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Captain Del 06-16-2011 10:32 PM

Let's Try This Again, Shall We?
 
Pirates, Guildmasters, Boatswains, lend me your ears!

I'm sure you all remember the little gathering of guilds that this site maintained way back in September. Perhaps a little thing called The Pirate Conclave?

Alright alright alright, enough with the gasps of horror and disgust! I come here on much better terms!

Out of general bickering, confusion, and inactivity, the Conclave was forced to close for the betterment of society as a whole. This came after a very shaky and jumbled start, only followed by a more chaotic and conspiratorial period of anarchy (or Oligarchy, whichever word you prefer.) So, the members of the Conclave came to a decision to shut it down just to make our lives easier. However, one of my final opinions on the subject sits just below me:

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Maybe this plan could be revised and recreated in the future, when we have more support and a better pre-plan. But for now, I'm standing my ground when I state that the Conclave will be officially closing, based on a major concensus by the guilds of said Conclave.
And to the most part, there were many people back then who agreed that this could be pulled off very well with enough prior preparation, coupled with plenty of time, and a strong leadership. And as time passed and people began to final forget about the Conclave, I still remember my idea - and with your help, I intend to keep it.

It's in my hopes that with the help of guilds across the Caribbean that I will once again be able to establish this gathering, with a fresher and cleaner face than before. You and I rightfully know that if we put the greatest minds in the Caribbean to work on this matter, then nothing can stop it from becoming a great, great thing.

Of course, you're probably asking, "Why should I join this just so it can fail again?" Well, Debbie Downer, the thing about this is that I'm going to do my best to make sure this doesn't fail, by learning off the past mistakes of the old Conclave. Here are a few changes to the premise.

1. We are actually going to put some thought in to this. The point of this thread is so that you, the potential future members, can have a say in how this will turn out when we go through with this.

2. No dictatorships, oligarchies, monarchies, or regimes - just a simple, concrete leadership. The problem with the old Conclave was that there was a sort of power struggle going on inside of it. And as we all know, when the leaders don't have any room to do anything, nothing gets done.

However, this time around, we're going to go nice and simple - a head leader (myself) who will be advised and supported by the guilds within the group. And no, you don't have to worry about me going on a power trip and controlling everything in sight - because really, what personal gain would I get? A heap-load of problems I don't need nor want? No thanks. :laughks2:

3. We're going to make sure we have dedicated members before we start storming out in to the Caribbean. Last time, we gathered a small group of initial members, hoping they would stay on the ride and follow it - and guess where that got us? :mybadki6:

This time around, we're going to make sure we have a large group of already active guilds, so we can make sure we get off the ground, and stay there. Dedication and patience is key, after all.

4. We're doing this not for personal gain, or for power or reputation - we're doing this to unite the Caribbean. Last time, it seemed as though the only thing that was wanted out of the Conclave was being able to say "I'm apart of this lololololol." That's not our goal.

The dream of this gathering is to bring together the guilds of the Caribbean under a single, communicable roof. No cliques, no strictness, and plenty of breathing room - the point of this is to make a guild feel warm amongst their fellow guilds, and that they can have a good time.

And how exactly will you unite the Caribbean? My Little Pony and Buttons?

While I'm not saying that My Little Pony wouldn't unite the Caribbean (Rainbow Dash FTW,) the overall scheme of this will, of course, focus on regular events that MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND. However, it will serve, this time around, a bigger purpose than that.

It's in my hopes that this gathering can also be used as a way for guilds who have never met to start communicating, getting to know each other, and perhaps begin pirating about with each other. It's going to be much more involved and helpful as it was before, while at the same time being enjoyable.

Please, discuss. I want to hear a lot of discussion (that hopefully doesn't stray from the site rules) so we can set this up the way YOU, the pirates of the Caribbean, want it.

Captain Sharktooth 06-16-2011 10:50 PM

Ah yes, I remember this....

I'd join... Course, I'm not a Gm.....

The Stealthy Pirate 06-16-2011 11:13 PM

Meh, Im not sure since I wasnt here, but I did look it up and it looked like it didnt go so well... so im not sure. @_@

The Skirata Clan 06-16-2011 11:17 PM

I had such a hard and bad experience from the one after that. But count me in to help out if needed.

Tiberius Fireskull 06-16-2011 11:36 PM

I still remember all the stuff that happened back last time we tried to do this...

