Does Disney put effort into the game?
 

What do you think? are they crazy lazy, just really bad at managing POTCO, or something else? i just sent they an e-mail to step it up unless they want tons of player leaving the game.

Truthfully games like WoW, Minecraft, POTBS, LOTRO, and many many others are WAy better than POTCO

Uhh, wait a minute. I don't see the "I think that they are doing a pretty good job with what they have." option. Are you implying that everyone would think they are lazy or bad? If so, then I would like you to look at what we have. Sure, we don't have everything, but I think for what little money they are given, they are doing quite well. Sure, we don't have The Kraken, but we have hundreds of weapons, clothing items, socialization, and tons more! They are doing a pretty good job if you ask me. I am quite happy.

As for the email you sent them, that's pretty mean. Put yourself in your position, with thousands of players yelling at you to do ten billion things at one time. Its not easy, so don't make it harder on them. And to clarify, it is not DISNEY. Maybe we should stop saying that, because I will admit that even I say it, but Disney has nothing to do with what they are doing. Disney just owns them and gives them (very little) money to work with.

I for one, vote none of the above.

IMO, they are NOT lazy. There have been polls and debates about this time after time. Disney, as big of a company as they are, do NOT want to lose fans of any type. It's harder to make a game then you think, and I've had to say this time over time again. If I gave you an average group of developers, maybe 20 or so, I'd like to see you make a game as vast as potco in 4 years. No one seems to understand this these days, and people are making a big deal out of it. People should stop complaining and let them do their thing. If you don't want to wait, then you can go play another game. That's fine with me.

Just my two-cents.

Man, I take back my "NO" vote, I should have picked "OTHER"
Remember guys, DISNEY IS NOT A MMO PUBLISHER, they don't have the
skills like minecraft, WoW, ect. THEY DO T.V. SHOWS.. They will always mainly choose T.V. shows and there themeparks, REMEMBER, THIS GAME WAS TO LAUNCH ONE OF THE Pirates Of The Carribean Movies!

*Just my 2,000 gold coins"

Sheesh, some people that are complaining need to have heard what it was like back in '07 or '08. There were no weapons other than the ones you got from questing! No Peddlers.... no Raven's Cove, no fishing, no CD, no potions. When you master, you can still occupy yourself by trying to loot for weapons. Back then, once you mastered, that was it. They have done a terrific job adding SO many new stuff. And they are adding them at a fast pace, much faster than 2/3 years ago! Of course they put effort into the game!

Hmm... well now that i know what you guys are saying, maybe i should think a bit more about it...


Well i was thinking about ravens cove when i sent this. El patrons mine had about 15 ghosts, and one of the smallest cave on the Caribbean. The rage ghosts and the cave of lost souls were a good idea. The quest was awesome, but it was short, taking most pirates 2 hours to finish. i felt they could do a much better job, but they aren't.

But if they took longer, then they would have had more people yelling at them to release updates faster. They need to balance it out. They need to take long enough on updates so that they can be good and with as few bugs as possible, but they need to be released fast enough that they don't have players get upset and impatient. Its very hard for them.

They are doing a bad job at "maging".

They could do a lot better if all sides of The Disney Machine worked and put All their efforts. I voted NO, simply because they have no excuse for the poor growth of this game or others like VMK. They are a multi-million dollar company. Money makes Money. Invest more in these games and they will attract more money.

If you said a bad job, then think about this; could you make a MMORPG as successful and complicated as this? Sure they can be lazy because they have the ability to put stuff out but still, it takes great skill to do this.

Sure... If I had the money, the skill, and.... Wait! If I was in charge of this particular project and the resources that Disney has Then Yes! I could totally make a MMORPG at least 10x Better! This is Disney you are talking about. The quality of a Disney product is expected to be nothing but the best!

If I go to Disneyland or if I watch a Disney/Pixar movie I expect my experience to be amazing and without match. That's what makes Disney great. The should strive for perfection in every aspect. They cannot have excuses. Money cannot be an issue when you are Disney. They are not respecting the brands that they represent.

TSC, let me ask you something. Put yourself in the place of Disney. Now, you are a big company, and you like to make lots of money, correct? Now, you said that money makes money. That is true, and I will agree with that. But, how many things does Disney own, and how many things do they put money into? If I listed it all, the mods would probably accuse me of spamming the thread, as it would be a loooooong list. Out of those, POTCO is just one, little thing. One tiny drop in the ocean of their business. Now, if putting money into something really does get money out of it, then what are you going to put money into? You have only so much money, so you cant give each company a whole ton of money. So you decide to invest money into what you think will be successful. I don't know too much about what Disney does. Heck, I know almost nothing, but if I were to take a few guesses, I would say that they put most of their money into their parks, movies, and TV shows. Why? Because those are the best ways to make money! They give the most money back. Now, I love POTCO, but honestly, if I were them, I wouldn't put a massive amount of money into it, because I would guess that if you gave $1 billion to making a movie, it would make more money than giving $1 billion to POTCO.

