The Grenade Quest
 

This is a question for everyone who has grenades. How long is the quest? I am at the part where you have to make a bomb by searching barrels in Kingshead and Padres De Fuego Fort. After this whats next? Thanks!

- Nickpf

That is the worst part of it. I don't recall anything after it so if there is, it is quick and easy.

As has been said here, you can log out and in or jump servers and go right back to the same barrels and boxes which allows you to stink to the easier, less guarded ones and still complete the quest. Even alone, but you should find it easier to complete on the 'ideal' servers as many of us work on weapons there looking to also help others with that quest.

I helped out two different people this morning finding them on those busy servers.

In addition to what WH said, you might also want to know that after you complete the first quest at Kingshead, you will be sent there a second time to search barrels and crates again (as well as 10 more items from barrels at fort Dundee on Padre del Fuego).

where do you start this quest?

You are offered the chance to start this quest ladder when you reach level 20. It will be in your journal right after you level.

oh thank you! In that case.. I'm almost there :)

Here is the list of what you have to do to unlock the grenade:

Weapon Unlock:Grenade
Visit Jack Sparrow (Faithful Bride - Tortuga)
Visit Ewan. (Find Ewan in a warehouse near the docks in Port Royal)
Recover a sack of charcoal from an EITC LV7+ ship
Recover 10 cups of sulfur from barrels in Kingshead
Recover 10 bucket of saltpeter from crates in Kingshead.
Return to Ewan McCraken
Recover 20 casings from barrels in Kingshead.
Recover 10 fuses from crates in Kingshead.
Recover 10 flints from barrels in Fort Dundee on Padres Del Fuego.
Return to Ewan McCraken
Recover 10 buckets of tar from a storage container. - Plunder tar from any Navy fort.
Return to Ewan McCraken
Sink four EITC ships.
Retrun to Ewan McCraken.
Deliver 12 grenades to Bronze John. - Deliver a package of bombs to Bronze John on Driftwood Island.
Smuggle 16 grenades to Padres Del fuego. - Smuggle a package of bombs to Padres Del Fuego.
Return to Ewan McCraken.
Deliver 24 grenades to Jack Sparrow. - Deliver a supply of bombs to Jack Sparrow in the Faithful Bride on Tortuga.
Finally the end of Grenade quest.

Aye, 'tis a long journey. And am I the only one who was getting that "rabid tree squirrel" message stuck on repeat? For the duration of the quest, that was the only speech I was getting from both Ewan and Jack. Perhaps a bug that needs to be squashed..

The only thing I feel like I got from the greande quest was a chance to level up my other weapons. The grenades themselves are close to useless. You can't throw them at anything that moves, because when they start chasing you, the greandes go right over them.

I might go back and try to level up on them later, but for now, they're hardly worthit for what you have to do to get them.

After playing with every weapon in the game I can safely say the grenades are the most powerful and are simply the best distance weapon against anything that isn't moving fast. Period.

For those who think the staff is best I'd say it is the coolest weapon, but not really the best. Why? Because the time it takes to precharge your spells allows you to take on too many hits against very high level enemy. The grenade is always instant.

My grenades are only just level 17 and I can take out level 33 raiders with ease using them. Note that I need help taking out that same raider using any other weapon combo or I end up using a tonic. With grenades I simply throw one from long distance, then throw a shorter distance one as they approach. I can then throw two more as I move backwards and they are dead without ever getting close to me. Only their throwing daggers touch me and hardly do much damage.

Every weapon in the game has its upside and situations where they don't work as well as other choices. The upside to the grenade is pure damage. If you spend your skill points well you can do more damage in one grenade than with any other weapon and you don't have to be close to them to use it.

Using long volley the grenade can go farther than anything else in game including the flameskull on staff (which goes a heck of a long way).

All it takes is a bit of practice on how to aim and how hard/far to throw them and hardly anything in the game can touch you if you use them right. Don't give up on the most powerfull weapon in the game.

I sort of agree with WizardHawk.

I'm not exactly sure if the grenade is better than the staff, but it is pretty good if you take the time to train it. I'm only level 15 on grenade which seems above average compared to others. But if you master the art of aiming and can hit the enemy most of the time, the grenades can be one of the most powerful weapons in the game. Training at Kingshead is IMO the best way to train the grenades; until level 15 or so, when that group of great level 18's turns grey and doesn't give much rep points anymore.

IMO, I think the grenades are very powerful IF you know how to use them in ways such as good aim (which is harder to aim grenades compared to staff). I think the grenades are extremely hard to train once you hit a certain level... but that's just my opinion.

I personally think the staff is more useful overall. But in different situations, grenades CAN be pretty useful.

Note I didn't say the grenade is the best weapon in the game, only the strongest. And I also said every weapon has its place and use.