I am reluctant to join, but I know that you cannot do this alone, Del. So I think I'll take a leap of faith, or die an old man filled with regret... I've been watching too much Inception.

You can count me in, mate. I'll be glad to help out in making The Conclave II (or whatever we'll call it) great. This time, I think we can succeed.

Jello743 06-16-2011 11:55 PM

You guys should have like an Inner Circle. Because with one leader stuff gets out of hand. With the circle they can decisions and stuff. Again this is my opinion...

WeirdBeard 06-17-2011 12:09 AM

Is this a guild? Or just a group, not a real guild?

The Stealthy Pirate 06-17-2011 12:12 AM

If I understand correctly, this is a guild made up of guilds.

The Skirata Clan 06-17-2011 01:56 AM

It's a group of guilds. Not really a guild of guilds.

Slasher 06-17-2011 03:53 AM

Well. I believe I would like to partake. Del, it seems you have put very much thought into this, so since you did so much, count me in!

Chris Ironhawk 06-17-2011 07:12 AM

I am looking forward to being a part of this... By being an active member of the Partners, I really have no choice but to join... But I plan to play an active role in this... I know that anything that Del invests time in ought to be good!

But I just want to reiterate something that Del has said. One of the main reasons why the Conclave failed was that people were just "standing around and waiting for things to happen." That was a major mistake. If this is going to work, we, as members of the group, are expected to play an ACTIVE role in the construction of this group. We can have the group, and the leader, and the upper ranks... But what really matters, in any situation really, is the other guys... The members... They are the ones that make everything happen...

The road on this journey shall be tough- we have to come up with everything from scratch- but as long as we each play a role in the creation of this, we can make this work... We just need to go... One step at a time....

I wish all guilds taking part in this journey luck...

~Chris Ironhawk
PNC Officer

Dark_Pixie 06-17-2011 11:07 AM

With you all the way, Del.

Captain Del 06-17-2011 01:51 PM

For the purpose of filing records, I'm going to ask that all of those pirates/guilds who wished to be involved in the new court please answer this application, and return it to me by posting here in full.

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Your Main Pirate's Name:
Name of Prospective Guild:
Approximate Date of Creation:
Number of Members:

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?


- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.


Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
Remember, this is just an early draft of the application form, and will only serve it's purpose until we actually open this all up.

In the meantime, I need you all to begin spreading the word. Find any guild and pirate you can get your hands on, and lead them over to this thread. I need your help, pirates!

Dark_Pixie 06-17-2011 02:39 PM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Misty
Name of Prospective Guild: The Silent Force
Approximate Date of Creation: November 28th, 2010 (exact date)
Number of Members: 21

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
Yes.

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.

I would go to all ends of the Caribbean to make this work. I will be forever loyal to this, and will love every minute that I'll get to spend with other guilds.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
I promise.

If I haven't given the sort of answers you were looking for, or misunderstood anything, do tell me and I'll fix it.

Marry The Night 06-17-2011 10:54 PM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Alice Darkbane
Name of Prospective Guild: Partners N Crime
Approximate Date of Creation: June 15th, 2009
Number of Members: 182

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
No.

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)

I think this counts.

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...us/Consent.png

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.

As much as I love Debbie Downer (we're bffs), I'll be loyal and serve this conclave to the best of my ability, and attend all events/meetings.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?

I do.

Captain Del 06-17-2011 11:50 PM

Thank you to Pixie for being so quick in applying for the Court. You have been thusly added to the preliminary body.

...And thank you to Alice for submitting my own guild. Not so sure if to approve or not... ;)

Please, all others interested should sign up as soon as possible, so we can properly plan and organize this all.

Ofury/ Tom 06-18-2011 05:28 AM

Your Main Pirate's Name:Tom O'fury
Name of Prospective Guild: O'fury's Court
Approximate Date of Creation:July 4th 2009
Number of Members:371

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
Yes

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
Whatever ya need O'fury's Court can back ya. Wether it be leading, graphic art, Site managing, etc. We can help.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
Of course me mate!

Tiberius Fireskull 06-18-2011 06:52 AM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Tiberius Fireskull
Name of Prospective Guild: Shadow Sorcerors
Approximate Date of Creation: July 31st, 2009
Number of Members: Hovering around 350's.

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?

Yes.

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.