I think I went off track a bit, but my point is that just because Disney has money, doesn't mean POTCO does. They don't have a massive amount of money to work with, and I think that they are doing a great job with what they have.

Just my... well, that may have been a bit more than two cents...

I agree with what most people are already saying THEY ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB with what they have, I mean they even update every holiday! And I for one dont think they are going to add the Kraken or Davy Jones. I think that if they do add a villian it would be Blackbeard! (It seems a little late to add Davy and his pet.)

That is part of my point DF. POTCO is a branch of the POTC Franchise. This is not Toontown or Penguins. This is Pirates of The Caribbean Online. This is an extension of the movies and the rides. This should be the Disney's Crown Jewel of their gaming division. Simply because of what it stands for.

What I am saying is that POTCO should get more money input to elevate this game to what it should be. Granted they are doing great with what they get (assuming that is a little slice of that cash flow that Disney has).

Disney is doing a bad job simply because they are failing to see what POTCO represents.

I do see what you are saying TSC. Honestly, there is no yes or no answer to this little debate. They could decide to put in money, and see if it really does make the game amazing. It may be a gamble, but perhaps it would pay off. Or they can put money into what they KNOW will make them money, and then of course get money from it. It all depends on their style of business running. Perhaps they do have the money to give to see if POTCO could be great, but they may decide not to risk losing it.

Back on track, it seems that we all do agree that with what they have, POTCO is doing a good job. Whether or not Disney will give them more money to make it even better, is completely different.

Agreed!

There is nothing that we (the players) can do or say that will change what Disney does with this. I just sit tight, keep my hands and feet inside the vehicle, take no flash photographies, and enjoy their ride.

Alright well the question of whether D can help them or not is finished.

Do you think they could do better with the resources they have?

Personally, I have no complaints. Well, any major ones, anyways. Things like the LB being down & deletion of servers are a mite upsetting. But, for my money, I am very happy with POTCO. Never got into other Disney games, so I can't speak about them. It is difficult for me to fathom the huge task of maintaining POTCO, and to keep adding updates. Test was invented for a good reason. And when things do go awary, Disney tries its hardest to fix & make pirates happy. Can't make all the ppl happy all the time, but the Mouse attempts to satisfy. Where else can you enjoy entertainment for under 10 bucks a month to have the game at your beck & call 24/7? Maybe there are other games, but my money is on POTCO...

I voted other because when you least expect it, an update comes out. So they come out with updates when the big D thinks it needs it. I mean look at last year:

~ Raven's Cove

~ Alot of weapons

Those are some pretty good updates. Sure they havent been up to scratch this year, with the resets and all...

I chose other because they are doing a fine job. And your choices don't match. Both are implying they are lazy/bad at their job. "Yes, they need to step it up" and "No, they are doing a bad job at [managing]* the game" are the same.

They have done fine, greatly. In the years i've played POTCO i have found both fun and enjoyment in the game, something you dont see in most MMO
But, they have had the test for almost a month, i just want it to go live that way i can do privaterring.
Sure they havent fully given us all the promised features they said they would YET, such as the kraken, new boats etc. But they work hard, you should be satisfied in in that instead of complaining. Please, Disney works hard. The only mistake i have EVER seen is when the closed Vmk...
Again, they have done a wonderful job.

If this was a real issue, then someone else would have told me. Sure, maybe i could have added more choices but then you couldn't have said so.


Anyways, i see what your guys are saying. maybe i was a but overreacting?

Depends how you view this.
Are they lazy?

Yes Because... for the company they are and for the business that Disney is they are lazy because they can do way better if more work was put to action with more technological resources they can get...

No they are not lazy because because POTCO staff might or is not provided with enough resources by Disney as a whole. POTCO is just a minor addition to Disney from a business point of view since they own TV channels and film production...

Players intend to blame Disney a lot because they see it as a gaming company. The POTCO staff is probably a small portion of Disney workers and they are doing the best they can with what they are provided. Disney could give more but since POTCO is not one of their main concerns they just can't spent money with it making it better.

Its depending on how you see this:
This game has alot of stuff other games dont have.

A) The game is set in the 1600-1700's so theor choices are limited.
B) Come on you guys, as Davy said, this is one of the minor parts of Disney.
C) If you think about it, the Invasions are/were a great addition because it showed that the Big D is paying attention to the came.