As to training grenades, I too spent my share of time on the lower area of kinghead. After that you can move up to the building area in kingshead and attrack everyone around you using blast on your staff to get their attention and then move backwards and throw like you did with the 18 vets. This too will take you higher, but only so far.

The real power of the grenades opened up to me after I started using them more or less as they were intended. I mostly level it now by throwing them at targets on the backside of padre (the shore with high level enemy). I stand in one spot and turn to hit whatever is there. Doing this has made my aim darned good at any distance, even with some that move. I only use the move backward attack on things that do not die before reaching me. The gypsy and genadiers are easy to kill since they never get close to you. I don't even bother using hex eaters on the gypsys large enough to hurt me as they are dead long before they can kill me.

I'll state this again. I've used all of the weapons and have most at or above 20. I once too thought the staff was the end-all weapon. After working more on learning to use them to their potential, the grenade moved way back up my list and there are enemy I only use grenades on (such as those pesky 20+ raiders).

Note that I can seriously harm a 33 raider with my staff, but if I use flameskull I run out of voodoo before I can kill it which makes me have to switch to cutlass. If I use wither it just takes too many of them and he still gets a lot of hits on me. Either way, I often end up using tonics using a staff on them. I NEVER EVER have to use a tonic with the grenades. Which would you use?

Some good info, thanks.

My question, (seeing as I just got the grenade as well), is, how the heck do you aim the thing? I'm having a heck of a time getting it anywhere near where I want it to go. Is it a matter of holding down the ctrl button for a certain amount of time? Or do I just need to play around with it and get a feel for the distance it will fly?

Secondly, as you stated that training in Kingshead worked well for you...do you just lob a grenade at the pack of soldiers in the middle of the field (does it take them all out, or just tick them off?) or do you pick them off one at a time?


Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my so newb like sounding questions :) LOL

If you haen't unlocked Long Volley, you should do that. That's what alows you to throw further and control how far you throw. When you don't have that, it's harder to aim (at least for me). For me when I just click and don't hold it to throw long, it sometimes goes short and high and sometimes goes further. It's wierd how it goes a couple different distances even after one throw.

I've trained my grenades up to level 17 so far, and I'm liking them much more now than I did before. Like Wizardhawk stated, they are great weapons for non moving targets. I trained them on gypsies and grenadiers on the padres beach. They work great on Molusks, Brinescum, and other targets. I also use them sometimes as my first shot on Raiders or Seabeards.

As far as aiming them, the best thing to do is not to use your long volley to it's max. Most of the enemies, I don't go past the 2nd line. I adjust the angle of the screen. After lots of practice and leveling, I now have a feel for how far to throw and at what angle my screen should be at, that I can pretty much hit the target right away.

The height of your view is what determines how far the throw goes. This goes for long volley or standard throw. You need to tilt your head up to get the most distance and tilt it down to shorten it, but of course you need to be careful since you can hurt yourself with your own grenades.

As to training on groups:
When you hit any of the group in kingshead they all light up and turn toward you. Get them to group and walk backwards while you throw your grenades fairly high (look quit a bit up while walking backwards) and they will take the hits. Just practice.

Do know that every enemy had a limited range they can fight in. You should turn around and head the other way if you go any distance from where they start or they will disengage and reset to full health (you lose all the exp you put into it).

Also on aiming, you need to practice on where it lands as it does not go exactly in the direction you think it should. Once you know how far it goes off from where you think it should it isn't hard to make the adjustment.

I'm at level 18 on nades now and my basic grenade does about the same/bit more damage than my maxxed out flameskull. What makes the grenade so much more powerful then is that you can move while using it! The staff makes you frozen while you charge up which leaves you open to taking on massive damage.

wow....I just started with Grenades
(using the basic ones)
only at level 4 now.

but man oh man! these things are great.

I can throw them near or far!
I can hit targets dead on!
Aiming is simple.
I have seen 1000 damage with direct hits!
I can back up, and keep tossing them at an advancing target with ease!
I wear them down with grenades, then finish them off with sword or gun.

I do not understand anyone's complaint about Grenades being a waste of time.
I wouldn't necessarily put them above any other weapon, they all can be fun,
but it definately is an asset to have in certain situations.

Wow, didn't know that part about the view and bomb distance.

Okay, so lemme get this straight. If I put an overhead view on my pirate (by right clicking and moving mouse down) the bomb will go higher and a shorter distance? And if I put my view facing up on my character the bombs will be lower and further? Is that how it works? Or is it the other way around.... Mind explaining a tiny bit more :xrolleyes:. I'm interested in learning the advanced skills :xwink:

Thanks!

You had it backwards, but that's ok. Best thing to do to learn it is to try it out and test it for yourself. As the other poster said it is kind of like cannon in that as you view higher the grenade will be thrown higher in the air and go a farther distance. Just remember that even while just testing in an area with no enemy that looking too far down will cause you take on the damage of the grenade. You can even kill yourself in one hit if your HP isn't high enough.