I'll be an avid contributor to The Conclave II (or whatever its gonna be called...) and will make sure that everything is going smoothly. I will assist the Conclave leader and any high council that may be created with whatever is needed... except rum related issues.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?

No! Okay yes. :P

If I may also make the request, I know there were some issues with people that were NOT guildmasters or Conclave Representatives coming to watch the meetings. With all due respect, I would prefer if the people who did come to the meetings would be Guildmasters and Highest officers only (Co-guildmasters, etc.) be there. This way it is just between the people that are actually in the Conclave. I understand that it is supposed to be a union of all guilds, but we should keep it at just the leaders for numbers sake and to make sure that we don't get a lot of people that shouldn't really be there.

andyspins 06-18-2011 02:55 PM

Let me start off by saying that I most likely will be th only one from my guild there, we only have 2 people on the forums, and one is also in SS, but I will try:

Your Main Pirate's Name:Captain Andy
Name of Prospective Guild:Lion Hearted Pirate
Approximate Date of Creation: December 14th 2008
Number of Members:40

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
Yes

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)
See Above

Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
I will attend meetings (whenever I can), get as many of my guildies to join as possible, and submit my ideas of how to unite the carribean.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
Yes

Ofury/ Tom 06-18-2011 07:45 PM

What was the problem last time i believe was that we had no clear goal. Everyone was taking the goal a different way and was very confused on what we planned to do. So as a group of guilds what do we plan to do?

Captain Del 06-20-2011 05:12 PM

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If I may also make the request, I know there were some issues with people that were NOT guildmasters or Conclave Representatives coming to watch the meetings. With all due respect, I would prefer if the people who did come to the meetings would be Guildmasters and Highest officers only (Co-guildmasters, etc.) be there. This way it is just between the people that are actually in the Conclave. I understand that it is supposed to be a union of all guilds, but we should keep it at just the leaders for numbers sake and to make sure that we don't get a lot of people that shouldn't really be there.
Yes, that is going to be one of our principle initiatives, as usually the involvement of the leader brings in his or her herd as well, per say. In order for a guild to stay as a member of this gathering, the Guildmaster or Highest Ranking Officer(s) of the guild will have to remain regularly active in attending events and meetings. The only reason a representative is needed is so that I have somebody that I can contact easily should any problems arise.

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What was the problem last time i believe was that we had no clear goal. Everyone was taking the goal a different way and was very confused on what we planned to do. So as a group of guilds what do we plan to do?
Unlike last time, where the goal of the Conclave was to each of his own, we all have a set, definite goal this time around - to establish a network of guilds that will bring about a stronger, more interactive community for all pirates in the near future. This will on in the form of intermingling across many mediums of communication (as well as a forum site dedicated to this all, which will act as the headquarters/"middle ground") as well as creating a fun environment through many large and diverse events, meant to bring to pirates a sense of a higher purpose.

Also, Tom, I know you wanted me to outline the basic premises of the gathering that will spark all necessary discussion, so I'm going to that right here. Anything that may need to be discussed or devised, you can find a rough draft of below.

Basic Rules - The Future "Pirata Codex"

- Respect your fellow guilds! Pirates are expected to act appropriately around their fellow guilds, regardless of any personal issues you may have against a certain guild, or people within a guild. Any form of fighting, griefing, or other violent actions between two or more guilds may result in all guilds involved being banned or removed from the gathering, regardless of who started the discrepancy. If trouble should arise, it should be reported to me immediately.

- Guilds who join the gathering should remain regularly, if not always active. Joining this gathering should not be seen so much as a privilege as it is an honor, and it should be treated as such. Guilds who join should be regularly active in topic discussion on given sites and forums, as well as at ingame meetings and events. The Guildmasters/Highest Attending Officer(s) of a guild are also expected to regularly be involved! Periods of extended inactivity within the gathering without a valid reason (such as vacations, inner guild problems, etc.) defined by numerous weeks in a row, or sporadic activity, may result in questioning of membership.

- The gathering is not to become subject to political manipulation, agendas, or certain self-righteous goals. If a pirate/guild is suspected of trying to take advantage of membership within the gathering, or certain aspects of their membership, in order to benefit themselves or their guild over others, that pirate and their guild, or that guild in itself, may have it's membership questioned.