Well Disney owns alot of these game like Club penguin, POTCO,etc. They don't entirely put there true heart in it because all the other game need tamed. But last I check they had a specific team for the game. They must be lazy then.

THEY ARE DOING VERY WELL!!! I mean come on you cant update a game every week. And I hear when this game first started it was the bare minimum. (I read all the release notes) And I think they might add Blackbeard from the new movie instead of Davy Jones. That would make alot more sense.

It would make more sense to add Blackbeard instead of Davy because:

~Davy is dead! Not DF

~Blackbeard is in the new movie, gets hype for the new one, which is why I have been hearing is why POTCO came out in the first place.

I believe Del said: 'Overall, the game needs more of piratic feel, and less of a superman feel' Or something along those lines. Blackbeard is NOT a hero...

I can't get into mastering my pirate because I'm the kind of person who needs quests in order to stay interested. My level 36 pirate is done with Pearl and Raven's Cove, and now I feel like I have nothing for her to do. They need another BIG story quest that opens up after the completion of Raven's Cove or level 40 or something like that.

seriously they need to put out more updates that we care about like ship customization, more bosses like jolly roger and davy jones etc,and ship customization! um its pirates online!
Well that was my other choice.

I think i owe POTCO an apology!

I saw that they slightly increased enemy aggression, just like i thought they should.

Extra rum for POTCO staff! woot!

See they are listening to fans!

Actually, they DO get alot of money. If everyone bought a year membership. thats $76 x 1,000,000. Now think how much money that is. I think thats enough money at least keep some servers up. Now think about this, FreeRealms, a SOE ( sony online entertaiment ) game has about 40+ people working there making updates. For a LIFE TIME membership, you pay $35. if everyone bought a lifetime membership, that would be $35 x 1,000,000. not nearly as much, and they have more people working on it, so they would get paid less. But they already have over 40 minigames, lets you be wizards, ninjas, miners, ect. ANd they have trading. yes, TRADING!!!! That shows that if POTCO worked hard enough, we could have SOTL's, Trading, new weapon types, ect. by now.

That shows you about how hard potco works for their pay.

Um.... they just came out with two updates in.... two days? (mardi gras and infamy) I wouldnt consider them lazy.

Sidenote:
Remember, people this game is different. The fighting isnt: Your turn, my turn, your turn, my turn, etc. This game isnt formal stuff, its more like 'ATTACK!' at the same time. Since this game is more like this, they cant make any upgrades on new stuff to use (ammo). This is just me bumbling out stuff that might possibly make sense.


~Stealth

but they already had those done with. they just had to put 'em on live. St. Patricks day clothes are already made. they just gottta put 'em on live. Titanic95594 was probably talking about creating stuff. ( aka the Calling All Testers! articles ) creating before it hits test. They could put aprils clothes out already. its just a matter of clicking and updating.
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This is why i don't like to post on these forums much cause its filled with arguements about is Disney doing a good job. I think this game is amazing its everything i could ask for i see every update as frosting on the cake. I love this game i don't play many other games right now because this is all i could ask for in a game. Ik what kind of effort and programming and design and artistic abillities you have to have to create a game like this for thousands of players. Unless any of you are planning on making your own mmorpg then please stop trying to put down Disney.
Think of it this way. If your parents and teachers always told you your homework and classwork was horrible and you didn't do it fast enough or it was always wrong. Wouldn't you get discouraged in trying to do well? I know i would. I'm sure some of the Disney Staff probably reads these and this is all they see.. you guys bashing them down. That makes them inspiried to work harder and do more. I think this poll should most defintely have a I LOVE THIS GAME COLOUM cause thats what i would pick.

What about you?





PS
I play the following games and Disney's Pirates Online is still my top.
Free Realms
Star Wars the Clone Wars Adventures Beta Testing (wrong age group for me)
Lord of the Rings Online
Runescape (not fun)
Planning on playing SWTOR (might be up there with Pirates no released yet)
Age of Empires III

All of those are online games.

Agreed. Download Panda3D and make a simple controllable stickman walking, please. You can't, can you? Panda3D is stupidly complicated, then they have little money to hire experienced people to make much new content (even though they are doing pretty well). Panda3D is a TERRIBLE engine, and what they've done with it is remarkable by comparison.

I also think it's funny how a lot of people (not calling you out, Blaster, just making a point) think that they can do better than trained, hired people who do this full time and have a degree and a portfolio to show for it. Just sayin'. :\

When I first saw this poll I was expecting an option specifying they are doing a good job.

Davy is right and I 100% agree POTCO are doing the best they can as fast as they can despite the shortage of money given to them by Disney. They have come a long way since its release.

I also vote none of the above.

Agreed... However we have no way of knowing if they have a good-sized team of developers or if they get limited funding.