Once you get to level 4 and get the long volley you will be able to use both the view and volley to combine for very long distance shots. Just know that you can alter either one to get closer to your target. For example, if 50% on the volley meter was just a touch short you can raise your view a bit and do 50% again OR just try the same view and 55% or 60%. The combination allows you to throw very far away. Much farther than any other weapon in the game.

i am done with the quest sorry i forgot to post that am done:snowfight1:

I couldn't disagree more. I think they're very effective if you just take some time to get the feel for them. There's definitely more skill involved than something like the pistol where you can "lock-on", but the grenades have the potential to be very powerful and are loads of fun to toss, if only to see some dirt fireworks go off.

The only issue I've had so far, is that they sometimes seem to suffer from the old Swarm bug, where the weapon will hit but won't take health off the enemy's bar. Hopefully that's just a temporary thing, because other than that, I'm a big fan.

Im at level 19 with grenades and still use the top area of Kingshead to train them (and also the lynching area in the fort) , using the staff to draw as many soldiers to me as I can. Often there are 3 to 5 level 21 to 30 enemies within reach. I have been saving my skill points, except to put one each on stink pot, fire bomb and smoke bomb (which may not be that useful in regular game play, but which are better for earning more experience points while leveling than the regular explosive). In an average run, fully stocked, you can still get 2500 experience points, depending on how many over level 20's there are around. That may change after I hit level 20 with them, but until then, Kingshead is still a good place for leveling, IMHO.

I've become more fond of grenades, as well (especially now that they don't hang in the air everytime I try to throw them), but would have to say that my personal favorite, especially for up close and personal enemies, would have to be the life drain/curse combo on the doll. Not only is life drain (when maxed out) very effective, but you can attune others for healing at the same time. Nothing bothers me more than to board and sink a Colossus, only to discover one of my crewmates didnt make it. I love being able to attune a couple/few crewmates and then drain the life from a soldier at the same time. Woot! Voodoo dolls Rock! But, I have to agree that grenades do have their place in the game (If all the cannons are occupied on the side of the boat we're attacking from, I like to stand there and throw grenades at the incoming ship. ;)).

I enjoy reading your posts, WH- they're very informative and articulate, and I'm not disagreening with anything you have said. I think grenades are a great addition to the arsenal, and the most efficient choice in certain situations. I also think everyone is going to have a different style of play, and that some will have a higher regard for certain weapons, even in the same situation, than another person does, and that those differing styles and preferances can often compliment each other.

Happy plundering! :)

I've had many times where I hit an enemy and either the meter doesn't show the hit or even where the meter doesn't come up (as if you didn't hit them at all) but they still go down in the same number of hits so you are getting credit, just not showing on the meter.

I do know if you score a direct hit everything works right. If you are close, but miss a bit short you have a chance at scoring a hit, but not seeing it on the meter, and if you are a bit long you have a chance of it showing you got a hit (negative number rolls up, you see the fire on them etc.) but not actually getitng credit for it. Yes, you can see the hit and not get it, but it does seem for me to be worse with even a short distance long of the target. I tend to try to aim right on or a bit short because of it and do quite well.

Plunderin Mom
You go ahead and post your views and your experience no matter how different they are. There is no right or wrong opinion or style in this game (nor any other for that matter) and the more views the more knowledge gets passed to others.

I can say that one of the main reasons I don't use kingshead anymore is I got tired of driving there lol. I guess it is just easier to quickly run to the backside of padre, not to mention you just can't beat having a blacksmith and gun shop right there for quick refills.

As for fighting with groups, sure I think the doll is a great choice and one I use often myself for the very reasons you mentioned. Really depends on the level of the people you are with and level(s) of the enemy in the fight, but there are times where using staff or grenade to quickly remove larger groups helps as much as healing and taking on 2-4 enemy at a time. I think I change up how I approach things often as I may be working a different weapon or just get too bored doing just the same thing the same way all the time.

You do bring up another point that isn't stated enough. It is a good idea with all weapons to have at least one weak attack to help you level that weapon faster, but you almost MUST have it with grenades. I have the basic grenade maxed at 5 dots for getting out of trouble fast and while I do have 2 dots in stink and fire, I only have one in smoke and use those three to level on weak enemy combos. Why do you need a weaker skill? Can't you just kill more faster with the power ones and end up the same? Not in my experience. I get about 3-4 times as much exp for the same enemy and do not use all that much more time.

Thanks for all the additional input - I won't give up on the grenades. Now that I'm level 31, and most of my weapons are level 17-25, I'll try working on the greandes and really fine tune my aim. It's good to know that it's worth spending the time on. And since I don't have much to do but level everything til the Boss Battle gets fixed, maybe it'll keep me interested for a while. If they take much longer fixing the battle (and quests to follow it), I may rethink my subscription. Leveling up makes you feel like you've accomplished something, but I'd like to also be progressing in the game.