- Inner or outer guild disputes should not be carried over in to the boundaries of this court. The space provided for you by this gathering (in the form of forums, ingame meetings, etc.) is to ensure your guild may interact and prosperous alongside your fellow guilds. Causing unnecessary "drama" by leaking personal matters in to the confines of this court may lead your guild's membership become subject to questioning, or reprimandation.

- The disruption of sanctioned events by pirates within a guild may result in the reprimandation or elimination of a guild from the gathering, based on the severeness or continuation of the offense(s.) Guildmaster/Guild Officers are expected to privately yet immediately reprimand pirates who "act out," per say, while avoiding escalation.

- The court reserves the right to question a member guild's morale based on actions, or the actions of their members, outside of the gathering itself, based on evidence of lack of proper behavior around their fellow pirates, or towards fellow pirates. Should a guild be found unfit in terms of upholding an honorable stature, based upon a general consensus among other member guilds, they then maybe be subject to elimination from the gathering.

[Of course, these rules will be more organized and prettied up in terms of when we actually create an official thread, but for now the above GENERAL principles should be discussed. Do not focus on minor details, but instead the overall spectrum of ideas.]

Events

Events will focus on, as I stated above, giving a pirate the sense of community and being, while remaining fun and interactive.

Events will be held on both weekly and monthly bases, which often revolve around games and contests on larger scales, so they can accommodate a large number of pirates (think Feats of Strength Races, Blockades, Fleets, Ship Races, and other hullabaloo.) Events will often reflect what's going on in the Caribbean at the time - for example, if Lord Beckett begins to call out more treasure fleets, we may hold events which focus on plundering and pillaging EITC ships/fleets. We will also, of course, hold various events and parties that reflect holidays, as well as monthly contests/tournaments.

Along with this, guilds within the court are also welcome to and encouraged hold their own events within the court, so long as they do not conflict with official court events/meetings.

Ingame meetings will be held usually on a two-to-three week basis, yet often they will called off if there is simply nothing that needs to be discussed (the one thing I hate is unnecessary meetings.) Meetings may also be sometimes held before an event, as a way to kill two birds with one stone, per say.

Applications for Membership

Right now, the application we plan to use is the one which I posted on the first page of this thread, though changes and edits to it may be on the table if necessary.

After a guild applies, they will be put under a probation period of about 1 month. In this time, they are expected to act as full members of the court, partaking in discussions, attending meetings, and participating in events. Over this time they will be observed in terms of how many members from their guild attends events, how active they are, and overall how they act and interact with others.

At the end of their probationary period, members within the court will be called to vote on their membership. In order for a guild to gain entry, the vote must be an "Aye" from a minimum of 3/4ths of the voting guilds. After the first, preliminary vote, (which does not necessarily count, as it just gives an idea of pre-discussion opinions) the opposing sides of the discussion will voice their opinions, and then vote again.

Leadership/Organization/Roles

Alongside the roles of certain pirates in this court, we may also have certain special roles that need fulfillment:

Keeper of the Code - the basic "overseer" of all going-ons within the court, responsible for managing and organizing events, filing guild applications, keeping order and process over in-game meetings, and overall making sure that everything runs smoothly. Interprets and updates the rules, and makes sure that the guidelines of the court are followed, while making sure there is room for human reasoning. This role will be filled by myself.

Guildmasters/Representatives - the governing body. They are each responsible for their own guild, and are there to voice their opinion in the representation of their guild. They vote on subjects at hand within the court, and make sure that their guild and it's members are happy and enjoying their time within the court.

Scribe - Responsible for keeping records of everything that goes on and is said at meetings. This position may rotate between people each meeting, though it may eventually be decided to be appointed.

Judges/Referees - Will help myself in watching over events to make sure they run smoothly, and in order. These roles will often be asked to be filled when an event arises where they are necessary.

Event Planner - Responsible for formulating and testing ideas for games, events, and contests which may be held in the future of the court. They may also be asked at times to organize an event, and should be creative enough to do so in a fun, interactive, and attractive way. They are also responsible for helping in the execution of an event. *This job will be filled when deemed necessary.*

The Sailmaker(s) - Design/banner creators, event photographers, video creators, and other roles which will be responsible for advertising the court.


And finally, we come to the matter of discussing a name.

I want to try and sticking to the pirate theme, while not coming up with something like "The Conclave II." I myself went cruising a little, and came up with a few possible names:

The Order of the Brethren
Brethren of the Coast
Pirate Council
Pirate Confederation of the Caribbean (a little too long, in my opinion)

My personal favorite is the "Order," though other recommendations and opinions are welcome.

