer get reps, it takes the fun out of it lol.

Vondarkwolf 02-18-2008 03:30 PM

Well two of my weapons are 20 now and the other ones are 19 right now and rising. I should have them set to 20 just in time to level to get lvl 30 notoriety.

I'm thinking of spending my skill points at that time but im not sure yet.

I plan on using the doll on a nearly purely support weapon for healing others and myself.

Pirate Rose 02-18-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vondarkwolf (Post 25435)
Well two of my weapons are 20 now and the other ones are 19 right now and rising. I should have them set to 20 just in time to level to get lvl 30 notoriety.

I'm thinking of spending my skill points at that time but im not sure yet.

I plan on using the doll on a nearly purely support weapon for healing others and myself.


I wouldn't spend skill points until weaps are mastered. It gets harder to level once your notoriety and weaps get high.

I'm not spending my points on Treasurerat till summer. I want to see what new skills if any, are available with the update.

Spaghettimonster 02-18-2008 06:04 PM

Do they refund skill points when they release new skills or make major skill changes?

If not, they should! :pirate6:

Hile 02-19-2008 05:36 PM

I pretty sure they won't. However I think it'd be nice if they implemented a quest where you could then swap skill points.

Vondarkwolf 02-23-2008 04:52 AM

Finally reached lvl 20 in all my weapons a bit more exp and ill hit 30 notoriety and get my staff finally. Havent really found much info on this weapon though.

Using this method though is really helping even with my stingy point spending, im at over 1400hp now and i still pass people who are around my level with half the hp as me.

Gotta say though i'm seeing more and more of those jerks that tend to inhabit rpgs. I hate having someone who starts attacking my kills and then freaking stalks me when i run around the island. This would be fine in its self but they refuse to say a darn thing when you try chatting with them. I mean atleast say HI.

I have fun with stalkers now though, i just run around and move in such a way that they will run right into as many enemies as i can get attached to them as possible. Then they either die or just leave.

I did have one that seemed to know a trick. He was able to pull an enemie and somehow get it to disengage and then it would start attacking me. Has anyone heard of this?

Hile 02-25-2008 04:49 PM

Keep in mind if the person has a child account, you will not be able to hear or speak to him unless you are a true friend.

Sounds tricky, but yea if you get far enough away from a creature, it will disengage. If he happens to disengage near you I guess he'll start attacking you.

RoseS 02-27-2008 01:38 AM

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The higher the attack, the faster the kill, the less the reps.
Okay. But what's the point? If you kill faster, you can kill more. If you can do more damage in less time, you can kill higher level mobs that otherwise would kill you first.

One of my guildmates loves to board higher level ships, which often leaves us scrambling for our lives. Last night I was being chased by a higer level hired gun who was throwing knives at me while I used my doll. Higher damage with poke, swarm, scorch and curse was the only reason he died and not me. There's more fun in that kind of challenge, IMO.

Vondarkwolf 02-27-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RoseS (Post 27301)
Okay. But what's the point? If you kill faster, you can kill more. If you can do more damage in less time, you can kill higher level mobs that otherwise would kill you first.


It just depends on how you want to receive your gains. Kill a few enemies and get a lot of rep or kill tons of enemies to get the same rep. I would rather kill one enemies and spend the small amount of extra time to get higher gains and get 100rep. Then kill the same enemies with maxed skills and get 5-10rep.

Right now i am level 30, all my weapons are at lvl 20 except for staff which is at lvl 10 right now. I'm pulling 45rep off of lvl 23's with the staff right now. My weapons have anywhere from 12 -17 free points right now. Doing it this way also allows you to spend your points to better efficiency so you can spend them on higher level skills rather then maxing the lower ranking ones that ive seen many people do. I may switch to your method of leveling when all my weapons are at level 20, im not sure yet.

RoseS 02-29-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vondarkwolf (Post 27483)
It just depends on how you want to receive your gains. Kill a few enemies and get a lot of rep or kill tons of enemies to get the same rep. I would rather kill one enemies and spend the small amount of extra time to get higher gains and get 100rep. Then kill the same enemies with maxed skills and get 5-10rep.

I would rather switch to higher level enemies instead. You take the same amount of time you're taking to kill the trivial mobs. I can still get good rep even with a partner (which greatly reduces down time because you can heal each other when needed) and I think its more fun to challenge higher level mobs. It's also more profitable.

I uderstand the problem that some of the lower level skills are not worth spending points on since there is a limit. But I aslo think thats more of a flaw in the game... we should be able to do a quest that effectively forgets some skills so we can learn others instead.

Vondarkwolf 03-01-2008 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RoseS (Post 28183)
I would rather switch to higher level enemies instead. You take the same amount of time you're taking to kill the trivial mobs. I can still get good rep even with a partner (which greatly reduces down time because you can heal each other when needed) and I think its more fun to challenge higher level mobs. It's also more profitable.

I uderstand the problem that some of the lower level skills are not worth spending points on since there is a limit. But I aslo think thats more of a flaw in the game... we should be able to do a quest that effectively forgets some skills so we can learn others instead.

Aye this is a time when i wish skill point reset was possible. If anything allow us to reset once. I'll defiantly concede both methods certainly work. I have been considering changing to the other method once i get all my weapon skills to 20. Right now i just need 7 more levels in staff and ill be ready to decide. My other thought is that once i reach 20 in my weapons i will raise the weapons that are hard to raise/ weapons i don't like to 25 and then spend my points and switch methods.


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