So, please discuss every issue I just brought up. I want everything thought over, so that way we all can go in to this knowing we aren't blind-folded.

Ofury/ Tom 06-20-2011 05:26 PM

It all sounds good to me. I'd like to help out in the creation of our own forums. I have taken a great interest in running and creating sites so I'm getting to learn alot about the coding behind it. I would not be an expert though so I wouldn't be able to code it without someone else helping me :D. I can most certainly help though. We could called ourselves the PCC (Pirates Confederation of the Caribbean)

Slasher 06-20-2011 06:17 PM

Really do wish I could join. Just afraid that our guild is too small. But I will try to help as much as I can. Especially when we get more members.

Your Main Pirate's Name: Richard Hexbowers
Name of Prospective Guild: The Midnite Clan
Approximate Date of Creation: 'Bout June 14, 2011
Number of Members: 3 ( :( )

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
Yes.

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
I will try my best to be at the meetings, along with sending my fellow GM's. I will try to do what I can in my reaches to help the Conclave..


Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
I swear the pirates swear that I will xD

Captain Del 06-20-2011 07:01 PM

Size does not necessarily matter, as long as you are prepared to help us work towards uniting the Caribbean. As long as you and your guild are quality pirates, and are dedicated, we should have no problem in taking your crew aboard :)

Tiberius Fireskull 06-20-2011 07:56 PM

Are we allowed to request a position? Because I would be more than happy to be the Keeper of the Code. And for the name... I have no clue. I'm fine with pretty much any name, honestly. I do like the Order of the Brethren, though. Also, how will you be deciding the little leading Court? Will you allow applications and then choose the people you believe will be fit best, or will it be first come first serve?

Captain Del 06-20-2011 08:31 PM

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Are we allowed to request a position? Because I would be more than happy to be the Keeper of the Code. And for the name... I have no clue. I'm fine with pretty much any name, honestly. I do like the Order of the Brethren, though. Also, how will you be deciding the little leading Court? Will you allow applications and then choose the people you believe will be fit best, or will it be first come first serve?
For the time being, with the size of the court and all, I will serve as the lone Keeper - of course, as time goes on and we grow, I will look for others to help.

I'll be looking over all the applications, but a little less hard on them, so I can help set up a main base of members. Once we start this all up officially, we will then begin a much more extensive membership course.

Also, please remember that once this court begins, the base members will NOT serve as a higher court - we will all be on an equal level. All they have that is special is the respect of helping found this association.

Captain Sharktooth 06-20-2011 10:45 PM

I'll sign up for a position... when the time comes. I'd be happy being the Scribe.

andyspins 06-21-2011 12:43 AM

Question: Do the first few guilds that join have to be on probation? You cant't really vote without members mate.

Name I like: I like the Council one and the Confederation one.

Job I Would Like: I'm a GM, but I'd like to be a judge first, and a video maker second, but I am very bad at banners. If I can't get a job I want thats ok (these are requests of course NOT demands)

Idea: What if we had a recruitment center, all members put in tags of what their guild is like (example: easy going, strict, easy promotions, large, etc.) and people wanting a guild can go and reveiw it to find the guild that is best for them, but only on the forum, so people dont lose recruits in-game.

Also please forgive my guild if at first event attendence is sparce, we recently restarted and aren't very organized yet, but thats my (more than) two cents.

Chris Ironhawk 06-21-2011 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom (Post 331965)
It all sounds good to me. I'd like to help out in the creation of our own forums. I have taken a great interest in running and creating sites so I'm getting to learn alot about the coding behind it. I would not be an expert though so I wouldn't be able to code it without someone else helping me :D. I can most certainly help though. We could called ourselves the PCC (Pirates Confederation of the Caribbean)

I prefer not to code sites for this, mainly because that is too much work to put into something like this... I would be more than happy to Admin a site with you. I admin the site for the Sorcerors, too. I prefer to use SMF, because it is free, and we have things to start off with. I have experience with them, as well. We can start the site as soon as we have a name.

As far as the site goes, we would leave it for open registering for all members of the Court, but we would have restricted sections for the Reps.

Also, we need no more than three Admins, so Del, you and I should be enough. We shall begin as soon as we have a name approved.

Del, all of this is alright with you, yes?

Captain Del 06-21-2011 02:35 AM

Guilds who sign up before the official launch will not go through a probation stage, but instead will be watched personally by myself to see if they are fit to stay in here. After this all starts up officially, the registration process I gave above will begin.

And yes, Chris. I'm very familiar with SMF, and I know that it's very easy to use and organize, so I would be comfortable with that as our forum choice. However, we need to realize this site must be customizable (I want a site that would be able to relatively circle around a "pirate" theme) and ready to fit dozens of pirates, so perhaps you and Tom should discuss in private which type of forum would be able to fit these needs, and then tell me when you both have made a decision.

And please remember to voice your opinion on a name ASAP, as we really need to get that done if we want to start this up.

andyspins 06-21-2011 03:09 AM

In the spirit of ideas I have, you guessed it, an idea! I was thinking we might want to have two weekly meetings, one in the week, one on the weekend, so people who do things on the weekend can still come, and so can people busy in the week.

Chris Ironhawk 06-21-2011 03:36 AM

For names, I like the "Oder of the Brethren." I think that it gets across what we are trying to do, as well as the fact that it is short and concise. :)

Slasher 06-21-2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Del (Post 331970)
Size does not necessarily matter, as long as you are prepared to help us work towards uniting the Caribbean. As long as you and your guild are quality pirates, and are dedicated, we should have no problem in taking your crew aboard :)


Thanks. Was just a bit worried there.

Captain Del 06-21-2011 04:13 PM

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In the spirit of ideas I have, you guessed it, an idea! I was thinking we might want to have two weekly meetings, one in the week, one on the weekend, so people who do things on the weekend can still come, and so can people busy in the week.
Again, I reiterate that we will not be having meetings for not apparent reason here. The one thing that a lot of people were not very happy about in the Brethren Court was the fact there were meetings every week, when most of them had no purpose behind them. We're only keeping meetings to when they are necessary.

Also, please remember that right now, new ideas are NOT needed. What we need to cover now is everything I put up in that big long post - rules, applications, events, and a name. I assure you once we start everything up, I'll designate an area in the court dedicated to suggestions.

And as for the name, it seems like it's come down to the Confederation and the Order. It seems that we're leaning towards Order, though, which is my own personal opinion - the Order sounds a lot more united and singular, while Confederation sounds very bureaucratic and governmental. But, I'll wait just a day or two more before I lay the nail down on the name. (Unless you all make an agreement sooner than that.)

andyspins 06-21-2011 05:01 PM

Ok, meetings only when needed make sense, like I said, I would like to be judge.

Dark_Pixie 06-21-2011 09:21 PM

I think the Order is a better name, because as you said before, the Confederation is a little long. :)

About positions... all of them sound like I could manage them, so I'll let you decide. You're the boss.

Captain Del 06-21-2011 09:31 PM

Alright, because Chris and Tom are going to start work on the site tomorrow, I need a name by tonight. By general majority, if there are no more objections, we will be going with the Order of the Brethren as our name.

andyspins 06-21-2011 09:49 PM

Works for me mate!

Ofury/ Tom 06-21-2011 10:11 PM

Sounds good. Now we just have to make that name worth something!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Del (Post 332144)
Alright, because Chris and Tom are going to start work on the site tomorrow, I need a name by tonight. By general majority, if there are no more objections, we will be going with the Order of the Brethren as our name.

Does that mean Chris and I are Sailmakers? xD

Oh and I can make a wiki for us too.. Later on..

Captain Del 06-21-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom (Post 332151)
Does that mean Chris and I are Sailmakers? xD

Oh and I can make a wiki for us too.. Later on..

Aye, for right now (and more than likely for a long time forward) you two will be our Site Sailmakers.

And it seems that the consensus has spoke - our official name is now the Order of the Brethren!

With our name down and our site in the works, I want us to focus on our rules. Everybody, reread them when you can and figure if you think anything should change.

Ofury/ Tom 06-21-2011 10:59 PM

Well i think we need to be a little more strict on who can join. We don't want alot of first starting guilds coming then they decide they don't want to be guilds anymore.. Not to go against to go against numbers though either. Maybe a guild has to be a certain age to join?

Captain Del 06-22-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom (Post 332161)
Well i think we need to be a little more strict on who can join. We don't want alot of first starting guilds coming then they decide they don't want to be guilds anymore.. Not to go against to go against numbers though either. Maybe a guild has to be a certain age to join?

I'm not going to set a certain age of a guild to be met, but age will still be one of the factors we will look at very closely. Some form of experience and dedication to one's guild will be a prime factor in guild acceptance.

If anybody has anything to add, please speak up.

Also, for reference, guilds who have been approved are as followed:

Partners N Crime
The Silent Force
O'fury's Court
Shadow Sorcerors
Lion Hearted Pirate
The Midnite Clan (due to current guild size and age, this guild will be put on probationary status once the Order starts up.)

Guildmasters, once everything is finalized, you will be receiving a PM concerning the site for the Order, graciously set up by Tom and Chris.

andyspins 06-22-2011 07:33 PM

I thinl there should be a set number of times in a row you are absent before you are put in question, therefor it is based on fact, not opinion when someone is put in question because of that. Just my thinking.

Chris Ironhawk 06-22-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyspins (Post 332343)
I thinl there should be a set number of times in a row you are absent before you are put in question, therefor it is based on fact, not opinion when someone is put in question because of that. Just my thinking.

I think that this is a VERY good idea! I would say if you consecutively miss two meetings, and you have not posted a leave of absence thread, then your membership shall be questioned...

Captain Del 06-22-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Ironhawk (Post 332347)
I think that this is a VERY good idea! I would say if you consecutively miss two meetings, and you have not posted a leave of absence thread, then your membership shall be questioned...

That would work. 2 consecutive absences would lead to primary questioning, and then a final chance. If a guild doesn't pick themselves up by the third time in a row, then we will start to get serious.

Tiberius Fireskull 06-22-2011 07:56 PM

Err, how about 2 consecutive absences without prior notice? And then 3 absences with clearing from you or another member? After those absences, you would be questioned. At least in my opinion, the fact that the person has cleared it with someone (with a good excuse of course. Not something like "I don't feel like coming.") shows that they at least checked to see if they could come. If someone just ditches, well, that's different entirely.

Captain Del 06-22-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 332363)
Err, how about 2 consecutive absences without prior notice? And then 3 absences with clearing from you or another member? After those absences, you would be questioned. At least in my opinion, the fact that the person has cleared it with someone (with a good excuse of course. Not something like "I don't feel like coming.") shows that they at least checked to see if they could come. If someone just ditches, well, that's different entirely.

That sounds like that could work. We just need to make sure we can keep in good contact with the Guildmasters and Officers (which should not be a problem.)

Dark_Pixie 06-22-2011 08:08 PM

We should keep time zones in mind too. Mine is five hours ahead, I think.

Ofury/ Tom 06-22-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Pixie (Post 332375)
We should keep time zones in mind too. Mine is five hours ahead, I think.

Time zones are integratted into our site. You will see once Del sends out the Pms. So we will keep that in mind :D

andyspins 06-22-2011 09:30 PM

Im glad you guys like my suggestion.

finn 06-22-2011 11:05 PM

del you know that i wanted to start this earlier and mustve found out that i either decided not to do it of was forced do to personal problems... well i was forced :P

i am interested in this and how you will change what you had going against you last time

i am going to wait to see how this turns out but my suggestion to you is to not choose innactive guilds not like my old guild dark past nor choose guilds with 1 foot in the active land and 1 foot out like my current guild fate and fortune

i will wait until we have enough people who i see on everyday to talk to my gm about this

(and no im not saying my guild isnt good we have a good core just need a few more people who can be members and active)

Ofury/ Tom 06-22-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finn (Post 332401)
del you know that i wanted to start this earlier and mustve found out that i either decided not to do it of was forced do to personal problems... well i was forced :P

i am interested in this and how you will change what you had going against you last time

i am going to wait to see how this turns out but my suggestion to you is to not choose innactive guilds not like my old guild dark past nor choose guilds with 1 foot in the active land and 1 foot out like my current guild fate and fortune

i will wait until we have enough people who i see on everyday to talk to my gm about this

(and no im not saying my guild isnt good we have a good core just need a few more people who can be members and active)

This group is solely to bring about friendship and fellowship of guilds. Just to bring them closer together. Right now we are accepting any stage of guild. Activity will be based off of if they show up at the meetings or not. We have a guild in already that has around 40 members. I wouldn't really consider that active since they are just starting. If they show up to the meetings and participate in events then they will stay if they miss 2 I think it will be (still planning that part) then they are removed. Its not based off the guild activity as the activity within the order of the brethren. As far as I understand.

finn 06-22-2011 11:24 PM

i would call us active just not that many people are active we are always on around the sametime but its REALY late eastern time like 12am

Luckie OClover 06-22-2011 11:33 PM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Luckie O'Clover
Name of Prospective Guild: Pixie Pyrates
Approximate Date of Creation; June 4, 2010 (original guild start date; May 21, 2009)
Number of Members: 173

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering? Yes


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
I am 100% for building camaraderie between guilds for the betterment of the game & benefit of its players
I look forward to being helpful in anyway I can
I may not be as outspoken as others, but I am dedicated & offer my service, time & minimal talents xD



Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
Absolutely


Sincerley,

:stpat_06: ~Luckie

The Skirata Clan 06-23-2011 05:49 AM

Your Main Pirate's Name: Darman Skirata
Name of Prospective Guild: The Mandalorians
Approximate Date of Creation: February 2008
Number of Members: 106

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering? Yes


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
You say jump and I'll say "How high." Say the word and it shall be done.

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
I believe in honor, my friend. Of Course.

Captain Del 06-25-2011 02:52 PM

Now that everything is close to being finalized.... we wait.

I don't want to start this up right as I go on vacation, so I'll be opening all this up once I return. In the mean time, stay patient, just keep an eye on everything :buds:

finn 06-26-2011 12:05 AM

i would like my guild to join but i need to talk to the gm so i would wait a day or 2 for me to ask her and i will see if i can...

Ofury/ Tom 06-26-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finn (Post 333114)
i would like my guild to join but i need to talk to the gm so i would wait a day or 2 for me to ask her and i will see if i can...

Unfortunately you'll have to wait a little longer.. Del didn't give anyone permission to allow people to join.. :mybadki6:

Dark_Pixie 06-26-2011 12:44 PM

Sorry to let you all down, but I've been given some extra work to do that's going to keep me busy at odd hours over the next few months. I was really keen to be involved in this from the start, but I didn't see the extra workload coming and I don't want to flit in and out as it won't help your cause. At this point, you really need people who can be there all the time. I shall thus sit on the benches and cheer you on from there. Good luck everyone, and sorry again. I'm really gutted, but I've got to put my work first.

Captain Del 07-04-2011 05:16 PM

Okay Brothers and Sisters, listen up!

We are about nearing the point where we can officially open this puppy up. The official thread I am typing is almost done - however, we have a few more things to accomplish!

First, all guilds need to make sure they are signed up on the Order's site. If you lost the link, please PM me ASAP! There is a thread on that site titled "What do you want to see out of the Order?", and I want you all to post on it so I can get an idea of what you all want to see done.

Also, on the site, I have posted a thread titled "Introductions," where I want all pirates to tell us a little bit about themselves, and kinda introduce themselves to the rest of the community.

And lastly, I am planning a kickoff event for sometime this week, or next, which will introduce us to the Caribbean in a grand, fun way! Unlike events after this, all pirates will be invited, to hopefully open them up to us. So, keep your eyes open!

andyspins 07-04-2011 07:35 PM

Aye! I hope I can get some of my guildies to show up!

Countainer7b 07-08-2011 07:08 AM

if its not to late i still have the conclave legion (regardless of the name being potentially outdated)

Your Main Pirate's Name: Billy
Name of Prospective Guild: Conclave Legion
Approximate Date of Creation: 10-14-10
Number of Members: 7

Are you the Guildmaster of the guild seeking membership within this gathering?
yes

- If you are not the Guildmaster, please provide evidence below which states that your Guildmaster has given you permission to apply for membership. (i.e., chat logs, a sworn statement, etc.)


Should you join this gathering, please explain how you would be willing to aid in building it's foundation.
i am dedicated to this type of organization and am willing to do whatever i can to make this successful

Do you promise to uphold the Pirate Code in these times of establishment, and to work well with your fellow founders to strive toward the ultimate goal of unity?
yes

San Juan Hills 07-15-2011 03:01 AM

dont know if this has been already brought up but i think that a loose and easily changable constitution/bill of rights should be placed over all

just an idea!

Countainer7b 07-15-2011 03:07 AM

the group ended your barking up the wrong tree.

Captain Del 07-15-2011 03:11 AM

Moderators please close this thread. Thanks! :buds:


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